Do you know the lounge access rules? (Quiz!)

[Matt_01]

@trippin_the_rift great little quiz, I would post my answers however this would only publicly display my ignorance and lack of understanding of the rules. I fly to much and being WP1, MrsM has has the comp WP and then there is only MissM, so as a party of 3 and using OW carriers outside of specific F lounge access rules e.g. QR, BA, AA I do worry about the F or J lounge access rules. We also tend to travel in J or F, then coupled with PP via Amex even second rate lounges are available. Such first world problems.

 

[harvyk]

9. You have flown in on a Qantas flight to Australia to LAX connecting on to a AS flight with AS flight number to Seattle can QF Gold access the Alaska lounge.

I'll let you know first hand in mid May

 

[ermen]

How well do you know the Qantas Frequent Flyer and Oneworld Lounge access rules...
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1. You are travelling with your 5-year-old child and your partner (3 pax total) on a QF domestic flight.
You're all in economy and the child is the only person with status - holding QF Gold.
Can you all enter the lounge?

i think strictly under the rules it is only access for 1 adult.

but in practice, they see "QF Gold" and they will wave you in (make the assumption that it is the parent who has status).

NB there is no "processing" , just really a wave through - if you look confident think they may not even check sometimes (I wonder why there is no formal registration though...)

 

[harvyk]

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NB there is no "processing" , just really a wave through - if you look confident think they may not even check sometimes (I wonder why there is no formal registration though...)

That's the case with a lot of things. Look like you're meant to be there and you'll seldom be questioned about it.

Bonus points for smiling and nodding making eye contact as it can make the person feel stupid that they don't remember you. (Despite potentially never having laid eyes on you before)

 

[Kangol]

@sbor90 has the correct answers in post 4.

This goes back to the argument about a QF WP being classed as a QF WP or a OWE when accessing the F lounge.
To my knowledge, this has never been officially clarified.

You would think there is a reason why they have two separate entries with different guest "flight requirements" here:
Lounge Location | Australia | Melbourne International | International First

Platinum Frequent Flyer
Next onward flight must be on a Qantas^, Emirates^, China Eastern*, Jetstar Airlines+ or oneworld operated and marketed flight. #
One guest allowed and must be travelling with the member on the same flight.

Emerald
Next onward flight that day must be on a oneworld operated and marketed flight.#
One guest allowed and must be travelling on a oneworld operated and marketed flight.#

Guessing this has something to do with who pays for the guest. Does the lounge charge the airline or respective FF program for entry for both member and/or guest if status is used to gain entry?

 

[Kangol]

Generally, lounge entry is processed by the number of boarding passes and not by who owns what boarding pass. With that in mind - a child could guest 2x adults into most lounges unless question (8) applies.

I thought this thread was about knowing the rules, not how BPs are processed

What is the official answer to the 5yo SG guesting two NB adults into the QP?

 

[Deleted member 29185]

I thought this thread was about knowing the rules,

I gave your post a "funny" face, as they way rules are applied at QF seems to change with the weather!

 

[kiwitripper64]

I'll let you know first hand in mid May

We got into the LAX As lounge a few years ago on QF codeshare. But absolutely no way of getting into Seattle lounge with QF codeshare back to LAX. Someone said this had changed last year.

And then there was Bangkok last year. QF SYD-BKK then code share QF on Jet Airways to DEL. As 2 WP we were not allowed in to any OW lounge, and had a cheeky try for EK with no luck. CX staff directed us to Miracle lounge which gave us shelter and surprisingly good food.

 

[opusman]

We got into the LAX As lounge a few years ago on QF codeshare. But absolutely no way of getting into Seattle lounge with QF codeshare back to LAX. Someone said this had changed last year.

AFAIK there was never access due to QF/OW status to the AS lounge; I have got into the SEA lounge many times on the QF codeshare due to being in F, but not due to status.

 

[kiwitripper64]

I just looked at qantas site. This is more evidence that lounge rules are hard to follow.
Be recognised when flying with Alaska Airlines
Gold, Platinum, Platinum One Qantas Frequent Flyers and Qantas Club members can enjoy access for you and a guest to Alaska's lounges in Los Angeles, Seattle, Anchorage and Portland when flying on an Alaska Airlines flight, connecting to, or from, a Qantas International operated flight. Be sure to have your Qantas Frequent Flyer membership card with you.

 

[sapere_aude]

I have a QANTAS Club Lifetime Membership. But recently noticed an expiry date on the e-card version... no response from them despite several DM on Twitter.

Was told in an international airport that we were flying ‘code share’ so could not use the lounge of China Airlines. But not possible to book that flight with QF number ...

 

[sudoer]

I have a QANTAS Club Lifetime Membership. But recently noticed an expiry date on the e-card version... no response from them despite several DM on Twitter.

This started about 6 months ago: Qantas seems to have announced my death!

Was told in an international airport that we were flying ‘code share’ so could not use the lounge of China Airlines. But not possible to book that flight with QF number ...

I'm a little confused - who was operating the flight and who was marketing it? (what was your flight number?)

 

[whughes3]

Was told in an international airport that we were flying ‘code share’ so could not use the lounge of China Airlines. But not possible to book that flight with QF number ...

That is correct: in destinations served only by codeshares, lounge access is only by class of service. QC or QF/OW status does not qualify. That ias been the case for a long time now.

 

[sapere_aude]

Thanks for replies, guessing that Gold FF = Emerald (/OWE) is only way to go, which might be ‘easier’ if 260 status credits don’t disappear at the end of each year & one has to (re-)start at 000 ...

Lifetime membership not as valuable as I had imagined... and to think I spent all that money in 99 <jk>... methinks Q ought to treat us ‘lifers’ a bit better, maybe time for a petition. Yes, FW problem, I realise.

 

[Kangol]

Thanks for replies, guessing that Gold FF = Emerald (/OWE) is only way to go, which might be ‘easier’ if 260 status credits don’t disappear at the end of each year & one has to (re-)start at 000 ...

Lifetime membership not as valuable as I had imagined... and to think I spent all that money in 99 <jk>... methinks Q ought to treat us ‘lifers’ a bit better, maybe time for a petition. Yes, FW problem, I realise.

Qantas Gold is oneworld sapphire (OWS).

Platinum is oneworld emerald (OWE).

 

[Kremmen]

Here's another:
If you are flying KUL-SIN in J (MH) connecting to SIN-MEL in F (QF), will you be allowed into the MH F lounge?

 

[Matt_01]

Thanks for replies, guessing that Gold FF = Emerald (/OWE) ......

Qantas Gold is oneworld sapphire (OWS).

Platinum is oneworld emerald (OWE).

BA Gold FF is one world emerald (OWE)

 

[serfty]

Here's another:
If you are flying KUL-SIN in J (MH) connecting to SIN-MEL in F (QF), will you be allowed into the MH F lounge?

You should as long as you can prove the connecting oneworld First flight. QF BP is best.

There is nothing in the published rules that this access is valid only at the connecting port.

 

[eminere]

Here's another:
If you are flying KUL-SIN in J (MH) connecting to SIN-MEL in F (QF), will you be allowed into the MH F lounge?

Yes you should be. Per the oneworld rules:

Connecting between oneworld marketed and operated flights:

• First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 6am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa).
• Lounge access will be determined on the international long haul ticketed flight (either First of Business Class) regardless of the ticketed class of travel on the international short haul or domestic flight.
• You must be prepared to show your boarding pass or itinerary showing travel in First or Business class on the international long haul flight, in order to access the lounge before your international short haul or domestic flight.

 

[Kremmen]

You should as long as you can prove the connecting oneworld First flight. QF BP is best.

Trick question. Short answer is no, but eventually yes, if you are very patient. (I had MH-printed boarding passes for both flights.)

Long answer: First lounge agent says no. I pull up OW lounge entry rules on OW web site on my laptop. He reads them. Discusses with another agent. Defers to someone else. That agent reads rules. Gets manager. Manager reads rules through about 4 times on my laptop. (Can't they look these things up themselves?!) Goes away. Comes back and takes a photo of my laptop screen. I am then allowed access.