Discussion/Q&A on Best QF Status Run Options

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This thread is for Questions and General discussion regarding the Best Status Run Options for QFF as per this thread:

Overview of Best Status Run Options [not the discussion thread]

Please keep your questions and queries to this thread and avoid posting in the other.




You can also get some status run inspiration from this AFF article:

 
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You trying to live up to your name madrooster. Awesome cost but that's a hell of a trip

The goal was to see what the fare would let you do at the extreme end, rather than actually attempt to fly this trip!
 
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Those layovers of 53 mins and 48 mins are a concern. IIRC First class seats are assigned to standby passengers something like 15 minutes before departure. If you arrive at the gate late due to late inbound, you could find yourself in coach.

While the AA multi-city will only go up to 6 flights, the key is to enter city pairs which have a forced connection, thereby getting 8 sectors. Quaffer in post 2598 shows how this was done for your original plan to PTY. By breaking the journey SEA-CLT and then CLT-PTY it forced two connections to return 4 segments (and the same for the reverse). The multi-city tool doesn't always do this... so you need to sometimes play around with the city pairs to get the right result.

Please excuse my ignorance , but are the "F" bookings on a standby basis? Hence the "lower" fare? How does this affect the net result of SC earn if you don't get the desired seat?
And any other explanatory information you have for Someone like me with NFI how these things work! :-)
 
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Please excuse my ignorance , but are the "F" bookings on a standby basis? Hence the "lower" fare? How does this affect the net result of SC earn if you don't get the desired seat?
And any other explanatory information you have for Someone like me with NFI how these things work! :-)

Instant upgrade fares traditionally book into economy, with an 'instant upgrade' at time of booking to first class.

In the event of IRROPS, three options will present themselves. You'll be protected where possible in F on the next flight, or if F is sold out, you will be protected in the original class - economy (assuming space is available, normal IRROPS rules apply).

If you are protected in coach, you have the option to decline the economy seat and wait for the next service where F is available (which could be the next flight, or several flights later, or even the next day).

Because most American based carriers offer free upgrades to elite members, the waiting list at airports for first class seats can be very long. I've seen upwards of 50-60 passengers on the upgrade list for an ORD-LAX B767 flight. Your position on the waiting list will be determined by a number of factors including fare paid and status. I flew on a YUP once booked in Y class which was subject to IRROPS. I was at the top of the waitlist for the next flight because Y class was the highest fare bucket.

At whatever point it is before departure (I thought around 15 minutes, but it might be earlier), any passengers who are ticketed but have not boarded in F - their seats can be reassigned to those on the waitlist.

What happens if you have to fly coach? You can approach QF for an original routing credit. Many have reported success with this. How will it work under simpler and fairer where QF might now look at the ticket and see the fare class if coach? I dunno. They may decide at some point to say 'well, this was an instant upgrade, so we'll only credit you economy'. That kinda mucks up your potential SC earn.

Instant upgrade fares are confirmed in F - they're not standby. Until something goes wrong. I usually build in a buffer for multi-sector flights, not taking the immediate connection, but the one after. This can make your day a fair bit longer, but if you can manage it, provides a fair bit of peace of mind.

The important thing is to check the fare rules. The whole blurb about IRROPS and being accommodated in coach doesn't seem to be there anymore, but the following still remains for some fares (highlighting the need for an economy underlying seat to be available):

NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. ECONOMY FARE WITH AN INSTANT ONE-CLASS UPGRADE AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE TO FIRST/BUSINESS. APPLICATION CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE. CAPACITY LIMITATIONS SEATS ARE LIMITED BOTH ECONOMY AND FIRST CLASS BOOKING INVENTORIES MUST BE AVAILABLE AT TIME OF BOOKING. THESE FARES PERMIT A ONE-CLASS UPGRADE AT THE TIME OF BOOKING.
 
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Instant upgrade fares traditionally book into economy, with an 'instant upgrade' at time of booking to first class.

In the event of IRROPS, three options will present themselves. You'll be protected where possible in F on the next flight, or if F is sold out, you will be protected in the original class - economy (assuming space is available, normal IRROPS rules apply).

If you are protected in coach, you have the option to decline the economy seat and wait for the next service where F is available (which could be the next flight, or several flights later, or even the next day).

Because most American based carriers offer free upgrades to elite members, the waiting list at airports for first class seats can be very long. I've seen upwards of 50-60 passengers on the upgrade list for an ORD-LAX B767 flight. Your position on the waiting list will be determined by a number of factors including fare paid and status. I flew on a YUP once booked in Y class which was subject to IRROPS. I was at the top of the waitlist for the next flight because Y class was the highest fare bucket.

At whatever point it is before departure (I thought around 15 minutes, but it might be earlier), any passengers who are ticketed but have not boarded in F - their seats can be reassigned to those on the waitlist.

What happens if you have to fly coach? You can approach QF for an original routing credit. Many have reported success with this. How will it work under simpler and fairer where QF might now look at the ticket and see the fare class if coach? I dunno. They may decide at some point to say 'well, this was an instant upgrade, so we'll only credit you economy'. That kinda mucks up your potential SC earn.

Instant upgrade fares are confirmed in F - they're not standby. Until something goes wrong. I usually build in a buffer for multi-sector flights, not taking the immediate connection, but the one after. This can make your day a fair bit longer, but if you can manage it, provides a fair bit of peace of mind.

The important thing is to check the fare rules. The whole blurb about IRROPS and being accommodated in coach doesn't seem to be there anymore, but the following still remains for some fares (highlighting the need for an economy underlying seat to be available):

I think I need to buy you lunch :-)
 
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I actually wouldn't mind it if I know what the timing were.

It's variable, because you can transit at each city for up to 24 hours (up to 7 cities in each direction). You don't have to go through the same cities in both directions either.

In my example, I've optimised to complete the run in a short period of time, rather than making extensive use of the fare to visit other cities along the way. There's a number of combinations possible with the example 16 segment fare that I posted above. As long as the right seat availability is there, it's pretty flexible. HNL-LAX and LAX-HNL are the difficult segments to get the right seat availability on, everything else isn't too hard at all.
 
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It's variable, because you can transit at each city for up to 24 hours (up to 7 cities in each direction). You don't have to go through the same cities in both directions either.

In my example, I've optimised to complete the run in a short period of time, rather than making extensive use of the fare to visit other cities along the way. There's a number of combinations possible with the example 16 segment fare that I posted above. As long as the right seat availability is there, it's pretty flexible. HNL-LAX and LAX-HNL are the difficult segments to get the right seat availability on, everything else isn't too hard at all.

I'm actually tight on time, so not very keen on having stop overs along the way. I'll have a bit of time next week to play with different scenarios. Thanks for your original post and the subsequent explanation. Cheers!
 
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I'm actually tight on time, so not very keen on having stop overs along the way. I'll have a bit of time next week to play with different scenarios. Thanks for your original post and the subsequent explanation. Cheers!

No stopovers required at all. You can make it as short as you like by transiting with minimum times, or make it as long as you like by doing long transits/overnight transits in every city.
 
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No stopovers required at all. You can make it as short as you like by transiting with minimum times, or make it as long as you like by doing long transits/overnight transits in every city.

If I end up doing this, it'll be a very quick in and out (plus of course the obligatory visit to the In & Out joint) :-)
 
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For Dom status run I found that doing SYD-AKL-BNE-PER in J is good too is about +/- 2000 mark for 240SC one way
 
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Our colleagues deem that too $$$ Fly Boy Jerry.
That is why they are quoting Usd$1.xx per QF SC. That low is not available in Australia.
But your point is good for those self employed sub contractors like me. No appear at a site no pay.
 
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Our colleagues deem that too $$$ Fly Boy Jerry.
That is why they are quoting Usd$1.xx per QF SC. That low is not available in Australia.
But your point is good for those self employed sub contractors like me. No appear at a site no pay.

Is not much different if I do Syd-Per via CBR and MEL
Syd-Cbr is one tickets and Cbr-Mel-Per a different tickets but on the same itinerary all in flex Y, return on this trip just under $2000 but only get me 160SC. Plus I been doing this route so much, it all seem too normal for me now is time to mix it up a bit.

If i do Per via Akl I will do Per to Syd direct on the way back all up will be 280SC or 320SC if i do Syd-Akl with EK in F and the rest of the way to Per in J, and Per to Syd in flex Y with the hope of getting a upgrade. That is my game plan for my next trip to Per so i can reach gold =p
 
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Slight update since I last posted/asked. I need 245 points for Platinum. Have a MEL-CBR return booked, which takes me to 205.
I spoke to Qantas on the phone and was told that If I can get within about 100 points they would review my application and see if they would award me Platinum.

So I need to get say ~110 points before 31st December, though any more would of course be better. Any thoughts? Leaving from MEL?

Thanks :D
 
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Slight update since I last posted/asked. I need 245 points for Platinum. Have a MEL-CBR return booked, which takes me to 205.
I spoke to Qantas on the phone and was told that If I can get within about 100 points they would review my application and see if they would award me Platinum.

So I need to get say ~110 points before 31st December. Any thoughts? Leaving from MEL?

Thanks :D


Depends how much you want platinum!?

'See if they will award' is not 'will award'. You could find yourself missing out.
 
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Depends how much you want platinum!?

'See if they will award' is not 'will award'. You could find yourself missing out.

Agreed, sadly. May as well shoot for the 205 points. Any thoughts? :)

I also suppose that 100 points with risk is probably half the price of 205 points without risk. So would need to weigh it all up vs the $.
 
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Slight update since I last posted/asked. I need 245 points for Platinum. Have a MEL-CBR return booked, which takes me to 205.
I spoke to Qantas on the phone and was told that If I can get within about 100 points they would review my application and see if they would award me Platinum.

So I need to get say ~110 points before 31st December, though any more would of course be better. Any thoughts? Leaving from MEL?

Thanks :D

I am in a similar boat but on 1320SC (same anniversary date too!) and I dont think I will get the chance to do any more flying this year.

Just wondering who you talked to? Just the normal qantas desk? (i.e. who do I need to beg haha)

Gav
 
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I am in a similar boat but on 1320SC (same anniversary date too!) and I dont think I will get the chance to do any more flying this year.

Just wondering who you talked to? Just the normal qantas desk? (i.e. who do I need to beg haha)

Gav

I called up the frequent flyer number on the back of my card. Just spoke to whoever answered. I asked them what happens if I fall short, they said to call back a week before my "end" date and they will talk about it further and review.
 
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Agreed, sadly. May as well shoot for the 205 points. Any thoughts?

The easiest way would be MEL-xBNE-DRW return, one way in J the other Flex Y for 210 SCs and $1,600-ish. You may want to consider the round trip in J for both legs for $2,100ish.
 
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'See if they will award' is not 'will award'. You could find yourself missing out.

i got very badly burnt from that sort of comment from QF, So my thought is get the 205 needed and don't chance it
 
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