Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

[Sprucegoose]

PLEASE INCLUDE DATE, FLIGHT NUMBER, ORIGIN & DESTINATION IN ALL REQUESTS

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Background to this thread
We have noticed an increase in the posting of questions about seat availability on specific flights. These are all valid questions and we all appreciate the efforts our members go to to provide answers.

The only drawback is that our forums can become "cluttered" with specific questions about availability on specific flights. This tends to reduce the overall usability of our site.
We have therefore created this new consolidated thread where you can ask questions about seat availability on specific flights. Hopefully, this will reduce clutter and improve useability.

Guidelines for posting in this thread
Please post questions about availability of specific flights or upgrade probability in this new consolidated thread. Be sure to include the airline, flight number, date, origin and destination and any other relevant detail.

When answering questions, please include the original question. This will assist in readability and management of the thread.

Thanks!

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For Questions about Aircraft Configuration and Seat Availability, please use this thread:​

Understanding [Fare Buckets] Expert Flyer

I'd appreciate some help understanding the information EF provides. For example, F6 A6 J9 C9 D9 I0 B9 H9 K9 M9 R9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0 What letters do I look at to try to work out how many seats are still available in economy? What letters do I look at to try to work out how many...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

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See this thread for hints on how to read loadings:

Interpreting and Understanding Expert Flyer​

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If looking for, say Qantas points upgrades, look for A class for First, mid to high D or any I class for Business and any R for Premium Economy.

Look for the most expensive category of the cabin YOU are currently booked in as being sold out e.g. J0 to first, W0 to Business & Y0 to PE for increased op-up chances. Also, look for availability on the discount premium buckets (A, P, I, D, U, T & Z inventories).

Conversely, look for high numbers in the discount economy buckets (N, O, Q, E & X inventories) for reduced op-up chances.

Seat maps can be a VERY rough guide but note that just because a seat is not showing as allocated does not mean that seat hasn't been sold. Not everyone pre-selects seats.

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Original thread title: update on QF93 on 12 sept

Appreciate it if someone could check EP for loadings.

thnxs

SPRUCE

 

[levelnine]

• Is it sensible for me to wait a couple of days to see if classic award availability opens up (i.e. after the QF Australia sale goes away)? If so, how long should I wait before I book something else?
• At present I see I could book the above itinerary for ~70,000 points as a pure points (i.e. non-classic) redemption. This doesn't seem like a particularly good use of points as the flights could be booked right now for ~$400 cash. Is my calculation correct here?
• An option I am considering is to simply have her fly Virgin flights departing at roughly the same time as there's plenty of classic economy award availability there.

Qantas tend not to release more award availability closer in. There are some exceptions (they were doing a bit of it on their international flights in early Feb), but they aren't like other airlines that routinely release a lot of close-in awards. That's especially the case with domestic flights, because late bookers tend to be business travellers, who are able to pay higher, not lower, prices.

You're correct that points plus pay is a terrible redemption. I wouldn't redeem 70K points for $400.

Can both of you fly on Virgin if there's plenty of availability?

 

[kangarooflyer88]

Can both of you fly on Virgin if there's plenty of availability?

There's a couple of issues I have with going the Virgin route all the way through:

• Qantas has the latest departure time out of SYD for HBA @ 19:20 versus 17:50 for Virgin which for both of us just makes the most sense
• The pain (and expense) of having to cancel my BA Avios award for the outbound segment

I'm now thinking of maybe buying the QF outbound as a cash fare then using Virgin points to bring myself and my partner back to SYD which given the on time performance of JQ may be a sensible option.

-RooFlyer88

 

[jijsax]

Looking for availability for 1k sin>Syd 23rd April

 

[kangarooflyer88]

Looking for availability for 1k sin>Syd 23rd April

Are you referring to business class (i.e. J)?

In any event, here are the current loadings per ExpertFlyer on that date for that route:


To get a classic business award you need to have U be a positive value (i.e. greater than 0) which we can clearly see is not the case for either flight. The earlier flight on the A380 is show J9 C9, D0, I0 which means there are at least 9 tickets available as a full fare business ticket, 9 tickets currently available as a slightly discounted Clipper Class business class ticket, but no discount business class tickets available (D0, I0). It's a similar story for QF82 as well. In terms of likelihood QF releases classic award space, it's possible, but I wouldn't place a bet on it.

-RooFlyer88

 

[jijsax]

Are you referring to business class (i.e. J)?

In any event, here are the current loadings per ExpertFlyer on that date for that route:
View attachment 317947

To get a classic business award you need to have U be a positive value (i.e. greater than 0) which we can clearly see is not the case for either flight. The earlier flight on the A380 is show J9 C9, D0, I0 which means there are at least 9 tickets available as a full fare business ticket, 9 tickets currently available as a slightly discounted Clipper Class business class ticket, but no discount business class tickets available (D0, I0). It's a similar story for QF82 as well. In terms of likelihood QF releases classic award space, it's possible, but I wouldn't place a bet on it.

-RooFlyer88

Thanks RooFlyer!
Actually, looking to upgrade from J to A. I'm on bronze so not seeing much hope on qf2.

 

[marks]

Hi Team,

Could I get an update on these SIN-BNE on SQ
Fri 10 Mar - SQ 235
Sat 11 Mar - SQ 255

 

[dairyfloss]

Hi Team,

Could I get an update on these SIN-BNE on SQ
Fri 10 Mar - SQ 235
Sat 11 Mar - SQ 255

Here you go - this is what's happening on those two days - it don't look too good I'm afraid:

Cheers,
Matt.

 

[johndoe]

Hi again all

Could I please get loadings for NZ125, AKL-MEL Sunday 5th March.

Thanks

 

[OATEK]

Hi again all

Could I please get loadings for NZ125, AKL-MEL Sunday 5th March.

Thanks

Looks busy:
C1 D1 Z1 J0 U1 E0 O0 A0 Y7 B7 M7 H0 Q0 V0 W0 T0 L0 S0 G0 X0 K0 P0

 

[johndoe]

Looks busy:
C1 D1 Z1 J0 U1 E0 O0 A0 Y7 B7 M7 H0 Q0 V0 W0 T0 L0 S0 G0 X0 K0 P0

Thanks Oatek. Looks very busy…just hope for an empty seat next to me in economy I guess haha!

 

[robbo755]

Hi all

Could I please get loadings for QF80 (hnd-mel) on 2nd Sept and 4 Sept 2023.

Thankyou!

 

[dairyfloss]

Hi all

Could I please get loadings for QF80 (hnd-mel) on 2nd Sept and 4 Sept 2023.

Thankyou!

Here you are - looking pretty open. You could even book a business award on the 2nd Sep:


Cheers,
Matt.

 

[Keasm]

Good afternoon
I'm hoping to confirm loadings for the following dates:

Syd - Tokyo (Haneda) 3 Jan 2024 QF25
Tokyo (Haneda) - Sydney 10 Jan 2024 QF26
Tokyo (Haneda) - Melb 3 Feb 2024 QF80

Cheers Dave

 

[pjm99au]

QF 25

SYD 9:35p → HND 5:25a J9 C9 D0 I0 U0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 X0 E0

QF 26

HND 10:00p → SYD 9:50a J9 C9 D0 I0 U0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 X0 E0

QF 80

HND 9:05p → MEL 9:30a J9 C4 D0 I0 U0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 X0 E0

 

[mx838383]

Hi can I please get loadings for:
1) QF 25 Sydney (SYD) to Haneda (HND) on 4th of September 2023.
2) QF79 Melb (MEL) to Haneda (HND) on 3rd of September 2023.

Thanks in advance!

 

[pjm99au]

QF 25

SYD 8:20p → HND 5:25a J9 C9 D6 I0 U0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q0 O0 G0 X0 E0

QF 79

MEL 10:30a → HND 8:00p J9 C6 D1 I0 U0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X0 E0

 

[mx838383]

QF 25

SYD 8:20p → HND 5:25a J9 C9 D6 I0 U0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q0 O0 G0 X0 E0

QF 79

MEL 10:30a → HND 8:00p J9 C6 D1 I0 U0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X0 E0

Thank you !

 

[Michael Smith]

Hi Team,

I would appreciate the loadings for QF63 Syd -Jhb on Friday 17 March.

Thank you

 

[JohnM]

Hi Team,

I would appreciate the loadings for QF63 Syd -Jhb on Friday 17 March.

Thank you

Here you go:

 

[Michael Smith]

Here you go:

View attachment 318421

Thanks for the quick response