General Coronavirus chit chat thread - non-travel specific

[JohnM]

Yes, and the Opposition is milking that. However, the border closure seems well-supported in a seemingly broadly terrified community.

My guess is that they'll keep the border closed but relax rules even further on pubs, sport, things like that, as a salve. I think something needs to be done to appease people.

Currently it's 2 sq m and mandatory to be seated in pubs. If they relax that and allow such things as live music, for example, I think that would go a long way to appeasement.

I've given up caring too much but I am p*ssed off for people like some on AFF who were planning to visit WA for the wildflower season in spring (peaking mid August-mid September). Opening by then is looking like a fading proposition.

At least intrastate travel restrictions are relaxed. I'm shooting through to Exmouth on Monday for a couple of weeks - getting in before the school holidays start on 3 July.

Well, my prediction has come true. As from this Friday, relaxation of rules will allow standing and live music in pubs in WA.

It just had to be one or the other of opening the border or relaxing local restrictions. It became a no-brainer with the situation in the DPRV.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Hopefully a fire has finally been lit beneath the locals in these areas. Queues for testing were “out the door” and round the block at both Southland and Northland shopping centres this morning.

Hopefully, but tests in Vic today were only 6,314, though Sunday and Sat were 15,400 and 9,504.

Plus most people have been doing the right thing and so it remains to be seen if the ones doing the wrong thing change. This weeks cases are the last in a chain of a new infection passing the baton each week.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Given that the Victoria Government only publicly took this seriously yesterday(?) when announcing their cancellation of future planned easing of restrictions and combining it with the typical transmissible period (10-14 days), then are we looking at another about 150-200 cases perhaps.

Hopefully those past 5 days of double-digit new cases before acting do not come back to bite the Victorian Government.

 

[blackcat20]

Given that the Victoria Government only publicly took this seriously yesterday(?) when announcing their cancellation of future planned easing of restrictions and combining it with the typical transmissible period (10-14 days), then are we looking at another about 150-200 cases perhaps.

Hopefully those past 5 days of double-digit new cases before acting do not come back to bite the Victorian Government.

The change in restrictions was announced on Saturday.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

The change in restrictions was announced on Saturday.

So were there 5 days of double digit cases before Saturday then? My memory is clearly getting fuzzy. Thanks

 

[blackcat20]

So were there 5 days of double digit cases before Saturday then? My memory is clearly getting fuzzy. Thanks

Double digits on four of the five days prior.

Daily Confirmed Cases - COVID Live

Live tracking of coronavirus cases, active, tests, deaths, ICU, hospitalisations and vaccinations in Victoria

covidlive.com.au

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Double digits on four of the five days prior.

Daily Confirmed Cases - COVID Live

Live tracking of coronavirus cases, active, tests, deaths, ICU, hospitalisations and vaccinations in Victoria

covidlive.com.au

I guess three days in a row and four out of five is a reasonable time for a government to pull the trigger

 

[Pushka]

SA is continuing to open up next Monday to conditions similar to WA. I sincerely wish that Victoria can trace and isolate and contain. Doing that will be the first step towards Australia showing that it is capable of managing any further easing of national restrictions.

 

[Flying mermaid]

SA is continuing to open up next Monday to conditions similar to WA. I sincerely wish that Victoria can trace and isolate and contain. Doing that will be the first step towards Australia showing that it is capable of managing any further easing of national restrictions.

It will be interesting won’t it? If Victoria can control this mess they have and get back to minimal cases it will be very good for confidence in Australia’s ability to control future hot spots.

 

[Pushka]

It will be interesting won’t it? If Victoria can control this mess they have and get back to minimal cases it will be very good for confidence in Australia’s ability to control future hot spots.

EDIT - ignore my dyslexic ramblings.
I read a report today that of a couple of hundred checks in Vic on those supposed to be in isolation (presumably close contacts of a positive case) that only 17 were at home but so far I think only 1 fine issued. Which is completely pointless.

 

[mrs.dr.ron]

So it looks like Victorians are not complying with the self-isolation restrictions !!!


Posted at 1pm today on the COVID update page on news.com.au
Virus door knocks reveal disturbing trend
"When police officers went to check on 174 people who were supposed to be self-isolating in Victoria yesterday, only 13 of them were home, says the state's Police Minister. "

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

So it looks like Victorians are not complying with the self-isolation restrictions !!!


Posted at 1pm today on the COVID update page on news.com.au
Virus door knocks reveal disturbing trend
"When police officers went to check on 174 people who were supposed to be self-isolating in Victoria yesterday, only 13 of them were home, says the state's Police Minister. "

I read a report today that of a couple of hundred checks in Vic on those supposed to be in isolation (presumably close contacts of a positive case) that only 17 were at home but so far I think only 1 fine issued. Which is completely pointless.

174 checked, 13 not home, 1 fined, 12 excuses still being checked.

 

[Melburnian1]

174 checked, 13 not home, 1 fined, 12 excuses still being checked.

Haven't you misread this? Other reports (as noted above by other AFFers) suggest 161 were not home, rather than just 13 being absent from their domicile.

 

[drron]

Haven't you misread this? Other reports (as noted above by other AFFers) suggest 161 were not home, rather than just 13 being absent from their domicile.

No the Police Minister was misquoted.174 checked 13 not home is correct.

 

[Lynda2475]

No the Police Minister was misquoted.174 checked 13 not home is correct.

Unless they were seeking medical assistance i.e. at hospital emmergency then there is no valid excuse not to be home if you are supposed to be in self isolation. Not allowed to go shopping etc.

Im surprised these ransom checks werent happening all along, the number of people in isolation relatively small, should be checking each household at least once in the 14 day window.

 

[moa999]

With that outcome, I'd think the checks need to be stepped up to multiple times a day.
And/or use of GPS trackers,

 

[Hvr]

Im surprised these ransom checks werent happening all along,

A Freudian slip given you can be fined if not permitted to leave your premises.

In the early days of home quarantine there were problems with home delivery of groceries so it is understandable that some people had to leave for essentials.

And with the panic buying then happening you could reasonably expect to attend several stores to get basic supplies.

But now this has been overcome then a failure to remain at home, unless a medical emergency. should see the person moved to a lock down hotel at their own expense. Any further breaches and a severe fine is warranted.

Especially if you infect others.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

A Freudian slip given you can be fined if not permitted to leave your premises.

In the early days of home quarantine there were problems with home delivery of groceries so it is understandable that some people had to leave for essentials.

And with the panic buying then happening you could reasonably expect to attend several stores to get basic supplies.

But now this has been overcome then a failure to remain at home, unless a medical emergency. should see the person moved to a lock down hotel at their own expense. Any further breaches and a severe fine is warranted.

Especially if you infect others.

Apparently there is panic buying in Melbourne.

Second wave of panic buying hits

Just a few weeks after supermarkets removed all limits on purchases there are signs that panic buying is on the up once again.

www.news.com.au

 

[Pushka]

SA is about to receive 800 arrivals from overseas - from India and South America.

At least they will be tested twice before release to the rest of Australia.

 

[MelMel]

Essendon player Conor McKenna has tested negative again