Coronavirus (COVID-19) Panic Buying?

[lovetravellingoz]

Indeed, I get the impression Aussies are too busy emptying supermarket shelves to go on holiday!
cheers skip

Not at the supermarkets I frequent. And at Costco, when don't shoppers here have full trollies?

I think it is more that hand sanitiser has a run on.

 

[drron]

As that link shows, N95 masks can be reused and remain effective.

If bunkered down - using a mask for a 10 minute run inside a supermarket once or twice a week - won't require too many masks. Or for the two minutes it takes to pick up a pizza or Chinese meal.
Cheers,
Renato

Sorry Renato an N95 mask can filter down to a particle size of 0.3 microns 97% of the time.human corona viruses come in at 0.1-0.2 microns.
"CDC does advise health care workers working with SARS patients to wear a special mask called an N-95 respirator. But even these masks offer limited protection from coronaviruses. The name of the mask says it all. The “95” means the mask, if properly fitted—and that “fit factor” presents a big if—can filter out particles down to 0.3 microns 95 percent of the time. (A human hair is roughly 100 microns in diameter.) Human coronaviruses measure between 0.1 and 0.2 microns, which is one to two times below the cutoff. "

Do Surgical Masks Stop the Coronavirus?

Previous coronavirus outbreaks give us a strong hint.

slate.com

 

[cove]

Ok we may as well use a bra cup...….Everything is pretty useless for such a virus.
I am not racing to get masks nor toilet paper.
Instead I went to the pharmac_ to get an extra month of our prescription medication just in case we get interned somewhere.

 

[Renato1]

Sorry Renato an N95 mask can filter down to a particle size of 0.3 microns 97% of the time.human corona viruses come in at 0.1-0.2 microns.
"CDC does advise health care workers working with SARS patients to wear a special mask called an N-95 respirator. But even these masks offer limited protection from coronaviruses. The name of the mask says it all. The “95” means the mask, if properly fitted—and that “fit factor” presents a big if—can filter out particles down to 0.3 microns 95 percent of the time. (A human hair is roughly 100 microns in diameter.) Human coronaviruses measure between 0.1 and 0.2 microns, which is one to two times below the cutoff. "

Do Surgical Masks Stop the Coronavirus?

Previous coronavirus outbreaks give us a strong hint.

slate.com

Thanks Dr Ron,
Good article - but notice how it is ambivalent.

The virus is small and can pass through an N95 mask, but the globules of sneeze it sits on might not.

Note the part where it says,
"The University of Cincinnati’s Sergey Grinshpun has studied N-95 respirators and says it all comes down to “collection efficiency.” N-95s made by different manufacturers have different collection efficiencies below the 0.3 cutoff. In other words, one company’s mask, if properly fitted, might filter out 92 percent of coronaviruses, while another might catch only 50 percent. "

That means that the N95 masks work doesn't it?

Even a poor mask working at only 50%, has to be better than the 0% protection from wearing no mask.

Regards,
Renato

 

[KitKat]

In the community the use of N95 masks diverts the masks from where it provides the greatest benefit......... protecting health care workers on the frontline even if it may not be perfect for them too!

 

[Lynda2475]

So I went to my local Coles this morning they had zero toilet paper, no tissues, no dry pasta, no cottonbuds, no liquid soap hand wash, no antibacterial laundry rinse. Feminine hygeine products and nappies were really low. People are nuts.

Got an email from coles re limit of 4 packs of toilet paper, m think the limit shohld be 1 packet, after all 20 rolls is a 4 month supply, no one needs 80 rolls a week.

 

[Denali]

Seems my husbands hoarding preference is antibacterial cleaining wipes - I just found 8 large packets of them.

 

[pauly7]

So I went to my local Coles this morning they had zero toilet paper, no tissues, no dry pasta, no cottonbuds, no liquid soap hand wash, no antibacterial laundry rinse. Feminine hygeine products and nappies were really low. People are nuts.

People are scared.

There has been a vacuum of a calm, repetitive and consistent messaging from our government on this, at all levels they should be saying the same thing, over and over to calm people down. Instead we are getting mixed messaging and unnecessary details that confuse people.

The masses don’t need to know the intricacies of how this is unfolding. They just need to know the basics of personal hygiene. Some government comms in other countries are great. Simple and repetitive. Some governments have even recorded pop songs on this and are pushing them out on social media.

Unfortunately our leaders are not doing this.

 

[cove]

My SIL was asked by our London flat cleaners why Australians were stockpiling toilet rolls. Clearly it has made it into London news.

 

[pauly7]

My SIL was asked by our London flat cleaners why Australians were stockpiling toilet rolls. Clearly it has made it into London news.

London supermarkets are also running out of TP.

 

[get me outta here]

What can we do to stop living in fear:

 

[juddles]

Extraordinarily busy at my local Dan Murphys this morning pre-lunch - usually a modest amount of people at that hour on a Saturday. And completely out of stock of Veuve Clicquot - which is astonishing! This is an essential in Noosa just like toilet paper is to the rest of the world

 

[Denali]

Extraordinarily busy at my local Dan Murphys this morning pre-lunch - usually a modest amount of people at that hour on a Saturday. And completely out of stock of Veuve Clicquot - which is astonishing! This is an essential in Noosa just like toilet paper is to the rest of the world

It's all the cancelled F flights and people having champagne withdrawals

 

[VPS]

Having a work conference call the other night with my colleagues in the UK. Our coordinator asked all project managers to put coronavirus as a risk in our project plans as we have some work in Asia about to kick off. I said what about the lack of toilet paper in Australia. The coordinator comes back and says oh VPS I just wrote in my minutes that all project managers have to put toilet paper as a risk in our project plans

 

[oz_mark]

Having a work conference call the other night with my colleagues in the UK. Our coordinator asked all project managers to put coronavirus as a risk in our project plans as we have some work in Asia about to kick off. I said what about the lack of toilet paper in Australia. The coordinator comes back and says oh VPS I just wrote in my minutes that all project managers have to put toilet paper as a risk in our project plans

So, what's your mitigation strategy?

 

[get me outta here]

Or.... it is an opportunity (from this morn’s SMH).

“One travel boutique offered "free toilet roll to the first seven local customers to book a holiday with us", and a resident posted a photo of a sign at the Our Place restaurant that declared: "No TOILET paper kept on premises."

I’m still looking on funny side of this. However, having people come out saying, “stay calm”, has been shown to make people anything other than calm.

 

[Pushka]

Extraordinarily busy at my local Dan Murphys this morning pre-lunch - usually a modest amount of people at that hour on a Saturday. And completely out of stock of Veuve Clicquot - which is astonishing! This is an essential in Noosa just like toilet paper is to the rest of the world

Well that's what I'm going to get stuck into instead of my trip to Bali in a couple of weeks. Gotta mourn loss of the holiday somehow.

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Or.... it is an opportunity (from this morn’s SMH).

“One travel boutique offered "free toilet roll to the first seven local customers to book a holiday with us", and a resident posted a photo of a sign at the Our Place restaurant that declared: "No TOILET paper kept on premises."

I’m still looking on funny side of this. However, having people come out saying, “stay calm”, has been shown to make people anything other than calm.

The expression Chill Out likewise makes me angrier than I was before the comment was made. MrP now knows better!

 

[Denali]

Coles and Woolies home deliveres. Usually you can find a delivery slot one or 2 days away but in my area, Coles next available is Friday and Woolies is Thursday so lots of people avoiding shops (which I encourage).

 

[VPS]

Coles and Woolies home deliveres. Usually you can find a delivery slot one or 2 days away but in my area, Coles next available is Friday and Woolies is Thursday so lots of people avoiding shops (which I encourage).

I think it's also so they can stock up on things without being seen hoarding

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So, what's your mitigation strategy?

For work or toilet paper? Work - whatever - I'm not involved in those projects anyway. Toilet paper - I have 8 rolls I'll be fine

 

[MollyJones]

No point stocking up on eggs for your End of The World Bunker as they go off.

Easter eggs don’t go off and all
The shops seem to have plenty of those.
That’s what I’m stocking up on, then a quick trip to Uncle Dan’s, and I’m good to stay home with Netflix once I get a sniffle.
(Don’t want to be named and shamed by Jenny Mikakos for turning up to my hospital job slightly unwell).

 

[Denali]

Ive read that kids learn from watching us....