Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

[Sprucegoose]

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Background to this thread
We have noticed an increase in the posting of questions about seat availability on specific flights. These are all valid questions and we all appreciate the efforts our members go to to provide answers.

The only drawback is that our forums can become "cluttered" with specific questions about availability on specific flights. This tends to reduce the overall usability of our site.
We have therefore created this new consolidated thread where you can ask questions about seat availability on specific flights. Hopefully, this will reduce clutter and improve useability.

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Please post questions about availability of specific flights or upgrade probability in this new consolidated thread. Be sure to include the airline, flight number, date, origin and destination and any other relevant detail.

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Thanks!

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For Questions about Aircraft Configuration and Seat Availability, please use this thread:​

Understanding [Fare Buckets] Expert Flyer

I'd appreciate some help understanding the information EF provides. For example, F6 A6 J9 C9 D9 I0 B9 H9 K9 M9 R9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0 What letters do I look at to try to work out how many seats are still available in economy? What letters do I look at to try to work out how many...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

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See this thread for hints on how to read loadings:

Interpreting and Understanding Expert Flyer​

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If looking for, say Qantas points upgrades, look for A class for First, mid to high D or any I class for Business and any R for Premium Economy.

Look for the most expensive category of the cabin YOU are currently booked in as being sold out e.g. J0 to first, W0 to Business & Y0 to PE for increased op-up chances. Also, look for availability on the discount premium buckets (A, P, I, D, U, T & Z inventories).

Conversely, look for high numbers in the discount economy buckets (N, O, Q, E & X inventories) for reduced op-up chances.

Seat maps can be a VERY rough guide but note that just because a seat is not showing as allocated does not mean that seat hasn't been sold. Not everyone pre-selects seats.

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Original thread title: update on QF93 on 12 sept

Appreciate it if someone could check EP for loadings.

thnxs

SPRUCE

 

[Happy Trails]

Umm....stupid me again! What on earth do those numbers mean for me, am I likely to be squished to death with other passengers in Premium Economy, or is it possible I will get some space and possibly even some sleep...?

W6 & W7 mean 6 and 7 PE seats available for sale on the respective flights, so yes, fairly full PE cabins.

 

[Isabelt28]

Boo hiss! Thank you for your help though.

 

[reubenhills]

Re: y+ to J

Yes was a success

thanks

 

[reubenhills]

Re: y+ to J

Hi there
I was hoping someone could assist me on the probability of an upgrade on QF 12 Sat 18 from Prem economy to business
I am a Gold
thanks in advance

 

[Happy Trails]

Re: y+ to J

Hi there
I was hoping someone could assist me on the probability of an upgrade on QF 12 Sat 18 from Prem economy to business
I am a Gold
thanks in advance

Here are the numbers, not too promising I would think but never say die.
F3 A0 P0 J8 C6 D0 I0 U0 W5 R4 T0 Y9B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X9E0

 

[Ansett]

Re: y+ to J

Hi

Can anyone give us an update on QF35 on Friday 17th as to how full it is and op up chances please

Many thanks

 

[Happy Trails]

Re: y+ to J

Hi

Can anyone give us an update on QF35 on Friday 17th as to how full it is and op up chances please

Many thanks

X9 suggests not too full in Y:
J9 C9 D9 I9 U0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9S9 N9 G0 X9 E0

 

[reubenhills]

Re: y+ to J

Hi there

just trying to decipher this from EE

Looking for a probable upgrade from prem to bus & I am QF gold
This flight is for 19 May


QF 12 LAX 10:10p → SYD 6:10a
F2 A1 P0 J9 C9 D9 I9 W9 R9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X9 E0

Thanks in advance

 

[serfty]

Re: y+ to J

...
QF 12 LAX 10:10p → SYD 6:10a
F2 A1 P0 J9 C9 D9 I9 W9 R9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X9 E0

Thanks in advance

I9 is very comforting ... see post #1 here for why ...

 

[reubenhills]

Re: y+ to J

I9 is very comforting ... see post #1 here for why ...

Thanks Sefty - as in see page 1 as to why I is comforting ?

 

[Ansett]

Re: y+ to J

X9 suggests not too full in Y:
J9 C9 D9 I9 U0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9S9 N9 G0 X9 E0

WOW doesnt look full at all even in business class looks like 27 out of 30 seats still available

 

[amaroo]

Re: y+ to J

WOW doesnt look full at all even in business class looks like 27 out of 30 seats still available

That's what happens when you flood a destination with absolute rubbish cabins!

 

[legroom]

Re: y+ to J

How did your request go?

I find it odd that people asks for info / informed guesses about their upgrade chances etc.... and many gurus here are willing and able to shed some light on various questions.

But bugger me if I know whether their upgrade was successful or not.

Its absence prevents any further feedbacks / validation to our guesses and that is somewhat annoying.

Why spend time typing questions asking for help / info and then we are all in no-better situation to learn!

 

[reubenhills]

Re: y+ to J

I find it odd that people asks for info / informed guesses about their upgrade chances etc.... and many gurus here are willing and able to shed some light on various questions.

But bugger me if I know whether their upgrade was successful or not.

Its absence prevents any further feedbacks / validation to our guesses and that is somewhat annoying.

Why spend time typing questions asking for help / info and then we are all in no-better situation to learn!

Hi legroom

are you referring to my request for info ?
If so I made my response when my upgrade was successful

 

[legroom]

Re: y+ to J

Hi legroom

are you referring to my request for info ?
If so I made my response when my upgrade was successful

Good on you

I missed that 14/5/13 post of yours!

Scrolling through iPhone sometimes does that to you.

That was a positive response so we could sort of learn for ourselves in the future.

 

[reubenhills]

Upgrade probability tomorrow

I there just wondered if anyone could assist in deciphering the ee info I got for my qf flight tomorrow from PE to business
0 Connections
QF 12 0 LAX
05/19/13 10:10 PM SYD
05/21/13 6:10 AM 388
Unavailable
80% / 45m F2 A0 P0 J9 C9 D9 I9 W4 R3 T3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X9 E9

thanks

 

[Happy Trails]

Re: Upgrade probability tomorrow

I there just wondered if anyone could assist in deciphering the ee info I got for my qf flight tomorrow from PE to business
0 Connections
QF 12 0 LAX
05/19/13 10:10 PM SYD
05/21/13 6:10 AM 388
Unavailable
80% / 45m F2 A0 P0 J9 C9 D9 I9 W4 R3 T3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X9 E9

thanks

J9 means at least nine seats available for sale in business - the seat map shows about 20 seats not allocated.
W4 means four available for sale in PE, so fairly full and maybe even being oversold.
So, I would guess a good chance of a points upgrade, though you don't mention your status and that will be a significant factor.

 

[Paddy55]

Re: Upgrade probability tomorrow

I there just wondered if anyone could assist in deciphering the ee info I got for my qf flight tomorrow from PE to business
0 Connections
QF 12 0 LAX
05/19/13 10:10 PM SYD
05/21/13 6:10 AM 388
Unavailable
80% / 45m F2 A0 P0 J9 C9 D9 I9 W4 R3 T3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X9 E9

thanks

THe J9 C9 D9 I9 suggests plenty of space in J, so depending on your QF status (Cl beats P1 beats WP... and the rest can cross their fingers ), and if you applied for the upgrade awhile ago then I'd think you have a shot.

Mind you, F is basically full so the Js won't be going anywhere, and the X9 E9 suggests not much pressure to move people in Y to PE, either.

 

[reubenhills]

Re: Upgrade probability tomorrow

Thanks !
Im qf FF gold - only applied for the upgrade a few days ago .. Fingers crossed !!

 

[Katie]

Re: Upgrade probability tomorrow

Would really appreciate some guru knowledge here .. my little sister is on QF107 on 6 June S"YD-JFK. Shje's on a QF/OW RTW tickets, SYD-JFK-LHR, not sure how she's getting back to Aus. routing wise. She also hurt her back ~4wks ago, much worse than I hurt mine. She's now worried a bit about the travel in Y, and seeing what she can do to UG herself and husband to Y+. TA has advised a $$ amount they're not willing to spend to UG the tickets to Y+ ($3600pp or maybe that was for both?? But I suspect PP, as they are in Y in a non-points-upgradeable bucket). TA has also advised that they can only UG to Y+ for all the way to LHR, not just LAX or JFK (just LAX would not be possible I understand because it's all one flight code).

I've looked at FlightStats and am seeing SYD-JFK:
W/9 R/9 T/0 Z/0 Y/9 B/9 H/9 K/9 M/9 L/9 V/9 S/9 N/9 Q/9 O/9

Two weeks out til the flight, and she's NB, and I think hubs is QP NB, so bugger all status. But both Y and Y+ are not looking overly sold out at this stage.

TA has also suggested to try to upgrade with $$ at checkin. I can't remember hearing of people successfully doing this ex-SYD? I have heard of it ex-SIN and other locations, but not Aus.

I don't feel comfortable recommending the UG attempt at the airport (well, try it, but don't hold your breath it'll work). *If* the loads stay like that, it might be worth upgrading their ticket to S level, and trying for points lottery ... any thoughts from more knowledgeable gurus than me??
[During our phone conversation today, as I was checking she was on QF107, as well as mentioning "I didn't realise there was more than one type of economy fare" she also said that talking to me was like "talking to an airline". Man, if she met some other AFFers, she'd figure out I'm just a lightweight!! ]