Discussion on Ukraine situation 2022

[HappyFlyerFamily]

An entertainment sanction

Russia kicked out of 2022 Eurovision

The stage that unites Europe is now divided.

www.news.com.au

 

[Jenya]

Did you know that Australian govt funded TV station SBS still rebroadcasts pure Kremlin's propaganda channel NTV free to air and were doing it for last 20 years?
Well, today we stopped it. No more terrorist state BS here.

#StopPutinNOW
#StopRussianAggression
#FreePoliticalPrisoners

There were many letters like this one sent

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Some sport sanctions

Ukraine conflict: Champions League final moved from Russia & F1 GP cancelled

The 2022 Champions League final will be played in Paris after Russia is stripped of the match following the nation's invasion of Ukraine.

www.bbc.com

 

[antycbr]

An entertainment sanction

Russia kicked out of 2022 Eurovision

The stage that unites Europe is now divided.

www.news.com.au

More fun would have been the reaction if they’d turned up.

We can go back to having Eurovision and Intervision for the eastern bloc.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Includes information on size of each country's military (Russia, Ukraine)

Ukraine and Russia's militaries are David and Goliath. Here's how they compare | CNN

The military capabilities of these two nations are so imbalanced that Ukraine's defiant president, Volodymyr Zelensky, has implored his Western allies to do more than impose sanctions to get Russian troops off Ukrainian soil.

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On other potential flashpoints raised earlier in this thread, a potential China-Taiwan war seems to have similar comparisons based on size. The "unknown" question is to what extent the US has an interest in actually defending Taiwan (as opposed to sending defence missiles/materiel) or attacking China (best defence is perhaps attack???)

Republic of China Armed Forces - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

People's Liberation Army - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Singapore has a small military, but doesn't appear to have any "natural" antagonists at this time

Singapore Armed Forces - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[tgh]

to what extent the US has an interest in actually defending Taiwan

I thought the US was fully committed to saving the semiconductor industry (ie Taiwan).. am I wrong ?

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

to what extent the US has an interest in actually defending Taiwan

I thought the US was fully committed to saving the semiconductor industry (ie Taiwan).. am I wrong ?

Taiwan apparently at 7% - what makes them desirable?

Semiconductor market share by country 2022 | Statista

In 2022, the semiconductor industry in the United States accounted for 48 percent of the global semiconductor market based on the headquarters of the company.

www.statista.com

 

[tgh]

Apparently most of the Chinese interest is in getting their hands on some of the peak semiconductor tech that keeps their military on the second rung.
The spin about reunification is all garbage, it's all about winning and holding the cutting edge of world military superiority.
Sadly I failed to save the links that expressed this argument ..so ….er…..ymmv…

 

[Jenya]

 

[moa999]

Some sport sanctions

Just a shame that China doesn't have an F1 race this year or the Olympics weren't later.

Because their reaction (or lack of) is just as galling, and good on the Aus govt for calling China out, despite what will undoubtedly be more relationship damage.

 

[kpc]

Just a shame that China doesn't have an F1 race this year or the Olympics weren't later.

Still have the Winter Paralympics to go from March 4 but I guess no one really cares much about that...

 

[randompunter]

Oligarchs fleeing:

Oligarchs Flee Russia

 

[MARTINE]

Oligarchs fleeing:

Oligarchs Flee Russia

When the assets in Knightsbridge and Belgravia are frozen theyll be fleeing on bicycles not jets and Eton/Harrow stampede to the door

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

In oligarch news, Chelsea is now under the stewardship of a board of trustees (no longer 'Russian oligarch' Roman Abramovich - who is not yet under sanctions)

Russian oligarch gives up football giant Chelsea in shock news

Chelsea’s Russian owner Roman Abramovich has sensationally given up control of the football club amid the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

www.news.com.au

A brief article explaining the economic sanctions

Analysis: Sanctions will put Russia's 'fortress' economy to the test

Vladimir Putin has been expecting the West.

edition.cnn.com

 

[jb747]

China can’t just drive to Taiwan, which makes their problem somewhat more akin to Normandy than the blitzkrieg. Mind you, I’d be surprised at nothing, these days.

 

[antycbr]

China can’t just drive to Taiwan, which makes their problem somewhat more akin to Normandy than the blitzkrieg. Mind you, I’d be surprised at nothing, these days.

Expect substantial purchases of US military equipment by Taiwan to be approved by Congress. The other challenge for the PRC is marshalling shipping is very hard to do undetected.

Taiwan have long range strike missives something that Australia should be acquiring to protect our maritime approaches.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Expect substantial purchases of US military equipment by Taiwan to be approved by Congress. The other challenge for the PRC is marshalling shipping is very hard to do undetected.

Taiwan have long range strike missives something that Australia should be acquiring to protect our maritime approaches.

The marshalling of troops for this conflict was detected. How is navy different? Perhaps submarines can be undetected for a period, but the payload probably wouldn't be sufficient. Taiwan Straits is less than 200 km - it shouldn't take long for a naval vessel to cross that to land infantry.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

White House and EU nations announce expulsion of 'selected Russian banks' from SWIFT

The White House, along with the European Commission, France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom and Canada, announced Saturday evening that they would expel certain Russian banks from SWIFT, the high-security network that connects thousands of financial institutions around the world, pledging to...

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[kelvedon]

The marshalling of troops for this conflict was detected. How is navy different? Perhaps submarines can be undetected for a period, but the payload probably wouldn't be sufficient. Taiwan Straits is less than 200 km - it shouldn't take long for a naval vessel to cross that to land infantry.

Maybe a few nuclear submarines waiting in the Taiwan Strait will concern the CCP. They can stay hidden for months at a time…..and if the CCP doesn’t invade in the next 30 years, we can join the US, UK and France.

 

[drron]

Doesn't look like Ukraine can count on the US for significant help.