I had attended a computer show in London in December ā95 and MrsTMA flew into LHR after the show so we could spend Xmas in uk and Italy, and since I had been co sponsored for my J flight, I treated her to her first J flight (KLM out of SYD). On meeting her out of immigration, her first words were not ānice to see youā, but āIām never flying cattle class again.ā And we never have. Then EK upgraded us from J to F for SYD CHC on a trip for my birthday in 2009. That ruined us further and have never flown long hall āsteerageā, that is J, since then.