Fog in SYD

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Another way that these things can sometimes be handled, and I don't know whether that may have come into play or not, is to plan a very early diversion or 'tech call'.

For instance, in the case of the 94, if Melbourne had low enough cloud to need either an alternate or holding, and Sydney (the first choice for a diversion) had fog, then you're looking at a scenario in which you will never get to destination unless the weather improves. If that is considered unlikely before departure, then, instead of trying to fit on more fuel (which the 94 can't), you might look at taking a reduced fuel load, and planning on going to Auckland. You can then push the speed up to the max, landing weight won't be an issue (the 380 regularly doesn't reach max landing weight until very late in a flight), and you can have everything in place for a quick turnaround. You could conceivably manage a shutdown time of less than 30 minutes if it all comes together.

Some years ago, I took a flight (767) from Melbourne to Hong Kong. The weather there was appalling, and most of the alternates weren't much better. So, we took just enough fuel to go to Darwin, filled it to the brim there, and arrived in HK with enough fuel to hold and still divert to Bangkok (2 plus hours away). Two go arounds later, we were the first aircraft to land for the day...
 
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Re: BNE popular for diversions this morning.

Looks like that won't happen - OEB is doing the QF5 today.

Thanks VHOEJ. Yes, I appear to have had an old age moment (I have just turned 32 today) and that is indeed the bird that has been allocated for a number of months so no idea where I got VH-OJC from?!
 
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Thanks VHOEJ. Yes, I appear to have had an old age moment (I have just turned 32 today) and that is indeed the bird that has been allocated for a number of months so no idea where I got VH-OJC from?!

It has a VH in it....

I'm always amused at how you guys always seem to know what aircraft it will be weeks in advance, whereas I find out an hour beforehand.
 
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It has a VH in it....

I'm always amused at how you guys always seem to know what aircraft it will be weeks in advance, whereas I find out an hour beforehand.

I ordinarily would not have a clue but the obvious answer for this one is the seat map. This is a cheap Y fare for me and the only bird left with the seat map I have seen is VH-OEB. I've got my WP shadow activated (so far - fingers crossed) in the mini cabin of the former Y+ seats which is a nice bonus.

If it were any other seat map, I would have no idea!
 
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3.5 days in advance, BOM suggests that Melbourne will experience fog on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday (19 to 21 June inclusive). If I was an airline executive, beancounter or particularly a shareholder I'd be going to Mass tomorrow morning!

I have read that on average, KSA at SYD is subject to five days of fog a year (presumably this means 'that adversely affect air operations.')

Does anyone know what the annual average in days for this type of weather related disruption is for each of the other Australian capitals? I assume it is 'nil' at DRW and pretty rare at BNE and PER.
 
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is subject to five days of fog a year (presumably this means 'that adversely affect air operations.')

Does anyone know what the annual average in days for this type of weather related disruption is for each of the other Australian capitals? I assume it is 'nil' at DRW and pretty rare at BNE and PER.

I don't know what the average is, but I wouldn't have said it was rare in Perth. Probably a similar number to Sydney.
 
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I d also think cyclones would be pretty disruptive in DRW.
 
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3.5 days in advance, BOM suggests that Melbourne will experience fog on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday (19 to 21 June inclusive). If I was an airline executive, beancounter or particularly a shareholder I'd be going to Mass tomorrow morning!

I have read that on average, KSA at SYD is subject to five days of fog a year (presumably this means 'that adversely affect air operations.')

Does anyone know what the annual average in days for this type of weather related disruption is for each of the other Australian capitals? I assume it is 'nil' at DRW and pretty rare at BNE and PER.

I'm MEL bound on Friday morning , so im hoping that the fog might be more focussed on Wed & Thurs .
 
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