Cruising choices with an active Pandemic

[Pushka]

We have two future cruises booked with Viking. One to Japan and China in April 2021 and one to Egypt in 2021 in December. I didn't think because they are a year plus out that this policy would apply to us, but it does As we received emails overnight. So we will likely cancel the Japan one for next year and we are allowed to put the voucher to the Egypt one in December 2021. We have only paid a basic deposit.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I think that's what I said.

" and doesn’t improve cash."

It does compared to 1/ if they refunded and 2/ By encouraging new bookings to occur

"This is likely more to encourage goodwill, as well as increase comfort in people making new bookings as they feel they are less likely to be penalised if/as this situation continues. I feel it is more new bookings drying up that is the issue."

But it's not so much about keeping the cash of those who've already paid in advance.

They are not refunding and so they are very much keeping the cash of those that have already paid in advance.

 

[tgh]

Silversea have just advised that they are now offering full cancellation up to 30 days before sailing with just the admin charge applicable
The money will earn nothing here so I guess I will sit ( and hope that rcl does not register for chapter 11… )
The explorer will go somewhere if Japan is no go , it will be interesting to see what they come up with.

 

[zig]

Silversea have just advised that they are now offering full cancellation up to 30 days before sailing with just the admin charge applicable
The money will earn nothing here so I guess I will sit ( and hope that rcl does not register for chapter 11… )
The explorer will go somewhere if Japan is no go , it will be interesting to see what they come up with.

I don’t see any updates on the SS website about this. Is it just information you received directly as a result of your upcoming booking?

 

[tgh]

Advised by my ta

 

[zig]

Advised by my ta

Perhaps SS is making these decisions on a case by case basis rather than making a service wide announcement.

 

[odysseus]

" and doesn’t improve cash."

It does compared to 1/ if they refunded and 2/ By encouraging new bookings to occur

Which you've dropped the context of. I said this statement was for "For the majority, including those within full payment, the cruise line would have the cash anyway. It’s just this allows the customer to keep the use of those funds as a credit so this is actually a benefit to the customer, not the cruiseline and doesn’t improve cash. "

It doesn't improve cash for those who've already paid and are cancelling as the cruiseline was already entitled to that cash. So point 1 doesn't apply as they wouldn't refund it anyway, and point 2 is a separate point - new bookings, not existing bookings - which was covered later.

They are not refunding and so they are very much keeping the cash of those that have already paid in advance.

Which is the status quo.

 

[tgh]

Here we go again...... the floating petri dish is back

Thousands of people on Princess Cruises' Grand Princess may have been exposed to coronavirus after sailing with 62 passengers who company officials say had previously been on a voyage with a man who eventually died from the virus.

A 71-year-old man from California died from coronavirus after sailing on the Grand Princess on a cruise from San Francisco that visited Mexico from Feb. 11 through Feb. 21. Health officials in Placer County, where the man died, said he was "likely exposed" to the virus on board the Grand Princess.

The 62 passengers who may have come in contact with the man who died are now being confined to their staterooms on board, by order of the CDC. The ship was on its way to Mexico from a Hawaiian port, according to CruiseMapper.

But the cruise line has ordered the ship to re-route to San Francisco, where it is expected to arrive Thursday afternoon, according to a letter that Princess officials sent to passengers on board and which is available to read on the company web site.

 

[Pushka]

Here we go again...... the floating petri dish is back

Thousands of people on Princess Cruises' Grand Princess may have been exposed to coronavirus after sailing with 62 passengers who company officials say had previously been on a voyage with a man who eventually died from the virus.

A 71-year-old man from California died from coronavirus after sailing on the Grand Princess on a cruise from San Francisco that visited Mexico from Feb. 11 through Feb. 21. Health officials in Placer County, where the man died, said he was "likely exposed" to the virus on board the Grand Princess.

The 62 passengers who may have come in contact with the man who died are now being confined to their staterooms on board, by order of the CDC. The ship was on its way to Mexico from a Hawaiian port, according to CruiseMapper.

But the cruise line has ordered the ship to re-route to San Francisco, where it is expected to arrive Thursday afternoon, according to a letter that Princess officials sent to passengers on board and which is available to read on the company web site.

Princess cannot take a trick right now. And this will hit the USA people hard who thought theyd be safe.

There is a large corporate meeting in the US with all cruiselines on Saturday I've heard, maybe even with the VP? That's about the time they need to start unravelling all the TAs out of the USA and into the Med. Have said for a couple of weeks that Med cruises are at dire risk now.

 

[Pushka]

Princess has just had to cancel a cruise starting in a few days - Princess Grand - sailing out of the US because a previous passenger has died from Covid and on the current sailing several passengers and crew are showing symptoms. This time the ship will be berthed off US waters and under the direct control of CDC. Mike Pence (US VP) is meeting with cruiselines possibly Thursday.

 

[moa999]

Ouch for Branson who is just launching his new cruise line.

 

[k_sheep]

Ohh after the Japanese ship, I took the chance and booked an inside cabin for my Alaska cruise in August! Gee I hope I dont live to regret my cheap-skate-ed-ness!

 

[straitman]

We have until April 18 to cancel an October cruise starting in Rome and heading to Sydney. It would be a deposit loss but as the cruise is 46 nights the deposit is around $1000.
Unless something dramatic occurs it will be a cancellation.

 

[VPS]

Ohh after the Japanese ship, I took the chance and booked an inside cabin for my Alaska cruise in August! Gee I hope I dont live to regret my cheap-skate-ed-ness!

You're a brave person - at least I would have booked an outside cabin - GOOD LUCK

 

[SydneySwan]

Unless something dramatic occurs it will be a cancellation.

Something dramatic would presumably be allowing you to cancel at a later date for no further penalty or even no penalty at all.

 

[amaroo]

The World is awash with cruise misery - cancellation, no matter what the cost has to be the only call?

 

[Anna]

@straitman 46 nights! Wow, you're keen! What ship?

@Pushka out of interest Pushka, why do you call the Princess ships 'Princess Diamond' and 'Princess Grand'? Don't the adjectives come first? I'm pretty sure it was 'Grand Princess' that we did the AFF cruise on?

 

[Pushka]

@straitman 46 nights! Wow, you're keen! What ship?

@Pushka out of interest Pushka, why do you call the Princess ships 'Princess Diamond' and 'Princess Grand'? Don't the adjectives come first? I'm pretty sure it was 'Grand Princess' that we did the AFF cruise on?

Probably simply because I remember Brand first then the ship? I do the same when thinking about Celebrity and Viking.

 

[I love to travel]

We have until April 18 to cancel an October cruise starting in Rome and heading to Sydney. It would be a deposit loss but as the cruise is 46 nights the deposit is around $1000.
Unless something dramatic occurs it will be a cancellation.

Based on the last week I wouldn't be cancelling yet as I think cruising is about to come to a screaming halt everywhere. Then you will get the deposit back.

 

[amaroo]

One after another...

Coronavirus: Cruise ship turned away from Malta amid doctor threats

The Maltese government says the decision was taken after a "misleading" report raised public alarm.

www.bbc.com