General COVID-19 Vaccine Discussion

[LordGarlic]

South Korea probing two deaths after AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine: KDCA

SEOUL: South Korean authorities said on Wednesday (Mar 3) they are investigating the deaths of two people after a media report said the pair - both with pre-existing conditions - died within days of receiving AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine.A 63-year-old nursing home patient with cerebrovascular...

www.channelnewsasia.com

 

[drron]

Well NZ obviously feel Pfizer is superior, as they have decided to order enough for everyone and wait for that delivery, despite having other options available.

It cant be cost, because AZ is less expensive than Pfizer and has lower transport and storage costs too. There must have been some advice to come to the decision to spend more and wait longer for Pfizer over others. Otherwise why wouldnt NZ buy AZ and get it sooner?



From ABC:

New Zealand will buy additional COVID-19 vaccines, developed by Pfizer Inc and Germany's BioNTech, which will be enough to vaccinate the whole country, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says.

The government has signed an agreement to buy an extra 8.5 million doses, enough to vaccinate over 4 million people, Ardern said, adding the vaccines were expected to reach the country in the second half of the year.

"This brings our total Pfizer order to 10 million doses or enough for 5 million people to get the two shots needed to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19," Ardern said in a statement.

The government's original agreement with Pfizer was for 1.5 million doses, enough to vaccinate 750,000 people.

Ardern said the decision to make Pfizer the country's primary vaccine provider was taken after it was shown to be about 95% effective at preventing symptomatic infection.

New Zealand started its national rollout of the Pfizer-BioNTech's COVID-19 vaccine last month and expects to inoculate its entire population by the end of the year.

So basically just using the Pfizer spin from the Phase 3 trial.
Phase 3 trials do not necessarily give a precise answer.Real life experience with higher numbers of vaccinations are much better.And AZ does well in real life as I have linked on several occasions.

And just another reason the Phase 3 trials may be misleading.If the trial is done when numbers of positive cases are rising you are more likely to get an accurate result than if done when numbers are falling.

 

[VPS]

Oh, when did Scotland leave the UK?

2026

 

[Flashback]

2026

Looking forward to my first overseas trip there ex-UK PL (Post-Lockdown)

 

[Myrna]

@Pushka - there is a thread in flyertalk written by c-w-s about "what if you have a phobia against needle injections?". Worth reading for people like your son (as well as me and some of my relatives). Here is the link - Coronavirus / COVID-19 : general fact-based reporting - FlyerTalk Forums. [PS - I have never met c-w-s, but when we lost our first dog in London at the end of 2012, he offered to have our dog buried on his farm as he has buried some of his dogs there, but we decided to cremate our dog and will bring the ashes home when we fly home this year.]

 

[TheRealTMA]

Interesting article

Dr Fauci praises Australia's Covid lockdowns: 'Viruses don't mutate unless they replicate'

White House medical adviser discusses challenge of containing variants in online chat with Paul Kelly

www.theguardian.com

 

[drron]

Some more vaccine developements.For those with a needle phobia Finland is aiming to develope a nasal vaccine.

Welcome to Precision Vaccinations News

Precision Vaccinations News publishes vaccine news patients can trust to make informed immunization decisions in partnership with doctors, nurses, and pharmacists.

www.coronavirustoday.com

More on the Israeli results.

Israeli Study Offers First Real-World Glimpse of COVID-19 Vaccines in Action

There are many reasons to be excited about the three COVID-19 vaccines that are now getting into arms across the U.S. At the top of the list is their extremely high level of safety and protection a…

directorsblog.nih.gov

Fully vaccinated individuals in the USA can gather indoors en mass with other fully vaccinated individuals without masks.

Fully vaccinated people can gather indoors without masks, CDC says

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommendations also say that vaccinated people can gather without precautions with unvaccinated people considered at low-risk for severe disease from COVID-19.

www.newsday.com

Did you note in those 2 articles on how the vaccinations were being done?

An Indian covid vaccine has good Phase 3 results.

Welcome to Precision Vaccinations News

Precision Vaccinations News publishes vaccine news patients can trust to make informed immunization decisions in partnership with doctors, nurses, and pharmacists.

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[HappyFlyerFamily]

US travelling well

16m jabs under the previous administration and 77m jabs under the current administration

61m (about 18%) have had at least 1 jab, including 32m (9.6%) fully vaccinated.

 

[mrs.dr.ron]

 

[drron]

Though the smaller states in the US are doing a bit better than the larger states.Or North v South.



And we are not alone in countries slower in vaccinating.Many haven't even started and travel won't be back to normal until a large % of the world's population is vaccinated.


Though Greece is hopefully opening up to vacccinated folk from May.

Report: Greece Reopening To Tourists Next Week

Greece claims to be reopening to tourists from around the world as of May 14, and that timeline may now be moved forward even further.

onemileatatime.com

 

[clifford]

Though Greece is hopefully opening up to vacccinated folk from May.

Unfortunately, Greece seems to be returning to a police state (as I first remember it). Such a pity.

Greek PM appeals for peace after police brutality ignites riots

Protests sparked by video clips of police officer beating man with iron baton for breaking Covid restrictions

www.theguardian.com

 

[Flashback]

Though the smaller states in the US are doing a bit better than the larger states.Or North v South.

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And we are not alone in countries slower in vaccinating.Many haven't even started and travel won't be back to normal until a large % of the world's population is vaccinated.
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Though Greece is hopefully opening up to vacccinated folk from May.

Report: Greece Reopening To Tourists Next Week

Greece claims to be reopening to tourists from around the world as of May 14, and that timeline may now be moved forward even further.

onemileatatime.com

Unfortunately that info isn't quite right as I have friends in those West African countries who have had the jab...

 

[jeza]

Hopefully just an abundance of caution

Oxford-AstraZeneca: EU says 'no indication' vaccine linked to clots

The EU's medicines regulator reassures states after several countries suspended use of the vaccine.

www.bbc.com

 

[Pushka]

Hopefully just an abundance of caution

Oxford-AstraZeneca: EU says 'no indication' vaccine linked to clots

The EU's medicines regulator reassures states after several countries suspended use of the vaccine.

www.bbc.com

Some people, like me, can just develop blood clots. Hopefully this is exactly the same and its discovered to be an individual issue.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Sigh....potential Moderna concern???

Mum dies after second COVID-19 jab

A “healthy” single mum with no known pre-existing medical conditions has died four days after she received her second dose of the Moderna coronavirus vaccine, however there is no suggestion that the death is linked to the vaccine.

www.news.com.au

 

[Pushka]

Sigh....potential Moderna concern???

Mum dies after second COVID-19 jab

A “healthy” single mum with no known pre-existing medical conditions has died four days after she received her second dose of the Moderna coronavirus vaccine, however there is no suggestion that the death is linked to the vaccine.

www.news.com.au

People die sadly. And not related. Just like blood clots present every day.

 

[DC3]

People die sadly. And not related. Just like blood clots present every day.

Yes. The deaths seem to be within the norm, from what I’ve been reading.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

People die sadly. And not related. Just like blood clots present every day.

Yes. The deaths seem to be within the norm, from what I’ve been reading.

Liver failure in a person without pre-existing illnesses (ie a.k.a. otherwise healthy).....sounds a bit more significant.

 

[drron]

Yes blood clots really are common.Although I work usually work in small regional hospitals I would normally see 2-3 people a week with blood clots.They are even more frequent in those with cancers.If you see a blood clot in an older person you should test for cancer and often you will find it.
These are exactly the people who are being vaccinated initially.

A couple of other vaccine related pieces of information.First the EU has authorised the Janssen vaccine

European Commission authorises fourth COVID-19 vaccine

The European Commission has granted a conditional marketing authorisation (CMA) for the COVID‑19 vaccine developed by Janssen Pharmaceutica NV, one of the Janssen Pharmaceutical Companies of Johnson & Johnson, the fourth COVID-19 vaccine authorised in the EU."This authorisation follows a...

dgalerts.docguide.com

Not so serious but with mRNA vaccines there may be delayed local reactions.

Delayed large local reactions to mRNA-1273 COVID-19 vaccine

A case series published in The New England Journal of Medicine details delayed large local reactions to the mRNA-1273 coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) vaccine.Kimberly G. Blumenthal, MD, Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston, Massachusetts, and colleagues noted that in a Phase III clinical...

dgalerts.docguide.com

 

[Pushka]

Liver failure in a person without pre-existing illnesses (ie a.k.a. otherwise healthy).....sounds a bit more significant.

Maybe it’s my age (older) but people die suddenly. And we all wonder why. No reason for it. I’ve had three in the last 6 months.

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Yes blood clots really are common.Although I work usually work in small regional hospitals I would normally see 2-3 people a week with blood clots.They are even more frequent in those with cancers.If you see a blood clot in an older person you should test for cancer and often you will find it.
These are exactly the people who are being vaccinated initially.

A couple of other vaccine related pieces of information.First the EU has authorised the Janssen vaccine

European Commission authorises fourth COVID-19 vaccine

The European Commission has granted a conditional marketing authorisation (CMA) for the COVID‑19 vaccine developed by Janssen Pharmaceutica NV, one of the Janssen Pharmaceutical Companies of Johnson & Johnson, the fourth COVID-19 vaccine authorised in the EU."This authorisation follows a...

dgalerts.docguide.com

Not so serious but with mRNA vaccines there may be delayed local reactions.

Delayed large local reactions to mRNA-1273 COVID-19 vaccine

A case series published in The New England Journal of Medicine details delayed large local reactions to the mRNA-1273 coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) vaccine.Kimberly G. Blumenthal, MD, Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston, Massachusetts, and colleagues noted that in a Phase III clinical...

dgalerts.docguide.com

I had so many tests for cancer after mine.