[Confirmed] QF removing [cheap] ASAs [from web booking engine Jun 26] was 10April

[legalistic]

re: [Confirmed] QF removing [cheap] ASAs [from web booking engine Jun 26-was]10April

It would never have been $30, your memory is inaccurate.

Apologies I should learn to never use ~ symbol, always bloody unreliable; to be exact it was $39.26

Regardless we're looking at a tax increase of 5.7982679 times!!

Anyone found any of their usual JASA's without attached hyperinflation?

 

[lovestotravel]

re: [Confirmed] QF removing [cheap] ASAs [from web booking engine Jun 26-was]10April

Something has changed already for JASA & FASA MEL or SYD to/from LAX

Yesterday could find JASA/FASA MEL-LAX-MEL
Today NONE

Of course this could be everyone just snapped up anything that was there this afternoon/tonight

Lots (relatively) of classic J and F award seats though

There are quite a few small errors coming up when I search though

EG: When looking at the MONTH view of classic award seats, hovering over dates, lots of flights are coming up with Flight time as "Null" and stops as "-1"

So there are definitely changes happening/or the website it just playing up..... Although never seen these errors before

 

[Princess Fiona]

re: [Confirmed] QF removing [cheap] ASAs [from web booking engine Jun 26-was]10April

Hey All,

I just tried to book a JASA from BNE to PER and Qantas wanted $227.64 + 36,000 points!!!

A couple of months back I swear it was for $30~ + 36,000 points for the same JASA (same flight number too)...

what's going on?!

I've personally never seen JASA's to PER at $30 co-pay.
Last year I paid ~$250 rtn (IIRC) and the booking I will make tonight is ~$480 rtn
The co-pay amounts for ASA's have been increasing lately but I don't think it's anything to do with the reported "enhancement" being introduced tomorrow

 

[lovestotravel]

re: [Confirmed] QF removing [cheap] ASAs [from web booking engine Jun 26-was]10April

Oh I have booked in a MEL-SYD-ASP-SYD-MEL JASA for next early next year to ensure I retain Platinum for calendar year 2015

Was about $1.50 cheaper than when I booked one a few months ago

 

[Alanslegal]

re: [Confirmed] QF removing [cheap] ASAs [from web booking engine Jun 26-was]10April

I agree with simongr that this comes down to ethics.

......

So there is your answer I think, media would not act on this, just like it would be 'insider trading' to be told in advance about Company X buying Company Y and then going out to buy or sell shares based on that knowledge.

'Insider trading' is enshrined within legislation with penalties that range from fines/restitution, disqualification from certain positions and to imprisonment. The relationship between QF and media outlets is contractual, so I would take that if a media person took advantage of things that s/he knew from the changes, depending on the agreement I guess either cancellation of tickets through to potential loss of employment eg. if QF advised the person's employer. Joe Average will have no claim against QF or the media persons.

 

[legalistic]

re: [Confirmed] QF removing [cheap] ASAs [from web booking engine Jun 26-was]10April

I've personally never seen JASA's to PER at $30 co-pay.
Last year I paid ~$250 rtn (IIRC) and the booking I will make tonight is ~$480 rtn
The co-pay amounts for ASA's have been increasing lately but I don't think it's anything to do with the reported "enhancement" being introduced tomorrow

Oops, very sorry everyone who I misled, I realised that was a domestic leg that I booked and never got SC for, it was an award booking.

Shame on me! I should check the international JASAs...

 

[Hvr]

re: [Confirmed] QF removing [cheap] ASAs [from web booking engine Jun 26-was]10April

'Insider trading' is enshrined within legislation with penalties that range from fines/restitution, disqualification from certain positions and to imprisonment. The relationship between QF and media outlets is contractual, so I would take that if a media person took advantage of things that s/he knew from the changes, depending on the agreement I guess either cancellation of tickets through to potential loss of employment eg. if QF advised the person's employer. Joe Average will have no claim against QF or the media persons.

I suggest more like symbiotic. For it to be contractual there would have to be consideration between the parties.

 

[JohnK]

re: [Confirmed] QF removing [cheap] ASAs [from web booking engine Jun 26-was]10April

Thank you to the OP for providing further information. Unfortunately though some of the people who frequent AFF these days do not deserve any useful information. I hope you stick around.

If 747800intercon is correct then.....Yes that's right, let's make it as hard as possible for people to book flights with us...

QF logic

So what is the issue? A few people on AFF will be slightly inconvenienced and have to spend a few extra dollars to get status? Big deal?

In the past 6-7 years I have seen "enhancements" that have caused a lot more damage than this "enhancement" if it ends up being as bad as some people think.

You would think the sky was falling. Now if a Oneworld award increased to 160,000 QFF points that would be a big deal.

 

[RooFlyer]

re: [Confirmed] QF removing [cheap] ASAs [from web booking engine Jun 26-was]10April

'Insider trading' is enshrined within legislation with penalties that range from fines/restitution, disqualification from certain positions and to imprisonment. The relationship between QF and media outlets is contractual, so I would take that if a media person took advantage of things that s/he knew from the changes, depending on the agreement I guess either cancellation of tickets through to potential loss of employment eg. if QF advised the person's employer. Joe Average will have no claim against QF or the media persons.

Trying hard to make sense of this.

WRT 'insider trading' - the phrases and wording you are referring to are in respect to the provisions of the Corporations Law, yes? Can't see relevance here. Post you quote I think was pretty obviously referring to the use of 'insider trading' in the colloquial sense - using information gained while in a privileged position for personal gain. Not the particular circumstances covered by the Corps Law.

How on earth is there a 'contract' between the media and Qantas, even if used in the colloquial sense? Even if there was, who enters into the contract on behalf of 'the media'???

Qantas does stuff, media report on it, in various ways, ranging from ignorant to informed; thoughtful to mindless; constructive to destructive. If a private briefing, Qantas can 'embargo' certain press releases and most media will respect that - if they don't, they won't get invited back to a Qantas briefing.

Most media (now using media in a broad sense) are bound by a code of ethics, but people like bloggers mostly aren't. A breach of ethics is between the media person and his/her employer and possibly the Press Council. I don't think 'cancellation of tickets' will come into it.

 

[robs12]

re: [Confirmed] QF removing [cheap] ASAs [from web booking engine Jun 26-was]10April

End of year sale anyone? Might there be some incentive to cause panic and get all those FF points converted into booked bums on seats before year end?

Just a thought....

 

[power71]

re: [Confirmed] QF removing [cheap] ASAs [from web booking engine Jun 26-was]10April

I agree

I think the announcement will be an international sale with some Fantastic pricing....

End of year sale anyone? Might there be some incentive to cause panic and get all those FF points converted into booked bums on seats before year end?

Just a thought....

 

[Isochronous]

re: [Confirmed] QF removing [cheap] ASAs [from web booking engine Jun 26-was]10April

I agree

I think the announcement will be an international sale with some Fantastic pricing....

Now that would be a welcome thing!

 

[vitagen]

re: [Confirmed] QF removing [cheap] ASAs [from web booking engine Jun 26-was]10April

Wow missed out on what's happening.

 

[moa999]

re: [Confirmed] QF removing [cheap] ASAs [from web booking engine Jun 26-was]10April

Seeing some very weird behavior next year for JASAs, where if I change the return date, the minimum fare for the outbound changes (substantially) for SYD-HKG returns.

 

[lovestotravel]

re: [Confirmed] QF removing [cheap] ASAs [from web booking engine Jun 26-was]10April

Seeing some very weird behavior next year for JASAs, where if I change the return date, the minimum fare for the outbound changes (substantially) for SYD-HKG returns.

Agreed!

 

[whatmeworry]

re: [Confirmed] QF removing [cheap] ASAs [from web booking engine Jun 26-was]10April

Seeing some very weird behavior next year for JASAs, where if I change the return date, the minimum fare for the outbound changes (substantially) for SYD-HKG returns.

I have seen that last year. Might be a bug in the system? Who knows? Maybe better off booking 2 one way JASA if cheaper.

 

[legroom]

re: [Confirmed] QF removing [cheap] ASAs [from web booking engine Jun 26-was]10April

I cant see how a process that makes JASAs more expensive AND more difficult to book are in the interests of QF pax, and thus QF.

If that turns out to be the case, very, very disappointed in QF.

1) QF pax interests are not the same as QF's interests e.g. we want cheap fares, QF does not; We want JASA at classic rates, QF may not want the same etc....

2) By making JASA more expensive, QF would be able to devalue its liability i.e. it could offer same or fewer JASA seats for a higher number of points per seat.

I'd suggest by jacking up co-payment and required points for JASA, QF could do more damage to what we know (and love) than call-centre booking time +/- booking fees.

So, if the prediction is correct, I agree it is not in "the interests of QF pax" but not necessarily "not in the interests of QF".

We are in an uneven game here where only one party determines the value of the "currency" i.e. QFF points.

 

[vitagen]

re: [Confirmed] QF removing [cheap] ASAs [from web booking engine Jun 26-was]10April

Maybe they following the EK model for rewards flights. (FLEX VS SAVER). wonder if they will do confirmed upgrades too.

 

[whatmeworry]

re: [Confirmed] QF removing [cheap] ASAs [from web booking engine Jun 26-was]10April

Perhaps QF is not getting rid of ASA's but rather enhancing them?

 

[Must...Fly!]

re: [Confirmed] QF removing [cheap] ASAs [from web booking engine Jun 26-was]10April

New booking engine slowly going up

Cheap JASA appear gone. In so far as ASA all together seems gone, just points+pay tired directly to revenue tickets irrespective of award availability.