Cricket in the Playground

[Shano]

Theoretically no. it would be possible to score 8 if it was also a no-ball. But I have no idea if 8 has ever actually been scored in a test match.

I guess that it would be possible to score more than this if the fielding team was totally incompetent with multiple overthrows - I do not know if this has every happened though

 

[Kiwi Flyer]

Theoretically no. it would be possible to score 8 if it was also a no-ball. But I have no idea if 8 has ever actually been scored in a test match.

theoretically it is also possible to score 9

no ball
run 4 (or more if fielders particularly slow)
and 4 overthrows

 

[NM]

theoretically it is also possible to score 9

no ball
run 4 (or more if fielders particularly slow)
and 4 overthrows

True. Or as Shano mentions, perhaps even multiple overthrows where only the last one makes it all the way to the boundary.

 

[Kiwi Flyer]

cricketing equivalent of the yips in golf?

 

[JohnK]

Theoretically no. it would be possible to score 8 if it was also a no-ball. But I have no idea if 8 has ever actually been scored in a test match.

This needs to be checked against the rules but I didn't think there was a limit on the number of runs that can be scored for each delivery. Is there?

Theoretically, the bowler bowls a no-ball, the batsmen scamper through for a quick single, the fielder then shies at the stumps and misses and the ball heads for the longest part of the ground and batsmen run another four runs, then the fielder retrieving the ball throws it back and ball hits the helmet for another five runs. A grand total of 11 runs.

 

[JohnK]

Should have taken the 8:1 on offer for an Aussie win at the end of the 4th day. But hindsight is a wonderful thing ...

Has anyone asked Flintoff if he would like to have a chance at changing his decision to declare at 6/551?

 

[serfty]

8 runs were scored in a test match at the MCG (IIRC) a decade or two ago.

The batsmen ran four with the fielded ball whizzing back across the ground to the opposite boundary.

I remember Ch9 interviewing their stats guru some weeks later in and the 8 was his "highlight" of the season.

 

[Shano]

I have just been googling and discovered that the most number of runs recorded for a single delivery in an international match is 17. The key here is the word recorded....

Normally maximum runs scored off one ball is 6. It could be more, if you are allowed by the fielding side to run more runs (I have scored 8 in a college game in Ahmedabad, India in 1972). However, under these circumstances (like the ball gets lost within the field as it happened in my game due to tall grass) the fielding side can declare "Lost Ball" and I think batting side and the batsman (if the ball is hit) will get 6 runs plus all that he has run. However, the question of 17 runs off one ball can be explained as follows:

If the bowler bowls more than one illegitimate delivery (no balls) before a legitimate ball is bowled, all the runs scored COLLECTIVELY, will count in the score book towards one ball. e.g. a bowler bowls 3 no balls and is hit for all fours (12 + 3 =15 runs). Next ball is legitimate and he concedes 2 runs. In the score book that goes as 17 off one LEGITIMATE delivery.

This happened in the first ODI between India-Pakistan in March 2004 at Karachi. Pakistani bowler Rana Naved-Ul-Hasan conceded 24 runs in his first over with 4 no balls. I think he bowled 3 or all 4 no balls consequtively and ended up with 17 off one ball.

Not quite in the same vein as the previous posts but interesting nevertheless

 

[simongr]

Good that we are getting off the topic of how badly england played

So in theory there is no limit to how many runs can be recorded against a single ball. Even on three no balls max that could be 27 (three sixes hit of no balls and a six off the legitimate ball). At that point though the bowler might feign injury and leave the pitch - I know I would...

 

[NM]

Has anyone asked Flintoff if he would like to have a chance at changing his decision to declare at 6/551?

Perhaps he took the 8:1 odds the night before :shock: .

But in all seriousness, it was not the declaration that caused the English loss. The declaration was the right decision at the time. It was the right time to declare and the only problem at that point was the slow run rate compared with what other modern teams have scored in 5.5 sessions. Given they were only 6 down, they should have been closer to 650 after 5.5 sessions. If they were able to declare over 600 half way through the 6th session, the result would most likely have been different.

 

[serfty]

... the result would most likely have been different.

...probably MUCH different if Giles had not dropped Ponting ... :-|

 

[JohnK]

Perhaps he took the 8:1 odds the night before :shock: .

Perhaps he was having a drink with Rodney Marsh and Dennis Lillee!

Right or wrong England should have continued batting instead of declaring. Drive the opposition into the ground while you have the chance. Placid pitch, inferior bowling attack and once Australia got close to England's total it was going to be tremendous pressure for England to play out the match. Go to Perth 1-0 down in the Ashes instead of 2-0 down and series over.

Ashley Giles! How he has managed to play 54 test matches is beyond me. And only 142 test wickets!

 

[NM]

Ashley Giles! How he has managed to play 54 test matches is beyond me. And only 142 test wickets!

And only 33 test catches. Should be at least 34 by now.

 

[kpc]

And only 33 test catches. Should be at least 34 by now.

You are not going to let him forget that he dropped Ponting, are you?:mrgreen:

 

[NM]

You are not going to let him forget that he dropped Ponting, are you?:mrgreen:

I was just "ponting" out the fact that his catches statistic is a little lower than it really should be :mrgreen: .

 

[Kiwi Flyer]

did anyone else catch the comment about a bad hour - bah

 

[JohnK]

And only 33 test catches. Should be at least 34 by now.

Giles may well have played his last test match and not because of the dropped catch either.

Bring on Monty Panesar!

 

[NM]

Giles may well have played his last test match and not because of the dropped catch either.

Bring on Monty Panesar!

it would appear that Giles is no longer the full Monty :shock: .

 

[JohnK]

Shock news announcement. :shock: Asked nicely to consider retiring? I guess it paves the way for Shane Watson, if fit, to slot back into the side or Phil Jacques to get his turn.

Martyn in shock retirement

Friday Dec 8 14:00 AEDT

Australian batsman Damien Martyn has announced his retirement from all cricket, effective immediately.

The 35-year-old said he felt it was time to step aside after 13 years of international cricket, during which time he scored 13 Test hundreds and five one-day centuries.

"I have enjoyed everything the game has given me," Martyn said. "I said to myself when I made this decision in the last 48 hours that I may lose friends in doing what I'm doing.

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[Kiwi Flyer]

Meanwhile on this side of the tasman, the test against Sri Lanka is barely making it into the 3rd day. SL have 48 run lead with 2 2nd innings wickets in hand. Still on day 2