How long will QF use DSC promos - Your guess?

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The DSC promos have been around for quite some time. The first time I came across and used them was in 2019 but QF had offered DSC's already on many years before that.

What's your guess, how permanent is this as a sales promo? Or how many years do you think this kind of offering might have left?

I wish they are more or less permanent but those do change. There surely would be inducements for frequent flyers to remain engaged and thev double status / points seems to work for them at the moment.
 
The DSC promos have been around for quite some time. The first time I came across and used them was in 2019 but QF had offered DSC's already on many years before that.

What's your guess, how permanent is this as a sales promo? Or how many years do you think this kind of offering might have left?

I wish they are more or less permanent but those do change. There surely would be inducements for frequent flyers to remain engaged and thev double status / points seems to work for them at the moment.
I suspect for quite a while. They've most certainly studied the effects of DSC and how much it affects their forward bookings.

Whether it remains semi predictable might be a different story. Perhaps it becomes targeted in the future instead.
 
I suspect for quite a while. They've most certainly studied the effects of DSC and how much it affects their forward bookings.

Whether it remains semi predictable might be a different story. Perhaps it becomes targeted in the future instead.
I remember doing a DSC run in J down the east coast at least 15 years ago so they have been around a while - the guy in the seat next to me was doing the same thing :)
 
I'm guessing indefinitely as it seems to yield nice sales spikes for QF and as is often said, status doesn't really cost them much to hand out unless pax are actually flying and using the benefits. They don't appear too perturbed about lounge overcrowding - especially when there's the odd QC sale.

Doubt they'll ever get to the level of VA's triple status credits but in this crazy world I wouldn't rule it out 100%!

Chasing SCs is limited to a subset of the QFF population, according to my totally unscientific poll of responses to the DSC campaigns.
 
Hopefully another 16 years by which stage I might be LTP 😂
Haha, this invites the question of the most yield possible in a status run. If money was no obstacle, you'd construct an outsized RTW with maximum use of QF. I wonder how many base SC's could you get, plus then the doubles for QF segments?
 
For many getting to LTG would be out of reach or take a lot longer without DSC promos to help along the way. I am on track to get to LTG many years before I would have got to it without DSC.

For QF the sugar hit of additional revenue is worth more people getting status. If you are relying on DSC to get/retain status you are probably extracting a lot less value from that status than someone who earns it without that and flies much more often.
 
For QF the sugar hit of additional revenue is worth more people getting status. If you are relying on DSC to get/retain status you are probably extracting a lot less value from that status than someone who earns it without that and flies much more often.
I disagree on that second part.

You can be flying Y 60+ times a year and without DSC never hit platinum. Gold, but not necessarily platinum (as you could be on non earning partners for example). Thats where having DSC really helps you out to achieve it without a status run.
 
as you could be on non earning partners for example
I hope no regulars here don’t *ever* do that often - maybe by accident!

OT, but of course, booking a QF codeshare on a partner will *always* earn QF points/SCs of some sort and then obviously better $/SC than booking direct with say CX on a non earn fare class (or the rooky mistake - book direct with EK and wonder why there were no SCs).

The oldest record of QF DSC offers I found was Nov 2010 for “International Flights”, Nov 2011 was flights to HKG and then again (HKG) in 2012 followed shortly by a general DSC in late 2012 before switching to the annual DSC in late Q1/early Q2.

I always sign up for them but have actually not used them that often. I can’t see getting to P1 in a year off personal spend or reaching LTP any faster….😳.
 
More likely, they'll wake up and realise that they can charge users a fee to opt in to double status credit promotions.
Our company runs that exact tech/offer for another oneworld airline, performs extraordinarily well.

Qantas - send me a DM
 
I think the most pertinent question here is how many elite members do they have in the various elite levels (Silver, Gold, Platinum, etc.) and how does that compare to other airlines? One thing people constantly forget about Qantas is that the frequent flyer program is only applicable to Aussies (maybe Kiwis if we're being generous). The reason being is you need to fly 4 segments with Qantas Group airlines. That would be very tricky indeed for most travellers. Now contrast that with a program like United or British Airways. If you travel enough internationally you can make it work. After all, United has an extensive network to the Americas and BA for Europe. And no, I'm not picking on those airlines, you can make the exact same argument for Air Canada's Aeroplan too (in fact one could argue it's even easier since spend in CAD is one of the basis used for calculating status). The only reason you'd fly Qantas is if you plan on coming to Australia. And as popular a destination as Sydney or Cairns may be to you or I, it's not very popular globally.

So now that we've established that it's mainly Aussies who will ultimately earn status on Qantas the next question is how to attract them over? For Aussies primarily travelling internationally, Qantas is in a bit of a pickle there as there are numerous airlines that offer better elite benefits, better fares and schedules and service. For instance, United Premier 1Ks (equivalent to P1). get upgrade credits they can use to upgrade long haul flights on United, Lufthansa and ANA. The only way Qantas can beat them is in how simple it is to earn status. Qantas is one of the last remaining airlines to base status largely on miles flown and class of service. In terms of domestic market well we've got Virgin Australia to worry about. Indeed, Virgin Australia regularly offers fares for less than Qantas, and it's even easier to earn status with Virgin (notwithstanding the recent enhancements, more on that later). Notwithstanding what Virgin fanatics may say, Qantas easily has better benefits of the 2 programs though. But for the business traveller perhaps on a BFOD policy, it's hard to justify booking QF. However, if a DSC promotion comes up, it can become more justifiable to spend the extra $40 or $100 over to MEL or CNS versus Virgin.

To the point of the thread which is whether these promotions will go away. That's always a possibility. I don't want to jinx anything but it has been quite some time since Qantas has "enhanced" their frequent flyer program. And given that Virgin Australia has already done so, one must wonder whether Qantas' turn will come up shortly. One thing to keep in mind is that Qantas' has already built the capacity to support the elites they have. So if they do enhance the program resulting in there being substantially fewer elites, they will be sitting on excess capacity which may be a waste of resources. For instance, at most major Australian airports, Qantas operates two domestic lounges: a Qantas Club (for Gold frequent flyers and Qantas Club members) and a Business lounge (for Platinums and those in business class). Consequently, we don't see the lounges being rammed in the same way say a Delta lounge can easily become. Notwithstanding the reservations I have with catering and general upkeep of the Qantas lounges, they are doing quite a good job managing expectations.

-RooFlyer88
 
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