Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

[Sprucegoose]

PLEASE INCLUDE DATE, FLIGHT NUMBER, ORIGIN & DESTINATION IN ALL REQUESTS

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Background to this thread
We have noticed an increase in the posting of questions about seat availability on specific flights. These are all valid questions and we all appreciate the efforts our members go to to provide answers.

The only drawback is that our forums can become "cluttered" with specific questions about availability on specific flights. This tends to reduce the overall usability of our site.
We have therefore created this new consolidated thread where you can ask questions about seat availability on specific flights. Hopefully, this will reduce clutter and improve useability.

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Please post questions about availability of specific flights or upgrade probability in this new consolidated thread. Be sure to include the airline, flight number, date, origin and destination and any other relevant detail.

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For Questions about Aircraft Configuration and Seat Availability, please use this thread:​

Understanding [Fare Buckets] Expert Flyer

I'd appreciate some help understanding the information EF provides. For example, F6 A6 J9 C9 D9 I0 B9 H9 K9 M9 R9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0 What letters do I look at to try to work out how many seats are still available in economy? What letters do I look at to try to work out how many...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

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See this thread for hints on how to read loadings:

Interpreting and Understanding Expert Flyer​

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If looking for, say Qantas points upgrades, look for A class for First, mid to high D or any I class for Business and any R for Premium Economy.

Look for the most expensive category of the cabin YOU are currently booked in as being sold out e.g. J0 to first, W0 to Business & Y0 to PE for increased op-up chances. Also, look for availability on the discount premium buckets (A, P, I, D, U, T & Z inventories).

Conversely, look for high numbers in the discount economy buckets (N, O, Q, E & X inventories) for reduced op-up chances.

Seat maps can be a VERY rough guide but note that just because a seat is not showing as allocated does not mean that seat hasn't been sold. Not everyone pre-selects seats.

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Original thread title: update on QF93 on 12 sept

Appreciate it if someone could check EP for loadings.

thnxs

SPRUCE

 

[bxs]

SYD to DFW Oct 2011.

Hi,

First time user here so can anyone please offer advise which of the following dates gives me the best probability for an UG using points? (Heard that it is almost impossible these days to get an op-ug?)

Syd to DFW 27,28 or 29 Oct 2011
DFW to Syd 11,12 or 13 Oct 2011

looking to fly in PE and currently QFF Gold.

Any help is appreciated.

 

[GoTheCats]

Need to know what is the load on QF 52 from BOM to SIN on 14/09/11 and QF 10 fom SIN to MEL on 14/10/11

I have not heared anything on the upgrade request

Appreciate any ones help on this

 

[ellen10]

We are flying on QF 5 to Frankfurt on Sunday 18/9. We have a request for an upgrade from Economy to Premium Economy. Can anyone tell me my chances. Are there full loads.

Thanks in anticipation

 

[serfty]

Hi,

First time user here so can anyone please offer advise which of the following dates gives me the best probability for an UG using points? (Heard that it is almost impossible these days to get an op-ug?)

Syd to DFW 27,28 or 29 Oct 2011
DFW to Syd 11,12 or 13 Oct 2011

looking to fly in PE and currently QFF Gold.

Any help is appreciated.

Welcome to AFF!

Need to know what is the load on QF 52 from BOM to SIN on 14/09/11 and QF 10 fom SIN to MEL on 14/10/11
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We are flying on QF 5 to Frankfurt on Sunday 18/9. We have a request for an upgrade from Economy to Premium Economy. Can anyone tell me my chances. Are there full loads.

Thanks in anticipation

Please all check the TIP in post #1 of this thread.

Then refer to this thread for clues on what to look for:

• http://www.australianfrequentflyer....scussion/understanding-expert-flyer-9314.html

 

[Alanslegal]

And here's my (beginner) interpretation:-

First time user here so can anyone please offer advise which of the following dates gives me the best probability for an UG using points?

Syd to DFW 27,28 or 29 Oct 2011
DFW to Syd 11,12 or 13 Oct 2011

Welcome to AFF bxs

For the outbound, are you meaning a departure in September (given the return is in October).

If yes, 28/9 shows J9 C9 D9 I9 which (to me) thinks there is a good chance of a points upgrade. At the back is relatively empty so chances of op-up are slim (W9 R9 R5 T3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L1 V8 S6 N1 G0 E0).

For the inbound, 12/10 shows J9 C9 D9 I3 which (to me) thinks there is a good chance of a points upgrade. At the back shows W4 R1 T0 Y9 B0 H0 K1 M0 L0 G0 E0 so looks much fuller in that instance. That said, the inbound is around a month away so alot of things/changes could happen between now and then.

Good luck.

Need to know what is the load on QF 52 from BOM to SIN on 14/09/11 and QF 10 fom SIN to MEL on 14/10/11

I have not heared anything on the upgrade request

Appreciate any ones help on this

QF52 shows J9 C9 D9 I9 and most economy buckets are also 9's including X9 (awards). Very light load imo so depending on your status, there is a very good chance of a points upgrade.

QF10 shows F2 A2 P0 J9 C9 D9 I9 and economy looks pretty full. Good chance of a points upgrade.

We are flying on QF 5 to Frankfurt on Sunday 18/9. We have a request for an upgrade from Economy to Premium Economy. Can anyone tell me my chances. Are there full loads.

Thanks in anticipation

You might be stuck in economy, QF5 shows J4 3 D3 I3 W0 R0 T0, so Premium Economy is full at this stage (pending upgrades/cancellations).

 

[GoTheCats]

And here's my (beginner) interpretation:-






QF52 shows J9 C9 D9 I9 and most economy buckets are also 9's including X9 (awards). Very light load imo so depending on your status, there is a very good chance of a points upgrade.

QF10 shows F2 A2 P0 J9 C9 D9 I9 and economy looks pretty full. Good chance of a points upgrade.

Thanks for the info. It looks like that there will be lots of empty seats on QF 52. On QF 10 i am in Y+. Can you see if that is full or not? If it is i am hoping that they can bump to to J. This is what happened last week on QF 9

 

[ellen10]

Thanks for the information.

Alanslegal thanks for your reply. Who would have known lots of people flying to Frankfurt!!

At least we have 71A & B, a set of 2 seats.

And best of all I'm on holidays for 6 weeks!!

 

[bxs]

And here's my (beginner) interpretation:-



Welcome to AFF bxs

For the outbound, are you meaning a departure in September (given the return is in October).

If yes, 28/9 shows J9 C9 D9 I9 which (to me) thinks there is a good chance of a points upgrade. At the back is relatively empty so chances of op-up are slim (W9 R9 R5 T3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L1 V8 S6 N1 G0 E0).

For the inbound, 12/10 shows J9 C9 D9 I3 which (to me) thinks there is a good chance of a points upgrade. At the back shows W4 R1 T0 Y9 B0 H0 K1 M0 L0 G0 E0 so looks much fuller in that instance. That said, the inbound is around a month away so alot of things/changes could happen between now and then.

Good luck.

Thanks. Much appreciated and time to get those flights booked.

 

[drex]

Hi Guys,

Can I please have seat availability for:

CX830 - HKG - JFK
2nd March 2012 and 4th March 2012

Many thanks, Ben

 

[serfty]

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CX830 - HKG - JFK
2nd March 2012 and 4th March 2012

You can do this yourself - see tip in post #1.

Flight Availability Search
Departing HKG on 03/03/12 12:00 AM ± 1 Day(s) for JFK
Flying CX  
                                                                     Frequency
CX 830        0      HKG                JFK                773       Daily           F4 A4 J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S8 N9 Q9 O9 
                     02/03/12 9:35 AM   02/03/12 12:10 PM            65% / 29m
CX 830        0      HKG                JFK                773       Daily           F4 A4 J9 C9 D9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V0 S0 N6 Q9 O9 
                     04/03/12 9:35 AM   04/03/12 12:10 PM            65% / 29m

 

[drex]

You can do this yourself - see tip in post #1.

Thanks very much Serfty.

I'm looking at flying Business on points which from what I understand is U class (which isn't listed). Is there a way to check availability besides making a booking on the site?

 

[serfty]

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I'm looking at flying Business on points which from what I understand is U class (which isn't listed). Is there a way to check availability besides making a booking on the site?

U class is certainly award business class on QF flights. E/F will show this if there is availability on QF flight searches.

However, with the CX flights you'll need to call QFF and ask.

 

[Nam Taf]

Hi there,

May I please get the upgrade chance for a gold FF and partner from plat economy to business on QF01 and QF31 for 29/9?

Cheers!

 

[steveward]

Hi all

I have never used my points to arrange an upgrade. Is there any expert with advice on what the most cost-effective strategy is - both in terms of $ and points. More specifically, if Im trying to get my wife from SYD to LHR and back in Jan by buying an economy seat and then upgrading with points. How do i best do that and what are the caveats? Thanks in advance, Steve

 

[fellb]

Does anyone have the latest "circle asia" prices for One World for 13,000 and 17,000 miles, please. Would like econ and business.

Many thanks in anticipation

 

[ozmille]

Hi all

I have never used my points to arrange an upgrade. Is there any expert with advice on what the most cost-effective strategy is - both in terms of $ and points. More specifically, if Im trying to get my wife from SYD to LHR and back in Jan by buying an economy seat and then upgrading with points. How do i best do that and what are the caveats? Thanks in advance, Steve

Hi Steve,

the problem with this is that the upgradeable fares are more expensive and that upgrades are not confirmed. It is just a lottery which depends on frequent flyer status (CL, WP, PS and NB) and offcourse loadings.

 

[steveward]

so its not like US airlines where you can get a guaranteed upgrade in advance...?

 

[ozmille]

so its not like US airlines where you can get a guaranteed upgrade in advance...?

no, unfortunately not. The way it works here is that you apply for the upgrade months in advance and then just before departure you find out if the request was successful or not. Not a nice system in my opinion but that's it.

 

[steveward]

any advice on what is the cheapest fare to buy that might (in theory) be upgradeable?

 

[ozmille]

any advice on what is the cheapest fare to buy that might (in theory) be upgradeable?

you can not upgrade E, N, O or Q fares which are the cheapest tickets. From S class (classed as discount economy) you can upgrade to either premium Y or J. I think the S class fare starts at round 2400 + tax depending on when travel is for and off-course availability of the booking class...