Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

[Sprucegoose]

PLEASE INCLUDE DATE, FLIGHT NUMBER, ORIGIN & DESTINATION IN ALL REQUESTS

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Background to this thread
We have noticed an increase in the posting of questions about seat availability on specific flights. These are all valid questions and we all appreciate the efforts our members go to to provide answers.

The only drawback is that our forums can become "cluttered" with specific questions about availability on specific flights. This tends to reduce the overall usability of our site.
We have therefore created this new consolidated thread where you can ask questions about seat availability on specific flights. Hopefully, this will reduce clutter and improve useability.

Guidelines for posting in this thread
Please post questions about availability of specific flights or upgrade probability in this new consolidated thread. Be sure to include the airline, flight number, date, origin and destination and any other relevant detail.

When answering questions, please include the original question. This will assist in readability and management of the thread.

Thanks!

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For Questions about Aircraft Configuration and Seat Availability, please use this thread:​

Understanding [Fare Buckets] Expert Flyer

I'd appreciate some help understanding the information EF provides. For example, F6 A6 J9 C9 D9 I0 B9 H9 K9 M9 R9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0 What letters do I look at to try to work out how many seats are still available in economy? What letters do I look at to try to work out how many...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

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See this thread for hints on how to read loadings:

Interpreting and Understanding Expert Flyer​

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If looking for, say Qantas points upgrades, look for A class for First, mid to high D or any I class for Business and any R for Premium Economy.

Look for the most expensive category of the cabin YOU are currently booked in as being sold out e.g. J0 to first, W0 to Business & Y0 to PE for increased op-up chances. Also, look for availability on the discount premium buckets (A, P, I, D, U, T & Z inventories).

Conversely, look for high numbers in the discount economy buckets (N, O, Q, E & X inventories) for reduced op-up chances.

Seat maps can be a VERY rough guide but note that just because a seat is not showing as allocated does not mean that seat hasn't been sold. Not everyone pre-selects seats.

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Original thread title: update on QF93 on 12 sept

Appreciate it if someone could check EP for loadings.

thnxs

SPRUCE

 

[JessicaTam]

That they will throw some crumbs back to me in row? Who knows. Not sure food is going to be on the mind after spending a whole day in the HKG lounge crawl. I fully expect to sit in row 6 and if upgrade bid comes through all the better.

Don't worry JohnK, we'll look after you!

 

[mviy]

What are the loadings for QF74 from SFO to SYD on June 12 like?

 

[Quickstatus]

What are the loadings for QF74 from SFO to SYD on June 12 like?

which cabin are you in?

 

[mviy]

View attachment 72531

which cabin are you in?

Thanks. I'm in the Y+ cabin hoping for a points upgrade to J.

 

[Quickstatus]

Here are the seat maps (WP):

 

[mviy]

Thanks. So what would that suggest about the points upgrade probability for SG?

 

[Quickstatus]

Thanks. So what would that suggest about the points upgrade probability for SG?

Upgrade probability for SG will be less than WP. However very hard to quantify based on seat loading as loadings will be the same across all tier status

To answer that you need the number of passengers with higher status than SG etc etc

It is possible to look at the number of occupied premium seats in Y+ as these are usually occupied by high tier status pax.

 

[JohnK]

Can someone please help with the loadings on these flights.

Saturday 11 June 2016 RJ182 BKK-HKG
Sunday 12 June 2016 RJ183 HKG-BKK

 

[kermatu]

Can someone please help with the loadings on these flights.

Saturday 11 June 2016 RJ182 BKK-HKG
Sunday 12 June 2016 RJ183 HKG-BKK

I may be doing something wrong, but all I'm getting on EF for these flights is 'contact the airline'. Never seen that before

 

[Quickstatus]

Can someone please help with the loadings on these flights.

Saturday 11 June 2016 RJ182 BKK-HKG
Sunday 12 June 2016 RJ183 HKG-BKK

Sure:

 

[mviy]

Upgrade probability for SG will be less than WP. However very hard to quantify based on seat loading as loadings will be the same across all tier status

To answer that you need the number of passengers with higher status than SG etc etc

It is possible to look at the number of occupied premium seats in Y+ as these are usually occupied by high tier status pax.

Thanks. Hmmm doing a free look at ExpertFlyer it seems there has been an equipment change to an older 747 with the first class seats in the nose.

As a SG if I get an upgrade (not sure what the loadings are like now except I can't change seats in PE now so I'm guessing that may be full) I'm guessing I won't be in that section.

Which Skybed seats are in the main business cabins. Are they the Skybed Mark II and if not, how do they compare?

 

[Quickstatus]

Thanks. Hmmm doing a free look at ExpertFlyer it seems there has been an equipment change to an older 747 with the first class seats in the nose.

As a SG if I get an upgrade (not sure what the loadings are like now except I can't change seats in PE now so I'm guessing that may be full) I'm guessing I won't be in that section.

Which Skybed seats are in the main business cabins. Are they the Skybed Mark II and if not, how do they compare?

Mark I. Not much different to Mark II, just a bit closer in pitch and therefore does not go horizontal. Still a good product and still worth the upgrade.

 

[nicky286]

SYD - AKL - 2 JUL 2016
QF 143 9.55 AM - 3.00PM

2 PASSENGERS

NO status upgrade using point. Im very old, what the likelihood to get business upgrade?

Thank you in Advance

 

[pjm99au]

SYD - AKL - 2 JUL 2016
QF 143 9.55 AM - 3.00PM

2 PASSENGERS

NO status upgrade using point. Im very old, what the likelihood to get business upgrade?

Thank you in Advance

Currently J2. Not looking good

 

[JohnK]

Sure:

View attachment 72555View attachment 72556

Upgrade on RJ182 for USD95 came through this morning. It'd be nice if upgrade on RJ183 for USD100 also comes through.

 

[Quickstatus]

Didn't know you could buy an Intra Asia RJ ticket!. Thx for the tip!

JohnK, Without hindsight, what did you think your chances were in snagging an upgrade after seeing the cabin class fare loadings?

 

[JohnK]

Didn't know you could buy an Intra Asia RJ ticket!. Thx for the tip!

JohnK, Without hindsight, what did you think your chances were in snagging an upgrade after seeing the cabin class fare loadings?

Very good. I offer less each time and they appear to accept the offer as cabin is not usually full between BKK and HKG. Thursday will be interesting with UL and those loadings look light too.

Business class SCs will be a bonus.

 

[Quickstatus]

How do you get J SC via upgrade?

 

[JohnK]

How do you get J SC via upgrade?

The booking class changes. Or at least it has in the past.

Scratch that. Looks like they have fixed the glitch. Upgraded flights showing U class so could struggle to get original SCs and points.

 

[mviy]

Mark I. Not much different to Mark II, just a bit closer in pitch and therefore does not go horizontal. Still a good product and still worth the upgrade.

Just got my upgrade. Sadly no seats in the lower deck "first class" nose section.

Is 16B in emergency exit on the upper deck good? Does this have good leg room?

Ah, I found the answer here. I will stick with the change I made to select this seat.