General Coronavirus chit chat thread - non-travel specific

[Flying mermaid]

Dr FM has had her injection. UK seems to be moving to getting as many people as possible with an initial vaccination and not worrying as yet with the second one - it’s more to give long term protection.

no side effects. She said the logistics are difficult as they need to monitor you for 30 minutes afterwards and with social distancing that’s a fair bit of space. Her hospital is getting through 130 a day and have 1,000 to do. They are prioritising nurses, doctors and orderlies and then cleaners will be next, as they are most at risk and then will move through the rest of the hospital staff.

 

[DC3]

Australia to bring forward vax start date by two weeks, and possibly even earlier. Hallelujah:

Australian vaccine rollout brought forward, Health Minister 'not ruling out' starting it even earlier

The expected rollout of the first coronavirus vaccine in Australia has been brought forward by two weeks to early March.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Flashback]

Not great, the media really annoy me.

Quarantine 'escapee' in high-security prison after botched bail 'made worse' by public attention

The lawyer for accused quarantine hotel escapee Jenny D’Ubios is appalled that her client is being held in a maximum security prison after attempts to secure her bail conditions were allegedly undone by police and media.

www.watoday.com.au

But.. she shouldn't have escaped quarantine in the first place. While I have sympathy with her reasons for trying to get out, the fact she them went to the beach and met friends sounds to me like her reasons were fake anyway in which case she deserves what she gets.

 

[TheRealTMA]

Not great, the media really annoy me.

Quarantine 'escapee' in high-security prison after botched bail 'made worse' by public attention

The lawyer for accused quarantine hotel escapee Jenny D’Ubios is appalled that her client is being held in a maximum security prison after attempts to secure her bail conditions were allegedly undone by police and media.

www.watoday.com.au

But.. she shouldn't have escaped quarantine in the first place. While I have sympathy with her reasons for trying to get out, the fact she them went to the beach and met friends sounds to me like her reasons were fake anyway in which case she deserves what she gets.

Maybe the solution to such people us to send them to Sheffield, UK?

 

[Flying mermaid]

Not great, the media really annoy me.

Quarantine 'escapee' in high-security prison after botched bail 'made worse' by public attention

The lawyer for accused quarantine hotel escapee Jenny D’Ubios is appalled that her client is being held in a maximum security prison after attempts to secure her bail conditions were allegedly undone by police and media.

www.watoday.com.au

But.. she shouldn't have escaped quarantine in the first place. While I have sympathy with her reasons for trying to get out, the fact she them went to the beach and met friends sounds to me like her reasons were fake anyway in which case she deserves what she gets.

If you go and read up on her, she is a total lunatic who doesn’t believe Covid is real and follows all sorts of conspiracy theories. So my sympathy is zero - or maybe -1000.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

sounds dubios

 

[DC3]

Breaking news: Australian COVID vaccinations to now start within weeks. Praise The Lord.

Australian coronavirus vaccine rollout brought forward, with first jabs to roll out next month

The rollout of a coronavirus vaccine in Australia will be brought forward, with the Prime Minister saying the first groups are expected to receive a jab in mid-to-late-February and a target of 4 million vaccinated by the end of March.

www.abc.net.au

“... By the end of March its target is to have four million people inoculated ...”

 

[Flashback]

Breaking news: Australian COVID vaccinations to now start within weeks. Praise The Lord.

Australian coronavirus vaccine rollout brought forward, with first jabs to roll out next month

The rollout of a coronavirus vaccine in Australia will be brought forward, with the Prime Minister saying the first groups are expected to receive a jab in mid-to-late-February and a target of 4 million vaccinated by the end of March.

www.abc.net.au

“... By the end of March its target is to have four million people inoculated ...”

Nice aim to have but logistically I just don't see it happening. Anyway I guess we will see. UK didn't get anywhere close to that run rate and logistically would have less issues than Aus you would think due to its size, especially for the Pfizer vaccine. Oxford one will help scale but it's still lofty heights!

 

[Pushka]

Nice aim to have but logistically I just don't see it happening. Anyway I guess we will see. UK didn't get anywhere close to that run rate and logistically would have less issues than Aus you would think due to its size, especially for the Pfizer vaccine. Oxford one will help scale but it's still lofty heights!

I heard a medico say today they may need to pause Covid roll out to give the flu vaccine. Yeah right. Given we give very young babies multiple ones at once in both arms, I think the AMA needs to rethink that one. Or let pharmacists give the jabs without any of the posturing from them.

The Oxford rollout will be the one to help with this timeframe.

 

[DC3]

Nice aim to have but logistically I just don't see it happening. Anyway I guess we will see ...

Paging Scomo.

 

[Flying mermaid]

Nice aim to have but logistically I just don't see it happening. Anyway I guess we will see. UK didn't get anywhere close to that run rate and logistically would have less issues than Aus you would think due to its size, especially for the Pfizer vaccine. Oxford one will help scale but it's still lofty heights!

But we have a whole public service department planning it - what could go wrong? Seriously though I think I would back Aus over UK...

 

[DC3]

But we have a whole public service department planning it - what could go wrong? Seriously though I think I would back Aus over UK...

Definitely. The UK government has handled the whole thing rather poorly. I doubt that we could do as bad as that.

Edited

 

[Flashback]

But we have a whole public service department planning it - what could go wrong? Seriously though I think I would back Aus over UK...

Definitely. The UK government has handled the whole thing rather poorly. I doubt that we could do as bad as that.

Edited

I'll sit here chortling to myself it that does not end up being the outcome

 

[Flying mermaid]

I'll sit here chortling to myself it that does not end up being the outcome

I think one of the advantages Aus has is that we have almost no one in hospital with COVID so staff are available to vaccinate rather than trying to treat people.

 

[ethernet]

News: NSW to ramp up testing of hotel quarantine drivers to stop COVID-19 spread

Looks like luck, not brains prevented more breakouts, my quip about betting would be payday. Sadly being gutless, and not immediately approving frontline jabs, now - is still too hard , even when the sth African one has reared its head. Risks changes. Maybe fed.gov enjoys depriving the states of solutions.

On a Yes minister theme, only in the UK did it come true

‘Yes, Minister’ predicted the Nightingale Hospitals farce in 1981

On Tuesday, it was revealed that the Nightingale hospitals – those rapidly fitted out extra-capacity buildings that sprang up during the first wave of coronavirus – were being decommissioned. Owen Jones summed up the situation. The Nightingale hospitals – built at vast expense – were a PR stunt...

www.thepoke.co.uk

I highly recommend reading the above link.

To avoid circular logic, I think the enabling action needed is to inoculate those tasked with doing the inoculation's first. Somehow - not being done. sigh.

 

[drron]

The terrible cost of Covid on US healthcare workers.
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Many were immigrants.
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[Happy Trails]

Jan 3rd - A dire situation in UK hospitals:

LONDON — At some emergency wards, patients wait more than 12 hours before they are tended to. Corridors are jammed with beds carrying frail and elderly patients waiting to be admitted to hospital wards. Outpatient appointments were canceled to free up staff members, and by Wednesday morning hospitals had been ordered to postpone nonurgent surgeries until the end of the month.
Some doctors took to Twitter to vent their frustrations publicly. One complained of having to practice “battlefield medicine,” while another apologized for the “3rd world conditions” caused by overcrowding.
Over the past week, hospitals have increasingly declared “black alerts,” an admission that they are unable to cope with demand, the health service confirmed, without releasing numbers. Most hospitals have been unable to meet emergency-ward targets of seeing patients within four hours because of a shortage of beds and staff.

N.H.S. Overwhelmed in Britain, Leaving Patients to Wait (Published 2018)

For years, budget cuts at the National Health Service have left hospitals stretched over the winter. This time, it is under the highest strain in decades.

www.nytimes.com

Oh, hang on a minute, that was January 2018.

 

[Cappuccino99]

My ex in laws, both in their 90s, have just been hospitalised in London. I don't rate their chances

Another cousin and her husband (20s) in Essex caught it from tradespeople in their new house. They are doing ok at home.

So sad to see the tragic mess of the UK.

 

[DC3]

National Hangover Service. It would be a joke, if the problems with the NHS weren’t so serious.

 

[Flashback]

In the UK people are back into the habit of veering off to the side when you're walking past one another. It's like March all over again. There really is nothing quite like it.