Hotel Management penny pinching with aircon motion sensors

[Franky]

Agreed, almost all airlines set it too hot for me. Some are worst offenders than others. I’ve actually found Qantas one of the best for not overheating the cabin though. Even then I have seen on the screen the cabin crew set the temp at 24 degrees at sleep time.

Getting away from hotels, I understood when I was last in Japan around 2012, they had a legislated max temperature of 22c from memory for the entire country. As is their want, the locals adhered to it pretty much. I was also of the understanding that the EU has a suggested max temp of 24c. In my own home, my AC handbook suggests 24c when it is needed. Any thoughts on that?

 

[VPS]

This was introduced last year.

My argument is you can always put on more clothes to keep warm but it's harder to get cool.

I think ideal sleeping temperature is below 16

Spain has announced new energy-saving measures, including limits on air conditioning and heating temperatures in public and large commercial buildings, as it becomes the latest European country to seek to reduce its energy consumption and its dependence on Russian oil and gas.

Under a decree that comes into effect in seven days’ time and applies to public buildings, shopping centres, cinemas, theatres, rail stations and airports, heating should not be set above 19C and air conditioning should not be set below 27C. Doors will need to be closed so as not to waste energy, and lights in shop windows must be switched off after 10pm.


The premises in question will be required to display signs or screens that explain the energy-saving initiatives.

 

[Spacetravel]

This was introduced last year.

My argument is you can always put on more clothes to keep warm but it's harder to get cool.

I think ideal sleeping temperature is below 16

Spain has announced new energy-saving measures, including limits on air conditioning and heating temperatures in public and large commercial buildings, as it becomes the latest European country to seek to reduce its energy consumption and its dependence on Russian oil and gas.

Under a decree that comes into effect in seven days’ time and applies to public buildings, shopping centres, cinemas, theatres, rail stations and airports, heating should not be set above 19C and air conditioning should not be set below 27C. Doors will need to be closed so as not to waste energy, and lights in shop windows must be switched off after 10pm.


The premises in question will be required to display signs or screens that explain the energy-saving initiatives.

So basically the mandate is for everyone to be uncomfortable all the time.

 

[Guvner]

27 degrees in an airport. No thanks.
Glad I've already done a few Spain trips.

 

[exceladdict]

Getting away from hotels, I understood when I was last in Japan around 2012, they had a legislated max temperature of 22c from memory for the entire country. As is their want, the locals adhered to it pretty much. I was also of the understanding that the EU has a suggested max temp of 24c. In my own home, my AC handbook suggests 24c when it is needed. Any thoughts on that?

In our stay in sweden earlier this year, we really would have liked the room to be warmer, but couldn’t figure out if/how it was possible.

 

[Mattg]

I'm far more concerned about the temperature in aircraft cabins for overnight flights - certain airlines set the temp waaay too high, given that you are wearing clothes (of one sort or another) and under the provided blanket!

Very true. On other airlines though, it can also be the opposite. I normally prefer a cooler cabin temperature but was shivering on a recent LH A380 flight. Most other pax were wearing jumpers, getting extra blankets, etc. - I wonder at what point the crew might have noticed and notched up the temperature by a degree or two?

 

[justinbrett]

I'm far more concerned about the temperature in aircraft cabins for overnight flights - certain airlines set the temp waaay too high, given that you are wearing clothes (of one sort or another) and under the provided blanket!

The main reason why I don't wear QF PJs.

 

[jkbaus]

I hate the cold and try to go on a few weeks holiday during Sydney winter.

I take a coat and pashmina on planes and often ask for extra blanket.
First thing I do when I get to hotel room is turn up aircon.

In S E Asia I hate the aircon in many cafes/restaurants, galleries, malls, etc.
I need to carry a scarf and jacket/cardi which is a nuisance when I am walking around outside. Constant temperature changes are perfect for me to catch a cold if I don’t.
When our and about in high temp humid conditions I put a damp cloth on the back of my neck if necessary.

I moved to an apartment a couple of years ago and had an aircon for the first time. Turned it on a couple of times for a few hours in the afternoon last summer.

I do have ceiling fans for air circulation.

 

[Mattg]

This one is not on a timer, but just turns off once it reaches the desired temperature.

 

[Must...Fly!]

This one is not on a timer, but just turns off once it reaches the desired temperature.

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Another one for the blacklist!

 

[Captain Halliday]

I expect this thread could become quite long over time.

A spreadsheet or database of hotels that use this practice would be handy.

Something that could be searched quickly and easily before making a booking.

 

[I love to travel]

Conrad Singapore Centennial retrofitting this to all rooms currently. It must be working for the Hilton chain in Singapore!!

 

[Lynda2475]

Stayed at Rydges Gold Coast Airport last Wednesday, room wasa comfortable 22C (the recommended setting in Aus is 22-23 degrees for commercial buildings) but at some point overnight it switched off and I awoke a little warm at 25c.

 

[Mwenenzi]

HGI in Singapore has sensors that will turn off the lights / electricity if no movement for an extended period. IIRC it didn't turn off the AC but the AC temp went up to 24 degrees or something.

I was watching TV drink in hand (lying on the bed) and I thought there was a blackout. When I called reception they said it was probably a faulty sensor so sent up the engineer, who I think bypassed it.

Going back in the thread
Have read of people using a USB mini fan in a laptop- usb plug overnight to keep motion sensors happy~active.

https://www.amazon.com.au/Sokelinn-six-Flexible-Portable-Cooling-Powered/dp/B0BY1V4KDB/ref=zg_bs_g_4913487051_d_sccl_30/355-6797937-9945908?psc=1

 

[p--and--t]

Motion sensor on the A/c overnight is no no in my book. If the hotel advertises it is aircon’d then that means it is available for use without interference when I am in the room. Being a bit tight i often avoid 5* because of the cost. Staying in 3.5-4 they often have the keycard thing on the door for when you go out, but on more than on occasion in mid summer the housekeeping have dropped by with a dummy key to leave in the slot all the time. (Saves me having to ask for hotel business card at the desk )

 

[Spacetravel]

Conrad Singapore Centennial retrofitting this to all rooms currently. It must be working for the Hilton chain in Singapore!!

This is really testing my loyalty to Hilton. I stay at “all” the Hilton properties in Singapore and I may find a new chain after this. The HGI is unbearable, the orchard road Hilton isn’t as bad as HGI but still makes for an uncomfortable stay. I’ve been staying at Conrad centennial but at over $500sg a night most the time, I expect a working air conditioner. The only way this behaviour stops is if we raise the issue with the hotel and make enough noise about it. Earlier up the thread someone said they ask for a refund if the property does this. If the motion sensor aircon isn’t advertised at booking, I’m going to start asking for a refund on my stays.

 

[Quickstatus]

No problems with AC motion sensor given that I'm a Tosser and Turner by trade

 

[Lynda2475]

I find the motion sensor is rarely pointed at the bed, so tossing and turning not enough.

 

[Captain Halliday]

Would be good to know what these sensors look like.

I’ve googled and can find impressive glossy brochures from the companies selling these systems, but they all carefully omit pictures of the sensor.

I guess it’s too late once you check in, but handy to know what we’re looking for.

Pics appreciated.

 

[MelMel]

How To Override Hotel Thermostat Settings (Updated September, 2023)

As we wrote a while back, modern hotel thermostats are, in a word, a pain. Well over a decade ago, we noticed the kind of thermostat where you were supposed…

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This is US based but essentially what you are looking to do is get the thermostat in VIP mode which will override motion sensors and pre-set temperatures for 24 hours.
Or ask the hotel to set it to VIP mode for your stay.