Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

Sprucegoose · Sep 2, 2010

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For Questions about Aircraft Configuration and Seat Availability, please use this thread:

Understanding [Fare Buckets] Expert Flyer

I'd appreciate some help understanding the information EF provides. For example, F6 A6 J9 C9 D9 I0 B9 H9 K9 M9 R9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0 What letters do I look at to try to work out how many seats are still available in economy? What letters do I look at to try to work out how many...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

See this thread for hints on how to read loadings:

Interpreting and Understanding Expert Flyer

If looking for, say Qantas points upgrades, look for A class for First, mid to high D or any I class for Business and any R for Premium Economy.

Look for the most expensive category of the cabin YOU are currently booked in as being sold out e.g. J0 to first, W0 to Business & Y0 to PE for increased op-up chances. Also, look for availability on the discount premium buckets (A, P, I, D, U, T & Z inventories).

Conversely, look for high numbers in the discount economy buckets (N, O, Q, E & X inventories) for reduced op-up chances.

Seat maps can be a VERY rough guide but note that just because a seat is not showing as allocated does not mean that seat hasn't been sold. Not everyone pre-selects seats.

>>>> END OF ADMIN UPDATE <<<<

Original thread title: update on QF93 on 12 sept

Appreciate it if someone could check EP for loadings.

thnxs

SPRUCE

Davidjseidel · Jul 25, 2014

Awesom Andy said:
Which class? Y looks the lightest on 3/8, W is the lightest on 5/8, J is about the same, F is heavily booked on 5/8.

Thanks very much AwsommAndy! Much appreciated and pardon my ignorance....
I'll be in Economy but hoping to either do paid upgrade or be on the least crowded plane if I'm in economy - dates are open for me between 3 4 or 5/8 Cheers

Davidjseidel · Jul 29, 2014

Looks like 5/8 is the date i have to go now on QF1 syd to London. Does it appear any possibility of paid upgrade Y saver fare to PE?
Thanks!

JohnM · Jul 29, 2014

Davidjseidel said:
Looks like 5/8 is the date i have to go now on QF1 syd to London. Does it appear any possibility of paid upgrade Y saver fare to PE?
Thanks!

I'm not sure whether Y saver is upgradable but make what you can of this:

PE and Bus is looking fairly good, I think.

Omarko_man · Aug 2, 2014

hi all, what are my chances for points upgrade for flight QF147 Sydney to Auckland 3:40pm service ? Trying to upgrade to J , I'm WP. I put in the request this morning.

KVS · Aug 2, 2014

Omarko_man said:
hi all, what are my chances for points upgrade for flight QF147 Sydney to Auckland 3:40pm service ? Trying to upgrade to J , I'm WP. I put in the request this morning.

The C Cabin may be over-booked:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.1/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]

Code:

SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
AKL  Auckland Intl NZ [NZAA]
SAT  02 Aug 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  --------------------------------------------------------
NZ         718     SYD   15:30     AKL   20:35     320      Y7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 V7 W7 T7 L7 S5 G0 X0 K0 P0
VA/NZ      7418    SYD   15:30     AKL   20:35     320      Y4 B4 H4 K4 L4 E4 N4 V4 Q4 T4 S4 M4 U4
QF/##      147     SYD   15:40     AKL   20:50     73H      J5 C4 D2 I1 U0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V7 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X9 E0
MU/QF      8457    SYD   15:40     AKL   20:50     73H      J0 C0 I0 Y4 B4 M4 E4 H4 K4 L4 N4 R4 S4 V4 Z4
NZ         708     SYD   18:40     AKL   23:45     320      Y7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 V7 W7 T7 L7 S6 G0 X0 K0 P0
VA/NZ      7408    SYD   18:40     AKL   23:45     320      Y4 B4 H4 K4 L4 E4 N4 V4 Q4 T4 S4 M4 U4

JohnM · Aug 2, 2014

KVS said:

The C Cabin may be over-booked:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.1/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]

Code:

SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
AKL  Auckland Intl NZ [NZAA]
SAT  02 Aug 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  --------------------------------------------------------
NZ         718     SYD   15:30     AKL   20:35     320      Y7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 V7 W7 T7 L7 S5 G0 X0 K0 P0
VA/NZ      7418    SYD   15:30     AKL   20:35     320      Y4 B4 H4 K4 L4 E4 N4 V4 Q4 T4 S4 M4 U4
QF/##      147     SYD   15:40     AKL   20:50     73H      J5 C4 D2 I1 U0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V7 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X9 E0
MU/QF      8457    SYD   15:40     AKL   20:50     73H      J0 C0 I0 Y4 B4 M4 E4 H4 K4 L4 N4 R4 S4 V4 Z4
NZ         708     SYD   18:40     AKL   23:45     320      Y7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 V7 W7 T7 L7 S6 G0 X0 K0 P0
VA/NZ      7408    SYD   18:40     AKL   23:45     320      Y4 B4 H4 K4 L4 E4 N4 V4 Q4 T4 S4 M4 U4

Could you describe what it is about those numbers that results in that conclusion? Thanks.

Omarko_man · Aug 2, 2014

KVS said:

The C Cabin may be over-booked:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.1/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]

Code:

SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
AKL  Auckland Intl NZ [NZAA]
SAT  02 Aug 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  --------------------------------------------------------
NZ         718     SYD   15:30     AKL   20:35     320      Y7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 V7 W7 T7 L7 S5 G0 X0 K0 P0
VA/NZ      7418    SYD   15:30     AKL   20:35     320      Y4 B4 H4 K4 L4 E4 N4 V4 Q4 T4 S4 M4 U4
QF/##      147     SYD   15:40     AKL   20:50     73H      J5 C4 D2 I1 U0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V7 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X9 E0
MU/QF      8457    SYD   15:40     AKL   20:50     73H      J0 C0 I0 Y4 B4 M4 E4 H4 K4 L4 N4 R4 S4 V4 Z4
NZ         708     SYD   18:40     AKL   23:45     320      Y7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 V7 W7 T7 L7 S6 G0 X0 K0 P0
VA/NZ      7408    SYD   18:40     AKL   23:45     320      Y4 B4 H4 K4 L4 E4 N4 V4 Q4 T4 S4 M4 U4

thanks, sorry I should have said the flight is on Monday 4th August !

KVS · Aug 2, 2014

JohnM said:
Could you describe what it is about those numbers that results in that conclusion? Thanks.

Relatively low availability in C Cabin overall, combined with the MU codeshare that is zeroed-out in all C Classes.

KVS · Aug 2, 2014

Omarko_man said:
thanks, sorry I should have said the flight is on Monday 4th August !

That flight is completely zeroed-out in Business:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.1/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]

Code:

SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
AKL  Auckland Intl NZ [NZAA]
MON  04 Aug 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------
VA/##      144     SYD   10:35     AKL   15:40     73H      W5 R2 O1 Y7 B7 H7 K7 L7 E7 N7 V7 Q0 T0 S7 M0 U0
DL/##      7242    SYD   10:35     AKL   15:40     73H      J0 C0 D0 I0 Z0 W0 Y7 B7 M7 S7 H7 Q7 K7 L7 U0 T0
NZ         704     SYD   11:30     AKL   16:35     320      Y7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 V7 W7 T7 L2 S0 G0 X0 K0 P0
VA/NZ      7404    SYD   11:30     AKL   16:35     320      Y4 B4 H4 K4 L4 E4 N4 V4 Q0 T0 S4 M0 U0
QF/##      145     SYD   11:35     AKL   16:45     73H      J6 C5 D4 I1 U0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q6 O0 G0 X9 E0
BA/##      7421    SYD   11:35     AKL   16:45     73H      J6 C5 D4 R1 I1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 N9 Q6 S9 O0
CI         51      SYD   11:50     AKL   16:50     333      J4 C4 D4 Y7 B7 M7 K7 V7 T7 R7 Q7 H7 N7 X7 L7 S7 G0
HA/##      2811    SYD   11:50     AKL   16:50     333      J7 P7 C7 A7 Y7 W7 X7 Q7 V7 B7 S7 N7 M7 I7 H7 G7 K7 L7 Z7 O7
NZ         718     SYD   15:30     AKL   20:35     320      Y7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 V7 W7 T7 L6 S0 G0 X0 K0 P0
VA/NZ      7418    SYD   15:30     AKL   20:35     320      Y4 B4 H4 K4 L4 E4 N4 V4 Q4 T0 S4 M4 U0
[COLOR="#FF0000"][B]QF/##      147     SYD   15:40     AKL   20:50     73H      J0 C0 D0 I0 U0 Y6 B6 H5 K0 M0 L0 V4 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 X0 E0[/B][/COLOR]
MU/QF      8457    SYD   15:40     AKL   20:50     73H      J0 C0 I0 Y4 B0 M0 E0 H0 K0

JohnM · Aug 2, 2014

KVS said:
Relatively low availability in C Cabin overall, combined with the MU codeshare that is zeroed-out in all C Classes.

Thanks - but why does it suggest over-booking and not just four seats available

(not trying to be a pest - just struggling to know how to maximise interpretation of these sorts of tables

).

KVS · Aug 2, 2014

JohnM said:
Thanks - but why does it suggest over-booking and not just four seats available (not trying to be a pest - just struggling to know how to maximise interpretation of these sorts of tables ).

QF is willing to sell 5 more seats in the Business Cabin, but the flight may be overbooked, which would explain why MU codeshare is zeroed-out.

Omarko_man · Aug 2, 2014

KVS said:
That flight is completely zeroed-out in Business:

bummer, so no upgrade I guess

cove · Aug 9, 2014

Three of our staff booked on QF to LAX in paid Premium Economy were upgraded on points to business class so I was very happy to hear about the upgrades.

KLN · Aug 17, 2014

Afternoon everyone.
just wondering if anyone can look at QF107 loadings for Tuesday 19/8/14 . Sydney - LAX please. daughter and partner flying Y, just wondering how much room there is as he is very tall.
thanks

KLN

Mr_Orange · Aug 17, 2014

KLN said:
Afternoon everyone.
just wondering if anyone can look at QF107 loadings for Tuesday 19/8/14 . Sydney - LAX please. daughter and partner flying Y, just wondering how much room there is as he is very tall.
thanks

KLN

Easy to check yourself via Flightstats: FlightStats | Flight Airline Seat Availability

Fare Classes:

[TD="class: availSeatsLabel"]

[/TD]
[TD="class: availSeatsValue cabinValue"][/TD]
[TD="class: availSeatsLabel"][/TD]
[TD="class: availSeatsValue cabinValue"]J/9 C/9 D/9 I/7 U/0 [/TD]
[TD="class: availSeatsLabel"][/TD]
[TD="class: availSeatsValue cabinValue"]W/9 R/9 T/0 Z/0 Y/9 B/9 H/9 K/9 M/7 L/1 V/0 S/0 N/0 Q/0 O/0 G/0 X/0 E/0 [/TD]

defurax · Aug 17, 2014

KLN said:
Afternoon everyone.
just wondering if anyone can look at QF107 loadings for Tuesday 19/8/14 . Sydney - LAX please. daughter and partner flying Y, just wondering how much room there is as he is very tall.
thanks

KLN

J9 C9 D9 I7 U0 W9 R9 T0 Z0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M7 L1 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 X0 E0

So not full, but not empty either. Only way to get guaranteed extra leg room on the 744 is to pay for exit row, there's no equivalent to 71D and 80A/K as in the 388.

KLN · Aug 17, 2014

thanks everyone!

cove · Aug 17, 2014

We paid for 5 premium economy seats and 3 were upgraded from MEL to LAX using points on QF.
No upgrade gods from Sydney nor Brisbane and all 5 are flying home tomorrow so we will see how they go.

ADLhighflyer · Aug 22, 2014

Hi All, travelling on QF7 SYD-DFW on 6/9. Loadings look like J/3 C/0 D/0 I/0 U/0 W/0 R/0 T/0 Z/0 Y/9 B/9 H/9 K/1 M/0 L/0 V/0 S/0 N/0 Q/0 O/0 G/0 X/0 E/0. I'm assuming I can kiss goodbye any chance of an upgrade (Booked in Y)? Are these flights always full?

defurax · Aug 22, 2014

ADLhighflyer said:
Hi All, travelling on QF7 SYD-DFW on 6/9. Loadings look like J/3 C/0 D/0 I/0 U/0 W/0 R/0 T/0 Z/0 Y/9 B/9 H/9 K/1 M/0 L/0 V/0 S/0 N/0 Q/0 O/0 G/0 X/0 E/0. I'm assuming I can kiss goodbye any chance of an upgrade (Booked in Y)? Are these flights always full?

Considering that QF will increase capacity to the US very soon I think this exemplifies that they are doing really well on transpacific services.

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