Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

[Sprucegoose]

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We have noticed an increase in the posting of questions about seat availability on specific flights. These are all valid questions and we all appreciate the efforts our members go to to provide answers.

The only drawback is that our forums can become "cluttered" with specific questions about availability on specific flights. This tends to reduce the overall usability of our site.
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For Questions about Aircraft Configuration and Seat Availability, please use this thread:​

Understanding [Fare Buckets] Expert Flyer

I'd appreciate some help understanding the information EF provides. For example, F6 A6 J9 C9 D9 I0 B9 H9 K9 M9 R9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0 What letters do I look at to try to work out how many seats are still available in economy? What letters do I look at to try to work out how many...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

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See this thread for hints on how to read loadings:

Interpreting and Understanding Expert Flyer​

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If looking for, say Qantas points upgrades, look for A class for First, mid to high D or any I class for Business and any R for Premium Economy.

Look for the most expensive category of the cabin YOU are currently booked in as being sold out e.g. J0 to first, W0 to Business & Y0 to PE for increased op-up chances. Also, look for availability on the discount premium buckets (A, P, I, D, U, T & Z inventories).

Conversely, look for high numbers in the discount economy buckets (N, O, Q, E & X inventories) for reduced op-up chances.

Seat maps can be a VERY rough guide but note that just because a seat is not showing as allocated does not mean that seat hasn't been sold. Not everyone pre-selects seats.

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Original thread title: update on QF93 on 12 sept

Appreciate it if someone could check EP for loadings.

thnxs

SPRUCE

 

[mviy]

Generally any further out than 10-14 days is only an indicator. It is not until quite close, say 4-7 days out, ie the few days before T-80, that you can gain an idea of likelihood. So in the case of your SFO flight this week, the indicators are good for some upgrades, depending on where pax are in the pecking order. It is still J9, with W down to 1. Upstairs J is very full based on the seat map, but lots of unallocated downstairs (see below).
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Thanks.

So unsurprisingly the best seats are taken already though there's no bad seat in J. As a solo PS traveller I would find out about a day before the flight or when my boarding pass is scanned at the gate if my upgrade is successful, right?

 

[OATEK]

Thanks.

So unsurprisingly the best seats are taken already though there's no bad seat in J. As a solo PS traveller I would find out about a day before the flight or when my boarding pass is scanned at the gate if my upgrade is successful, right?

I think before the gate personally, probably in the last 24 hours, but will be interested to hear how you get on.

 

[go_black]

G'day looking for loads CX100 SYD-HKG next monday 6th June. Thanks heaps!

 

[OATEK]

G'day looking for loads CX100 SYD-HKG next monday 6th June. Thanks heaps!

J9 C4 D8 I2 W3 R0 E0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9

Not quite as busy my flight on CX100 this Friday.

 

[Himeno]

Looking at booking Premium Economy to LAX
outbound
QF11 F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 I0 W3 R2 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K5 M0 L0 G0
QF15 J9 C9 D9 I9 W7 R7 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M0 L0 G0

inbound
QF12 F0 A0 J9 C9 D9 I9 W9 R9 T9 Y9 B7 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 G0 X6
QF16 J8 C8 D8 I8 W9 R9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M5 L0 G0

Which is more likely for a points upgrade into business?

 

[mviy]

Looking at booking Premium Economy to LAX

Well F availability on the outbound flight is probably a help as some J pax may upgrade to F which could open up some more J seats for potential upgrades. J upgrades to F may also open up some good seats in J so you may be able to get a better seat if you get the upgrade to J than on a plane that doesn't have F. On the other hand QF11 is sold out of I class so probably has less J seats currently available than the inbound flight QF12 which is sold out of first class.

You may also wish to have a look at the seat maps to see which seats have been chosen. How far out are the flights?

 

[Himeno]

How far out are the flights?

Thur-Mon, July 4 weekend.

 

[mviy]

Well Oatek pointed out that an earlier than 10-14 days before the flight the loadings are only an indicator. They could change due to purchases closer to the flight time.

 

[JohnK]

Can someone please help with the loadings on these flights. Have put in some cheap upgrade bids.

Saturday 11 June 2016 RJ182 BKK-HKG
Sunday 12 June 2016 RJ183 HKG-BKK
Thursday 16 June 2016 UL890 BKK-HKG

 

[Steady]

Saturday 11 June 2016 RJ182 BKK-HKG J9 ZC C5 D4 I3 Y9 B9 PL H9 WL K9 RL M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 QC OC
Sunday 12 June 2016 RJ183 HKG-BKK J9 ZC C3 D4 I3 Y9 B9 PL H9 WL K9 RL M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
Thursday 16 June 2016 UL890 BKK-HKG J9 ZC C4 D4 I3 Y9 B9 PL H9 WL K9 RL M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9

 

[JohnK]

Thanks steady!

Those 3 flights look wide open. My USD95 and USD100 bids to upgrade to business have half a chance.

 

[Quickstatus]

Can someone please help with the loadings on these flights. Have put in some cheap upgrade bids.

Saturday 11 June 2016 RJ182 BKK-HKG
Sunday 12 June 2016 RJ183 HKG-BKK
Thursday 16 June 2016 UL890 BKK-HKG

How much of a premium above minimum did you bid?

 

[JohnK]

How much of a premium above minimum did you bid?

I bid just below recommended minimum but still made sure I was just in the "Fair" band. Has worked other times so see how we go this time.

If my upgrade bid fails JessicaTam and mickeyc747 are in business for one of the flights and they will throw some crumbs back to row 6.

 

[Quickstatus]

they will throw some crumbs back to row 6.

Is that an expectation?

 

[JohnK]

Is that an expectation?

That they will throw some crumbs back to me in row? Who knows. Not sure food is going to be on the mind after spending a whole day in the HKG lounge crawl. I fully expect to sit in row 6 and if upgrade bid comes through all the better.

 

[mviy]

I think before the gate personally, probably in the last 24 hours, but will be interested to hear how you get on.

Upgrade confirmed at T29(?) - would the notification be early because that wasn't long before checkin opened for the connecting domestic flight? Got an aisle seat in the middle section of the middle cabin on the lower deck. Hope there's no one seated in the middle seat.

When I booked the flight and applied for the upgrade I was a NB, but thanks to a status run I was PS before the upgrade came through.

 

[Steady]

Some good news mviy - congrats

 

[mviy]

Thanks

Looking at the seat map for tomorrow's flight on ExpertFlyer (I can't see loadings as I don't have a subscription but it looks the seating allocation looks pretty full now that upgrades have come in) it looks like the seat next to me is blocked. Hopefully that sticks and there won't be anyone in the middle seat trying to clamber over me, but even if there is it will still be much nicer to be able to lie flat than not.

I will be SG after this flight, but even as a SG I suspect I have what is probably a tougher request for coming home QF74 Sunday June 12 SFO-SYD. Though that is the night before WWDC starts so hopefully that's not as popular a flight as it might otherwise be. Hmmm the ExpertFlyer seat map suggests maybe only 6(?) seats free so I think I don't have much of a chance. I'm guessing I probably would need an unlikely no show and upgrade at the gate on this one.

 

[OATEK]

Thanks

Looking at the seat map for tomorrow's flight on ExpertFlyer (I can't see loadings as I don't have a subscription but it looks the seating allocation looks pretty full now that upgrades have come in) it looks like the seat next to me is blocked. Hopefully that sticks and there won't be anyone in the middle seat trying to clamber over me, but even if there is it will still be much nicer to be able to lie flat than not.

I will be SG after this flight, but even as a SG I suspect I have what is probably a tougher request for coming home QF74 Sunday June 12 SFO-SYD. Though that is the night before WWDC starts so hopefully that's not as popular a flight as it might otherwise be. Hmmm the ExpertFlyer seat map suggests maybe only 6(?) seats free so I think I don't have much of a chance. I'm guessing I probably would need an unlikely no show and upgrade at the gate on this one.

Generally, unless the seat next to you shows as blocked, then you won't know right up until the doors close whether you will have a neighbour. The return flight on 12/6 also looks quite open:

J9 C9 D9 I9 W9 R9 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 G0

 

[mviy]

Generally, unless the seat next to you shows as blocked, then you won't know right up until the doors close whether you will have a neighbour.

In ExpertFlyer the seat next to me shows as blocked but then it also showed seats as being available to pick that weren't, so the ExpertFlyer seat map doesn't look reliable. For online check in there was no option to choose any other seat than what was allocated to me.

The return flight on 12/6 also looks quite open:

J9 C9 D9 I9 W9 R9 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 G0

Ah, nice. Thanks. I forgot I would only see seats in Expert Flyer that my PS status would let someone flying J choose at this stage.