General Coronavirus chit chat thread - non-travel specific

[drron]

And all the above have higher mortality rates both total and recent than Australia.

 

[Flying mermaid]

The Oxford vaccine is rolling out Monday in UK with the plan to have everyone vaccinated by their Spring. My Aunt and Uncle in the UK, in their nineties, living in Oxford have had both immunisations done now. No side effects at all. They feel blessed.

Dr FM will be vaccinated on Tuesday. She said she received the email saying they could book appointments and within half an hour booked and Tuesday was the earliest she could get. A friend booked in an hour and she was pushed to Thursday so definitely an enthusiastic uptake by NHS!

 

[DC3]

And until we get our vax in Oz, we aren’t getting out of the country are we? Exemptions aside.

 

[RooFlyer]

Countries that have already started administering vaccinations include Argentina, Belgium, Belarus, Canada, Chile, Costa Rica, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Israel, Italy, Kuwait, Malta, Mexico, Oman, Poland, Qatar, Romania, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Serbia, Slovakia, Spain, Switzerland, UAE, UK and USA. Includes Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, Sputnik V and Sinopharm (also, Oxford from next week in the UK).

Interesting. Which of those countries are being swamped by the virus, and which are much like Australia?

And until we get our vax in Oz, we aren’t getting out of the country are we? Exemptions aside.

I don't think the 2 are linked are they?

 

[Flying mermaid]

Interesting. Which of those countries are being swamped by the virus, and which are much like Australia?



I don't think the 2 are linked are they?

All the countries mentioned are getting daily deaths. Norway and Finland and the Middle East are probably closest to us as their cases/deaths are moderate to low. Eastern Europe has been hit very badly with the second wave.

 

[Flying mermaid]

And until we get our vax in Oz, we aren’t getting out of the country are we? Exemptions aside.

Baby steps . I don’t think anyone really knows. From what I was reading until we have enough people vaccinated to have herd immunity going, they can’t let vaccinated people in without quarantining still. But as with all advice with this virus, no doubt things will change as knowledge grows.

 

[DC3]

I support COVID-swamped countries vaccinating. I also support us in Oz having access, ASAP. I am yet to see any plan for the roll-out in Oz, notwithstanding talk of March 2021.

 

[oz_mark]

I support COVID-swamped countries vaccinating. I also support us in Oz having access, ASAP. I am yet to see any plan for the roll-out in Oz, notwithstanding talk of March 2021.

Expect it to be a mess. The states will be charged will rolling it out.

 

[drron]

I support COVID-swamped countries vaccinating. I also support us in Oz having access, ASAP. I am yet to see any plan for the roll-out in Oz, notwithstanding talk of March 2021.

But as was explained by the CMO today no country in the world has granted full authorisation for any Covid vaccine.

 

[Flying mermaid]

I support COVID-swamped countries vaccinating. I also support us in Oz having access, ASAP. I am yet to see any plan for the roll-out in Oz, notwithstanding talk of March 2021.

I don’t mind them doing a proper authorisation. Greg Hunt said it was going well and he was hoping all the boxes will be ticked ahead of schedule.

 

[DC3]

Hoping? So, what’s the roll-out plan, Mr Hunt? Distribution, priorities, or will it be a State responsibility. Does Oz have a plan?

 

[Flying mermaid]

Hoping? So, what’s the roll-out plan, Mr Hunt? Distribution, priorities, or will it be a State responsibility. Does Oz have a plan?

I feel quite sure they do . They have had national plans and definitions all the way through although states chose to ignore them and go their own way. I know I am a rampant optimist, but I think Aus has done an amazing job which is why we can get hysterical about 20 cases a day when other countries are getting hundreds of thousands.

Hunt doesn’t dictate to the TGA - he merely communicates what he is told.

EDIT

I really don’t think we are going to see this

Florida's decision to vaccinate seniors first causes distribution 'chaos'

In other coronavirus news: A Wisconsin hospital worker destroyed 500 doses, California is overwhelmed with a hospitalization surge, and the rich got richer during the pandemic.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Flying mermaid]

Hoping? So, what’s the roll-out plan, Mr Hunt? Distribution, priorities, or will it be a State responsibility. Does Oz have a plan?

Some info - you can check for updates

https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2020/08/australia-s-covid-19-vaccine-and-treatment-strategy.pdf

Section 5 is probably of most interest to you

 

[DC3]

... Section 5 is probably of most interest to you

Thank you for the link. However, this part ‘... The Government will develop a comprehensive monitoring and surveillance plan so that any vaccine provided to Australians will be monitored to ensure ongoing safety ...’ would seem to indicate that there’s probably no plan as yet.

 

[DC3]

But as was explained by the CMO today no country in the world has granted full authorisation for any Covid vaccine.

And certainly good for the people of 30-odd countries that their leaders are getting on with the job of vaccinating.

 

[OZDUCK]

The PM and Commonwealth CMO have confirmed a March start for the vaccination programme

PM says it would be 'very dangerous' to roll out the coronavirus vaccine prematurely

The Chief Medical Officer says the vaccine will not be a "magic bullet immediately" and the PM says a premature rollout of the jab would be "very dangerous". Here's a recap if you missed today's coronavirus press conference.

www.abc.net.au

 

[DC3]

The PM and Commonwealth CMO have confirmed a March start for the vaccination programme

PM says it would be 'very dangerous' to roll out the coronavirus vaccine prematurely

The Chief Medical Officer says the vaccine will not be a "magic bullet immediately" and the PM says a premature rollout of the jab would be "very dangerous". Here's a recap if you missed today's coronavirus press conference.

www.abc.net.au

So, discussed today. Too much of a coincidence.

I always suspected that Scomo had been peeping on AFF. So, there we have it.

 

[Flying mermaid]

Thank you for the link. However, this part ‘... The Government will develop a comprehensive monitoring and surveillance plan so that any vaccine provided to Australians will be monitored to ensure ongoing safety ...’ would seem to indicate that there’s probably no plan as yet.

That particular document was dated August. It said they were in contact with the states to develop the plan. I feel very confident that it has happened . Given we roll out a flu vaccine every year within a fairly small window, I am honestly not sure why this is all that different, particularly if we use the Oxford one, rather than Pfizer where there aren’t storage issues. It is 2 injections, rather than one, but shouldn’t be that much of a stretch given we do this every year.

 

[DC3]

That particular document was dated August. It said they were in contact with the states to develop the plan. I feel very confident that it has happened . Given we roll out a flu vaccine every year within a fairly small window, I am honestly not sure why this is all that different, particularly if we use the Oxford one, rather then Pfizer where there aren’t storage issues. It is 2 injections, rather than one, but shouldn’t be that much of a stretch given we do this every year.

Yes, I had looked at the document date and thought that it may not be all that up to date. Let’s hope that our confidence will be rewarded.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Hoping? So, what’s the roll-out plan, Mr Hunt? Distribution, priorities, or will it be a State responsibility. Does Oz have a plan?

I have a more relaxed approach... the government has said 'March'. For me the details don't matter so much... it's not like those first in line need to plan their diary or availability around the roll out... they can't go anywhere!