COVID-19 and Tennis

[MARTINE]

I think he is going to do it.

Ya think?

 

[antycbr]

Ya think?

We are still waiting for the focus groups to complete this morning.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Just as equally there is nothing scientific about a change.org petition, and they are as irrelevant as petitions to parliament.

So many change.org on Djokovic

48k - no vaccine exemption (deport)
10k - reinstate visa (allow)
.1k - freedom (allow)
0.08k - stop (deport)
1.7k - boycott (deport)
0.2k - protest at treatment (allow/human rights)
0.06k - free (allow)
0.5k - revoke medical exemption (deport)

(first search page - apparent 35 petitions on Djokovic, some relating to previous events)

 

[MARTINE]

Meanwhile I got my tickets today for mens 2nd Semi and Final (which I hope are Novax-free). Attached with this happy little statement. I could have sworn (but may be wrong) when I bought the tickets the word was ‘exemption’ not ‘exception’ but maybe I’m dreaming. The former has become a powerful word!

 

[TheRealTMA]

Two bad options for Morrison to choose between, no matter where the blame lies and not simple.
‘The law is the law’, if only they knew what it was themselves. Looking forward to seeing how they resolve it. Using this to get the children’s vaccine debacle off the front page isn’t quite working.

Possibly the whole cabinet has suddenly booked last minutes flights to Hawaii!

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

This is the form that's been required due to COVID:

Department of Home Affairs Website

Home Affairs brings together Australia's federal law enforcement, national and transport security, criminal justice, emergency management, multicultural affairs, settlement services and immigration and border-related functions, working together to keep Australia safe.

covid19.homeaffairs.gov.au

Thanks. Well he probably travelled twice (Belgrade to Spain) - photos of practice in Spain on 31/12 - (Spain to Dubai) - infamous 'I'm coming' post.

I wonder how heavy a monetary penalty could be applied.

 

[dairyfloss]

Thanks. Well he probably travelled twice (Belgrade to Spain) - photos of practice in Spain on 31/12 - (Spain to Dubai) - infamous 'I'm coming' post.

I wonder how heavy a monetary penalty could be applied.

The cost of a certain recent Australian prosecution would be handy...

 

[SeatBackForward]

Thanks. Well he probably travelled twice (Belgrade to Spain) - photos of practice in Spain on 31/12 - (Spain to Dubai) - infamous 'I'm coming' post.

I wonder how heavy a monetary penalty could be applied.

Monetary penalty is peanuts for him, time would be 12months, but the more dramatic outcome is that falsification should be grounds for instant deportation.

 

[MARTINE]

Monetary penalty is peanuts for him, time would be 12months, but the more dramatic outcome is that falsification should be grounds for instant deportation.

…. For most people….

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

The cost of a certain recent Australian prosecution would be handy...

That was what I was hoping - but I doubt the legal penalties/fines chart goes that far.

 

[Lynda2475]

Deporting him so he cant earn AO $ and banning him for 3 years so cant do the same in 2023 and 2024 would be a great start.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Monetary penalty is peanuts for him, time would be 12months, but the more dramatic outcome is that falsification should be grounds for instant deportation.

Yeah but we don't deport people for false and misleading statements on people's customs forms. Sometimes the punishment has to fit the crime.

I don't know what remedies (deportation/fines) are available for such a 'crime'. Perhaps cancelled visa might be available for lying on a travel declaration. If so, then Border Force can surely come in before the Minister needs to do anything.

 

[SeatBackForward]

That was what I was hoping - but I doubt the legal penalties/fines chart goes that far.

The ATD page spells it out directly:

A person who fails to comply with the requirement may be liable to a civil penalty (fine) of 30 penalty units (currently $6,660 AUD). This is set out in section 46 of the Biosecurity Act 2015.

Giving false or misleading information to the Australian Government is a serious offence. If convicted, the maximum penalty is imprisonment for 12 months.

 

[Lynda2475]

Yeah but we don't deport people for false and misleading statements on people's customs forms.

You are joking right?

Obviously you have never watched Border Security. ABF deport people all the time who make false declarations such as stating purpose of visit is a vacation, but ABF agent deems they are planning to work and deny entry/ cancel visa and put them on the next plane home.

 

[drron]

Two bad options for Morrison to choose between, no matter where the blame lies and not simple.
‘The law is the law’, if only they knew what it was themselves. Looking forward to seeing how they resolve it. Using this to get the children’s vaccine debacle off the front page isn’t quite working.

Just becausec a few talking heads say there is a debacle doesn't mean there is one. There are 2.3 million 5-11 year olds. 3 million doses on hand and 2 million due in early February in plenty of time for the second dose. Even Blind Freddy wouldn't expect everyone to be vaccinated in the first week.

 

[Lynda2475]

I personally know of several under 5-11s who got their first dose yesterday with zero issues at Olympic Park mass vaccination centre, all booked online in advance. Parents all said was very smooth. Just because a few GPs are whinging doesn't make the whole roll-out a debacle.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

The ATD page spells it out directly:

So he keeps his visa, plays tennis, wins 21st GS (AO), then gets put into prison. OK that's going to work out well.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

The ATD page spells it out directly:

I was reading the document off the Twitter post you linked again and under the 14 day travel question, it said false and misleading is serious yada-yada, then talks about civil penalties, so it sounds like $6k only, and not imprisonment.

 

[SeatBackForward]

I was reading the document off the Twitter post you linked again and under the 14 day travel question, it said false and misleading is serious yada-yada, then talks about civil penalties, so it sounds like $6k only, and not imprisonment.

Thats what the form says, but the actual ATD page notes the imprisonment part in bold also: Australia Travel Declaration | COVID-19 and the border

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Thats what the form says, but the actual ATD page notes the imprisonment part in bold also: Australia Travel Declaration | COVID-19 and the border

Be that as it may I doubt a court (assuming conviction) will impose imprisonment for such a crime. Mostly likely use their judicial discretion which I assume they normally have.