General Coronavirus chit chat thread - non-travel specific

[Johnno101]

We have a family meeting to sort out the next few months tomorrow. All our children and grandchildren coming. currently we look after the grandchildren while the parents work so we have to figure out if we all go into self isolation does that meanthe children can still be looked after by us. Both of us over 60 so in the higher risk.

 

[Pushka]

We have a family meeting to sort out the next few months tomorrow. All our children and grandchildren coming. currently we look after the grandchildren while the parents work so we have to figure out if we all go into self isolation does that meanthe children can still be looked after by us. Both of us over 60 so in the higher risk.

These meetings have now been banned. And you should not be caring for your grandchildren now.

 

[Johnno101]

These meetings have not been banned if you read the latest 15 minutes ago. While we are in lockdown as a family it consists of all of us and as a family we work together.

 

[Pushka]

These meetings have not been banned if you read the latest 15 minutes ago. While we are in lockdown as a family it consists of all of us and as a family we work together.

I believe Morrison specifically mentioned that large family groups around the dinner table were not to be held. We stopped doing this anyway and our children will not let us babysit the grandchild anymore. For our sakes. DIL is now part of a Covid task group.

I think we need to lay off Morrison. He must be exhausted. Sure he made mistakes with the bushfire. That was stupid. It isn't going to do us any good fighting with the PM. Gladys on the other hand - NSW would best be led through a military coup.

 

[DC3]

I believe Morrison specifically mentioned that large family groups around the dinner table were not to be held ....

Thank you for posting this. After reading something above, I thought that I was starting to imagine things.

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[juddles]

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I think we need to lay off Morrison. He must be exhausted. ....

I completely agree. He is a smart cookie - but this period is the ultimate test where even very good guys can come across as failing. I voice my criticism of him at the moment not as digs against him, but in the hope he recognizes the need for change. In truly alarming times we need a leader - and I forgive any leader in these times for failures. They are working very new and sudden difficult ground.

What do I want for a leader? Someone who voices conviction and passion. I do not want someone who is just reading "safe" scripts where the whole responsibility is being cast to others like his beloved groups of "medical experts". This is a crisis. And it arises from a medical issue. But that is no excuse to become, as leader, just a carrier of their views. He needs to grow balls and show some heart. I am sure he has it, but he has not yet let that shine through....

 

[Flying mermaid]

1/2 hour only at the hairdresser - now do I grow my hair long or go gray can’t colour it and cut it in half an hour

 

[Pushka]

Thank you for posting this. After reading something above, I thought that I was starting to imagine things.

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In detail
"Barbecues, birthdays and house parties must be “kept to a minimum” with “very small numbers of guests”.
“Visits to your premises, to your house, to your residence, should be kept to a minimum and with very small numbers of guests,” the Prime Minister said.
“We don’t want to be overly specific about that. We want Australians to exercise common sense.
“Gathering together, even around a large family table in the family home, when all the siblings get together and bring the kids, these are not things we can do now. All of these things present risks.”

 

[Pushka]

1/2 hour only at the hairdresser - now do I grow my hair long or go gray can’t colour it and cut it in half an hour

Same conversation here! I'll only have time for a cut. No wash or blow wave. No grey treatment. I simply can't grow my hair long. I'll be cutting my fringe myself. Gulp.

 

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[Flying mermaid]

Same conversation here! I'll only have time for a cut. No wash or blow wave. No grey treatment. I simply can't grow my hair long. I'll be cutting my fringe myself. Gulp.

My beautiful hairdresser cannot work and talk, so we are going to be having very silent sessions if she is going to get through anything in half an hour

 

[justinbrett]

His speech was confusing. “Only leave home for essentials” but entire Westfields are staying open.

He’s trying to find a balance between Health and Economics but we’ll probably end up not saving either. I’m also alarmed the CMO said he was surprised by the number of cases despite us being on the exact same exponent for at least a week (around 22-25% per day).

 

[Antoallison]

I have the same problems ladies .. I am hopeless at even attempting to cut (butcher) my fringe in between haircuts.

There may be an alternative !

 

[juddles]

I cannot recall the specifics of the person speaking on the ABC news radio - but they were saying that almost all new cases of COVID were due to detections of people who had contact with pax coming from overseas, or people that had direct contact with persons already sufferring the disease.

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't this like decreeing that "noone under 50 will be tested" and then saying that the only new cases are in people over 50?

 

[Flying mermaid]

I cannot recall the specifics of the person speaking on the ABC news radio - but they were saying that almost all new cases of COVID were due to detections of people who had contact with pax coming from overseas, or people that had direct contact with persons already sufferring the disease.

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't this like decreeing that "noone under 50 will be tested" and then saying that the only new cases are in people over 50?

In the ACT all our cases are people coming from overseas or their contacts and I must admit I had the same thought as you. However a few days ago they explained that any health professional with symptoms got tested even if they didn’t meet the criteria of overseas travel or contact. Because none of these were being identified as having covid-19 they had a degree of confidence that we were not getting community spread here. I understood that other states were showing up pockets of community spread which is why they are increasing restrictions.

I don’t mind them, if it helps to save lives and jobs.

 

[Flying mermaid]

His speech was confusing. “Only leave home for essentials” but entire Westfields are staying open.

He’s trying to find a balance between Health and Economics but we’ll probably end up not saving either. I’m also alarmed the CMO said he was surprised by the number of cases despite us being on the exact same exponent for at least a week (around 22-25% per day).

I didn’t find it confusing. He was quite clear that they were trying to avoid big gatherings (out and in houses) and ad long as people were sensible at how much they went out and shops controlled the number of people in the shops it was an acceptable compromise.

if we all work together on this and don’t flout guidelines then maybe they can keep control and people don’t lose their businesses. If not then stricter lockdown will come in.

keeping the shops open doesn’t mean going shopping all day, or meeting your friends for a shopping trip. It means staying home as much as possible but still being able to go and buy something if you needed it.

 

[Flashback]

In detail
"Barbecues, birthdays and house parties must be “kept to a minimum” with “very small numbers of guests”.
“Visits to your premises, to your house, to your residence, should be kept to a minimum and with very small numbers of guests,” the Prime Minister said.
“We don’t want to be overly specific about that. We want Australians to exercise common sense.
“Gathering together, even around a large family table in the family home, when all the siblings get together and bring the kids, these are not things we can do now. All of these things present risks.”

Seems to be slightly contradicting. You can have small parties .... but you can't gather around a table with family. Just bring in the no party bigger than 2 restriction like the UK has and be done with it! No parties, at all. Idiots.

 

[JohnM]

I completely agree. He is a smart cookie - but this period is the ultimate test where even very good guys can come across as failing. I voice my criticism of him at the moment not as digs against him, but in the hope he recognizes the need for change. In truly alarming times we need a leader - and I forgive any leader in these times for failures. They are working very new and sudden difficult ground.

What do I want for a leader? Someone who voices conviction and passion. I do not want someone who is just reading "safe" scripts where the whole responsibility is being cast to others like his beloved groups of "medical experts". This is a crisis. And it arises from a medical issue. But that is no excuse to become, as leader, just a carrier of their views. He needs to grow balls and show some heart. I am sure he has it, but he has not yet let that shine through....

In a nutshell: something Churchillian? It's about rousing the populace to the common cause. But could even Churchill rouse the rabble, polarised populace we have against an insidious, not overt, threat?

Signs are now appearing of 'Why kill the economy? - just let covid-19 take out the vulnerable, Darwinian-style.' I've heard it referred to as the 'boomer-remover'.

Damned if you; damned if you don't.

Maybe an invasive war made rousing easier - mobilising to confront an overt enemy; not cowering to a covert, insidious enemy?

 

[Tropic]

Geeze. Does it really matter about whether it's 2 this or 10 that? The message is the same. Use common sense and maintain recommended social distancing measures and personal hygiene. Governments and Prime Ministers are not infallible but I'm sure the PM and all the literally hundreds of public servants and numerous experts advising him, all are acting in good faith to the best of their abilities for the common good and welfare of all Australians (and our guests). Of course there will always be those that just dont understand how government works or are just ignorant or just blinded by their political biases. At the end of the day it's YOUR responsibility to protect yourself and your loved ones regardless of what the government does. Might add Having to work with state governments on anything requiring consensus is a nightmare at the best of times let alone a national emergency.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

We have a family meeting to sort out the next few months tomorrow. .

Perhaps use Skype or similar? You do not have to physically meet to have a meeting.