COVID-19 and Tennis

[drron]

I smell the hand of a Foreign government. The joker applied for an exemption on 10th December or earlier on the grounds of an event that happened on 16/12 on a day he appeared in public and made no mention of the test.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

With a bent coat hanger aerial

Lol. I would the Park Hotel has an external aerial jack at the very least.

 

[antycbr]

I don't see a mention of the travel exemption requirements as per the Border Force website

Department of Home Affairs Website

Home Affairs brings together Australia's federal law enforcement, national and transport security, criminal justice, emergency management, multicultural affairs, settlement services and immigration and border-related functions, working together to keep Australia safe.

covid19.homeaffairs.gov.au

Fully vaccinated Australian citizens, permanent residents and from 15 December 2021, eligible visa holders can travel to and from Australia without needing to apply for a travel exemption.

You may also be able to travel to Australia without seeking a travel exemption if you are fully vaccinated and you are automatically exempt from Australia’s travel restrictions, or if you are travelling to Australia under a safe travel zone arrangement.

All other people seeking to travel to Australia must apply for a travel exemption.

If you are coming to or from Australia you can check what you need to do before you travel by following the below guides:

• Preparing to leave Australia
• Preparing to travel to Australia from overseas.

[At the bottom of the page it confirms it applies to a range of visa including a 408 visa]

Department of Home Affairs Website

Home Affairs brings together Australia's federal law enforcement, national and transport security, criminal justice, emergency management, multicultural affairs, settlement services and immigration and border-related functions, working together to keep Australia safe.

covid19.homeaffairs.gov.au

Important information for travel to Australia

Fully vaccinated Australian citizens, permanent residents and eligible visa holders can travel to and from Australia without needing to apply for a travel exemption.

Immediate family members of Australian citizens, permanent residents or New Zealand citizens usually resident in Australia who do not hold an eligible visa must provide proof of relationship before travel by submitting an exemption request through the Travel Exemption Portal.

All other temporary visa holders seeking to travel to Australia must apply for a travel exemption.

[Individual exemptions section then seems to be applicable.]

Websites are nice and all, but if you’re denying someone entry to the country you will be using legislation to do so.

The government has done a terrible job of drafting their covid regulations.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

I smell the hand of a Foreign government. The joker applied for an exemption on 10th December or earlier on the grounds of an event that happened on 16/12 on a day he appeared in public and made no mention of the test.

Yes, I picked up on that info in the news article. Terrific timing.

So much for isolating if he was testing because of symptoms.

Edit: the reference I saw was that Tennis Australia noted that players need to apply for an exemption by 10 Dec at the latest. So when did he apply 17/12?!?!

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Websites are nice and all, but if you’re denying someone entry to the country you will be using legislation to do so.

The government has done a terrible job of drafting their covid regulations.

Agree, but you would hope someone in Border Force has worked out how their website reflects the law. Our taxpayer dollars hard at work

Because it appears Djokovic's lawyers has completely ignored it (as they should to put their client's best foot forward).

Edit: this has been part of my query from the outset. Visa application; separate Australian travel declaration; separate individual travel exemption. Looks like Djokovic didn't lie and passed the tests required for the visa application and travel declaration.

 

[Lynda2475]

I smell the hand of a Foreign government. The joker applied for an exemption on 10th December or earlier on the grounds of an event that happened on 16/12 on a day he appeared in public and made no mention of the test.

His previous publicised covid infection was in 2020 (ineligible) and if this recent infection was real and after application cut-off it is irrelevent, you cant predict a future infection unless its a planned fake.

Further if indeed his visa type was exempt under Vics entry rules, why did Vic gov refuse to confirm ok when contacted by Borderforce and explicitly state no part in the presser on Friday?

Reeks of a rat, a smarter team would have at least backdated the positive test result to before submission closing date.

 

[prozac]

I smell the hand of a Foreign government. The joker applied for an exemption on 10th December or earlier on the grounds of an event that happened on 16/12 on a day he appeared in public and made no mention of the test.

Serbian govt providing the alibi? Was he even in Serbia. hahahahahahaaaaa

 

[MARTINE]

Rafa is one of the few who has talked any sense in this little melodrama. A wonderful player ; he and Roger are a class act

I’ll even forgive his pirate pants phase

 

[Must...Fly!]

When was be originally meant to arrive to compete in the ATP Cup in Sydney? That tournament began on January 1, did it not? And he withdrew for...reasons relating to waiting an exemption I recall?

Even more fishy that one would have a positive test on December 15.

 

[antycbr]

Even more fishy that one would have a positive test on December 15.

How exactly are you going to prove that his result is fake?

We take results from all over the world at face value. We’d need to conduct an investigation on the ground in Serbia to find out the truth.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

How exactly are you going to prove that his result is fake?

We take results from all over the world at face value. We’d need to conduct an investigation on the ground in Serbia to find out the truth.

An option is the Government lawyer asking questions of Djokovic about his infection and the timing as it relates to his public appearance (eg why did you take test? did you isolate after taking the test? what time was the test?) and a lie/credibility becoming an issue, but I seriously doubt events would turn this way.

 

[jakeseven7]

How exactly are you going to prove that his result is fake?

We take results from all over the world at face value. We’d need to conduct an investigation on the ground in Serbia to find out the truth.

Which would be impossible. Anyone can fake a covid test either way if they thought hard enough. This will be interesting…

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Will this be the 'trial' of the year/decade?

Novak Djokovic visa appeal to be live streamed with questions raised over timeline after maskless images

Question marks over the timeline of events.

uk.sports.yahoo.com

Novak Djokovic’s appeal against the Australian Border Force’s decision to cancel his visa will be streamed live, but there is confusion over the timeline of events the past two months.

After his visa to enter Australia was cancelled as border officials determined he “failed to provide appropriate evidence to meet the entry requirements”, Djokovic lodged an appeal to prevent his deportation.

The 20-time Grand Slam winner’s case against the Australia Minister For Home Affairs will be heard by Judge A Kelly at 10:00 local time on Monday (23:00 GMT Sunday).

Proceedings will be streamed live on Microsoft Teams, but those who join have been told: “Members of the public are not to provide their name when connecting. It is imperative that you keep your camera and audio off as this can affect the progress of the hearing. Any form of recording or photography is not permitted.”

The defending Australian Open champion is adamant that he followed the guidelines provided by Tennis Australia as he was granted an exemption to compete “by an Independent Expert Medical Review panel commissioned by Tennis Australia”, and “the decision of that panel had been reviewed and endorsed by an independent Medical Exemptions Review Panel of the Victorian State Government”.

The Serbian set off to Australia as he believed he would be able to enter the country due to the fact that he contracted Covid-19 up to six months prior to arriving Down Under.

[The link for the instructions to join the courtroom Melbourne court list - General federal law | Federal Circuit and Family Court of Australia ]

 

[antycbr]

Will this be the 'trial' of the year/decade?

Novak Djokovic visa appeal to be live streamed with questions raised over timeline after maskless images

Question marks over the timeline of events.

uk.sports.yahoo.com

Novak Djokovic’s appeal against the Australian Border Force’s decision to cancel his visa will be streamed live, but there is confusion over the timeline of events the past two months.

After his visa to enter Australia was cancelled as border officials determined he “failed to provide appropriate evidence to meet the entry requirements”, Djokovic lodged an appeal to prevent his deportation.

The 20-time Grand Slam winner’s case against the Australia Minister For Home Affairs will be heard by Judge A Kelly at 10:00 local time on Monday (23:00 GMT Sunday).

Proceedings will be streamed live on Microsoft Teams, but those who join have been told: “Members of the public are not to provide their name when connecting. It is imperative that you keep your camera and audio off as this can affect the progress of the hearing. Any form of recording or photography is not permitted.”

The defending Australian Open champion is adamant that he followed the guidelines provided by Tennis Australia as he was granted an exemption to compete “by an Independent Expert Medical Review panel commissioned by Tennis Australia”, and “the decision of that panel had been reviewed and endorsed by an independent Medical Exemptions Review Panel of the Victorian State Government”.

The Serbian set off to Australia as he believed he would be able to enter the country due to the fact that he contracted Covid-19 up to six months prior to arriving Down Under.

[The link for the instructions to join the courtroom Melbourne court list - General federal law | Federal Circuit and Family Court of Australia ]

Someone needs to learn the difference between a Teams Meeting and a Teams Live Event.

 

[Must...Fly!]

How exactly are you going to prove that his result is fake?

I don't think you can to be honest. I doubt the court can compel (and nor should it really) him to undergo a blood test for antibody levels.

I just wanted to point out how the timings here are most curious.

 

[antycbr]

I don't think you can to be honest. I doubt the court can compel (and nor should it really) him to undergo a blood test for antibody levels.

I just wanted to point out how the timings here are most curious.

Good. Lots of people have fought long and hard to stop countries requiring serology reports for HIV as its horribly discriminatory. I don’t want our justice system doing that, if we require it the government needs to legislate it so that I can vote accordingly.

 

[Anna]

On Saturday night at 6.30pm it seems that the Commonwealth asked for Monday's hearing to be put off until Wednesday. The judge refused to allow that and said that Djokovic's case must be presented on Monday starting at 10am. Submissions are to be limited to 90-120 minutes. It's not clear whether there will be oral evidence or only affidavits. The judge did however leave it open that after hearing Djokovic's side of the application, the Commonwealth may be allowed an adjournment to respond, although at the moment the time fixed for the Minister's side to be presented is 3pm on Monday.

 

[MARTINE]

I don't think you can to be honest. I doubt the court can compel (and nor should it really) him to undergo a blood test for antibody levels.

I just wanted to point out how the timings here are most curious.

So all back to the technicality issue of the ATAGI loophole (which is not really the ATAGI loophole ie prior infection does/does not depending on who you are equal/not equal being treated as if your vaccinated.)

Why even convene double triple infinity panels of independent doctors to review the results?….. seems the fact you were a) ‘infected’ in the right time frame and b) not infectious now was cited as basis for meeting the criteria. Hardly requires interpretive medical skills; blinding process would have precluded discussions with treating physicians etc to establish veracity of circumstances as this would unmask facts that identify the case. It would be interesting to see the level of health advice required that was robust whilst still non identifying.

Either way to even know that this defence is possible makes a mockery of the vax requirements etc we all need to enter.

….if he plays I won’t be using my tickets

PS - there is a Covid safe ticket policy whereby you get a refund if symptomatic , isolating , infected, contact etc etc - subject to medical review of course

 

[RooFlyer]

And a positive test on December 15 is most curious. That would be, what, 17 days before his intended travel to Australia? How convenient.

This all still stinks.

Serbian govt providing the alibi? Was he even in Serbia. hahahahahahaaaaa

Ahem ...anticipated on p 2 of this thread ...

Re-the tennis player initially apparently getting through an independent panel’s approval to enter without a vaccination. I guess the panel would be relying on the paperwork for tennis player obtained overseas from ?doctors. Who gave the paperwork and under what circumstances would I suggest be worthy of further investigation, if they could.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Good. Lots of people have fought long and hard to stop countries requiring serology reports for HIV as its horribly discriminatory. I don’t want our justice system doing that, if we require it the government needs to legislate it so that I can vote accordingly.

It is discriminatory I agree but then, all visa procedures are exactly that in some way or another.