Getting the Most out of flybuys?

[lovetravellingoz]

Try swiping your FlyBuys card twice at Coles - once at the start of your transaction and then once again after you have paid, ie. so that it is registered for the following customer. I have been doing this for a few months now and I get away with it about half the time. Occassionally, the check out operator will notice and sometimes the following customer will, but worth a try. Hmm, is this wrong?

Cheers, M

Is theft wrong??? Well if I took your points would you be happy???

It is certainly illegal.....why not shopflift as well while you are there and gain greater reward immediately?????



PS...if one of the many following people ever query where their points went and a human looks at it.....your account will have clear record of repeated transactions......most probably with Coles being able to see that half the transactions have a huge variety of different names.....

Apart from the morals of the situation.....is it really worth the points which are not worth much vs the rissk ofa criminal record????

 

[simongr]

Whilst I agree with the sentiment I am not sure on the practicality. If you go after this person you will swipe your own card and I assume that overrides the prior card so people are unlikely to lose points - the only loss is to the vendor.

 

[Alanslegal]

Try swiping your FlyBuys card twice at Coles - once at the start of your transaction and then once again after you have paid, ie. so that it is registered for the following customer. I have been doing this for a few months now and I get away with it about half the time. Occassionally, the check out operator will notice and sometimes the following customer will, but worth a try. Hmm, is this wrong?

Cheers, M

reminds me of the Chaser stunt at Apec......got waved through by the squillions of police & security only to get caught and now it is more than likely the charges would be dropped......

same here, hand FB card in hope of double entries, get caught, only to have your points reversed............nothing else.....

 

[Chicken]

I never got anything until they got those $20 cash value cards. My points would just expire after 3 years, because everything in reward catalogue need at least 11000 points, and even those stuffs are discontinued models worth nothing.

Now I can use 2500 points to get $20 voucher, which I do get a voucher maybe once every nine months?

But yeah, it is pointless like everyone else said. Coles would be better off spending that money on improving their supply chain and make prices lower for us, or pay the farmers and truckies more, instead of running Fly Buys, but hey, it is Coles.

 

[serfty]

... But yeah, it is pointless like everyone else said. Coles would be better off spending that money on improving their supply chain and make prices lower for us, or pay the farmers and truckies more, instead of running Fly Buys, but hey, it is Coles.

Actually, 'tis not pointless for Coles. With every use of Flybuys a customer/consumer profile database is enhanced.

Information stored therein can then be Summarised, on sold and otherwise used to increase profitability.

 

[Chicken]

Actually, 'tis not pointless for Coles. With every use of Flybuys a customer/consumer profile database is enhanced.

Information stored therein can then be Summarised, on sold and otherwise used to increase profitability.

Only if they use these to target market. I had never received anything that is specifically targeted at me to make me spend more money. All the junk mail I got from them are generic that everyone else is receiving.

 

[serfty]

Nothing really to do with any 'FlyBuys' specific offer.

They use information like where you live, what you buy and where you buy it to profile you (and your family)/regions/products to build information structures for analysis.

 

[oz_mark]

I have had the odd specific offer over time, but mostly just generic things. While they may have the ability to trawl their database to enhance their product offering, the recent perfromance of the comany suggests that they either have not been doing it, or they have been doing it wrong.

 

[tintin]

so is it best to redeem points for flights or cash cards???
what gets me dollars per point??

 

[SnowYeti]

I think cash cards is the best option, the others don't really seem to give any value. Plus you'd need to spend alot of points anyway! I use fly buys just to shut them up, I think I get like $20 a year in Coles vouchers. Sad really.
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[odysseus]

I was thinking whenever this long-winded Qantas/Woolworths tie in comes to fruition, it might be an opportunity for flybuys. to get beefed up again. As it stands, it's doing nothing - aside from the scale back of providers, and reduction in earnings in the last year, they've also eliminated all everyday bonus offers in that time.

 

[oz_mark]

I was thinking whenever this long-winded Qantas/Woolworths tie in comes to fruition, it might be an opportunity for flybuys. to get beefed up again. As it stands, it's doing nothing - aside from the scale back of providers, and reduction in earnings in the last year, they've also eliminated all everyday bonus offers in that time.

You can get bonus points for loading up on easter eggs. But, yes, that's been about it for quite some time.

 

[basic]

Hahaha - How Bad FlyBuys Really Is

Blog post on ausloyalty.ning.com:

Average FlyBuys member takes 1.5 years to earn a $20 reward. Haha.

There's more info on how the stat is calculated in the blog post. Hilarious.

Here: Flybuys Post

I mean, we all know how bad FlyBuys is already, but you know.

 

[albatross710]

Re: Hahaha - How Bad FlyBuys Really Is

They certainly have lost their way.

Wonder how long Flybuys will last now that Woolies card post QF points every week and dramatically increasing their prominence on the QFF statements.

 

[medhead]

Re: Hahaha - How Bad FlyBuys Really Is

It's a shame the guy has got confused by business days.

For a start he says:

there are 307 FlyBuys points issued every second of every business day

Interesting, but fly buys points can be earned on non business days. Yes Coles and Kmart, etc. are open on weekends. How many points are issued per second on weekends? not to mentions that flybuys points can also be earned on a few of the lesser public holidays.

Then there is this little gem:

There's 240 business days in a year (48 working weeks, 5 business days a week).

There may be 48 working weeks in a year, but there are actually 52 business weeks a year (if we ignore public holidays as the author has). Just because I might be taking my 4 weeks annual leave, it doesn't suddenly turn monday to friday into non-business days.

 

[serfty]

If there was a Coles nearby, I'd earn more FlyBuys ...

Recently traded 7 months worth of FB use for 2 x $20 stored value cards ...

 

[samh004]

Re: Hahaha - How Bad FlyBuys Really Is

To be fair, you have to work out what monetary value the points you earn would be.

At a cent a point I've already earned over $10 with EDR, so I see they really do need to play the catch-up game now, and possibly do it soon so QF and Woolies see a need to keep adding more earning potential.

 

[odysseus]

Re: Hahaha - How Bad FlyBuys Really Is

It's a shame the guy has got confused by business days.

For a start he says:



Interesting, but fly buys points can be earned on non business days. Yes Coles and Kmart, etc. are open on weekends.

To be fair, he got that quote from a message flybuys themselves sent, and they didn't give any other stats.

I would have taken a different tack, but one which also puts them in a bad light. At 307 points per second, that means that only $767.50 is being charged to a flybuys. account each second (based on the 1 point for every $2.50 earning rate). This equals $46,050 a minute, or $2,763,000 an hour, or $22,104,000 a day. Some merchants only give 1 for $5, but then others give 5,000 bonus points for certain transactions, so it should come out in the wash.

If you look at the number of stores and chains that offer flybuys all around Australia, what their revenue is, and the number of customers they have, that means there's fairly little usage of the card now in effect. It works both ways though. Many customers won't use it if they don't perceive a return.

 

[medhead]

Re: Hahaha - How Bad FlyBuys Really Is

To be fair, he got that quote from a message flybuys themselves sent, and they didn't give any other stats.


If you look at the number of stores and chains that offer flybuys all around Australia, what their revenue is, and the number of customers they have, that means there's fairly little usage of the card now in effect. It works both ways though. Many customers won't use it if they don't perceive a return.

Yeah, I should have said it was a fair effort based on limited information.

And it is pretty poor usage per person as you work it out. But hey, I've got one or two fly buys cards somewhere and I wouldn't dream of using them. Depsite that my FIL has got a free ADL-PER flight and a telescope and some other stuff from flybuys in the last 10 years.

 

[Mal]

Re: Hahaha - How Bad FlyBuys Really Is

To be fair, he got that quote from a message flybuys themselves sent, and they didn't give any other stats.

Actually, the Twitter Flybuys rep @flybuys (assuming they are from the company ... you don't always know!) did make another funny comment recently:

"Did you know that "Have you got FlyBuys?" is asked over 45 times per second in Australia?"

And to think the number of points are still very low that are earnt every second...