China - never a dull moment!

[seanpodge]

That Chongqing train looks a lot like the Singapore LRT gray line trains to me.

Going to Shanghai next week. Anyone can recommend a rooftop bar/restaurant that's reasonably priced along the river/Bund area?

 

[Cruiser Elite]

Vue at Hyatt on the Bund - was regularly on my circuit of Shanghai’s finer establishments to visit - love this bar

Let me check with the boys on the ground there to see if still open

 

[Cruiser Elite]

May Day Holiday fast approaching in China - 200 million trips planned = 1 in 7 Chinese heading on holidays.

 

[Cruiser Elite]

Vue at Hyatt on the Bund - was regularly on my circuit of Shanghai’s finer establishments to visit - love this bar

Let me check with the boys on the ground there to see if still open

Yep Vue is open - have fun

 

[seanpodge]

Thanks, CE.

 

[Cruiser Elite]

I would question to what degree this report would STAND UP to any true interrogation!

 

[mushez]

So with someone I know going through quarantine currently getting back to China & my plans to do what is necessary to get back to China myself in March 2022 - I started to look out for others who have elected to post about their quarantine experiences in China to learn and start to plan my survival guide to China Quarantine.

It is currently listed as 1 of 3 options:
14 + 7 days
14 + 14 days
14 + 7 + 7 days

First 14 days - is what we all know as solid hotel quarantine - put into a hotel room and cannot leave for 14 days.

The +7 or +14 days is on top, where you can go to your home, or another hotel - or remain in the same quarantine hotel if you don't have a suitable option to self isolate at home or another hotel. It is basically home isolation, which you can only go out to do the 2 virus tests you are required to do per week, but freedom to do it at home or a different hotel of your choice if the location is acceptable to officials. Otherwise default is another 7-14 days in quarantine hotel.

Shanghai is the only current location with 14 + 7 days, which means you are out, but cannot travel anywhere else in China until day 29 - otherwise the other provinces will make you start quarantine again when you cross over into them if you dare post day 22 from Shanghai.

The lottery about food is the one thing that stumps me the most - it is down to each hotel. And you have no say in which hotel you get to go. Most in Shanghai seem to prohibit any fresh food to be delivered to you - that any food items to be delivered to you in hotel quarantine must be commercially packaged and must have a use by date on it that is more than 30 days in the future when it is delivered. It is a rare gem of a hotel that you can order in food - hence most are stuck with any food they take with them and what the hotel serve up.

I am told by law they cannot charge you more than 100 RMB per day to supply/serve you food - so they charge 50-100 RMB per day for the 3 basic Chinese meals they supply.

I think I am looking at my baggage allowance and hauling in what I need to eat to survive the first 21 days!

While there are a few videos - this one is probably the most interesting of an Aussie flying SYD-CAN and going through quarantine in Guangzhou - Blondie in China

 

[hummel]

Just keep in mind Blondie is definitely pro-China so you generally won't hear anything bad on her channel. Not knocking her but just something to keep in mind.

For reference, here in Vietnam, they're talking about 7 days quarantine for fully vaccinate people coming in. But as with this country.. just in the planning stages at this stage.

 

[Cruiser Elite]

For reference, here in Vietnam, they're talking about 7 days quarantine for fully vaccinate people coming in.

Which vaccines approved H? TBMK China still have not added AZ to approved list.

 

[auriga]

So with someone I know going through quarantine currently getting back to China & my plans to do what is necessary to get back to China myself in March 2022 - I started to look out for others who have elected to post about their quarantine experiences in China to learn and start to plan my survival guide to China Quarantine.
....

I've heard of people doing the quarantine in Macau

 

[mushez]

I've heard of people doing the quarantine in Macau

Do you have more information about the logistics of how they are doing that?

Like - what flights are being taken to get to Macau to start with? Then what costs/quarantine is like in Macau? Then you can simply cross the border into China without them freaking out about a foreign looking person walking over the boarder without shoving you into quarantine?

 

[auriga]

Do you have more information about the logistics of how they are doing that?

Like - what flights are being taken to get to Macau to start with? Then what costs/quarantine is like in Macau? Then you can simply cross the border into China without them freaking out about a foreign looking person walking over the boarder without shoving you into quarantine?

sorry I do not have any details.
Just something you can look into, to see if it is workable.

 

[mushez]

sorry I do not have any details.
Just something you can look into, to see if it is workable.

My quick looking gets:

No foreign person can travel to Macau currently unless you are a Macau Citizen or resident - or are from Mainland China, Hong Kong, or Taiwan.

All travelers require a 14-21 quarantine and nothing less than 14 days from Hong Kong or Mainland China, with all other locations are required to do 21 days quarantine.

Only flights to Macau seem to be exclusive to Mainland China or Taiwan - creating the other drama of how to transit to get there.

21 days in Shanghai or 21 days in Macau is 21 days in my book. Doing quaraintine in China passes the pub test for me than trying to get tricky with any shakey travel bubbles in place - as tempting as better internet might be in Macau. I also have a better support network in Shanghai to help me.

 

[mushez]

With travel freeing up - who is starting to eye up trips to China now so we can start to see more posts here of the weird and wacky ventures in China?

Any tips/apps to order food and pay via a western credit card when in China doing hotel quarantine and are able to order in food?

I am all steam ahead to travel early March 2022 and stay if I can get a 180 day visa until the end of June/early July. Will be putting my Visa application together over November and send that into the visa office December 1st.

 

[Mitch_W]

I am looking at business trip in March to the CFF in Guangzhou & via Hong Kong first.
Not sure what the restrictions will be by then. Certainly wont go if I have to do quarantine.

 

[Cruiser Elite]

You are going to do quarantine in China? You are much gamer than I am.

Are you a FTer? If YES I can invite you into a Chinese FT group in WeChat where the boys can answer all your Qs.

 

[mushez]

Yes - will do the 28 days quarantine and add that to the belt. Will message you.

 

[Cruiser Elite]

Oh this would be tough going - Chinese City Begins 28+28 Day Quarantine Rule

 

[woodyren]

Oh this would be tough going - Chinese City Begins 28+28 Day Quarantine Rule

We we just discussing this earlier today.

Prior to Covid I was a regular visitor to China and Shenyang in particular. My wife was born there and still has an apartment, family and many friends in the city.

I doubt we will be able to visit anytime in the foreseeable future as chasing covid zero can only be done with continued isolation.

 

[Cruiser Elite]

Covid spot fires everywhere in China right now and they still pursuing ZERO policy - Xi'an Locks Down to Combat Growing Outbreak