Indonesia Air Asia flight QZ 8501 loses contact with ATC

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Not looking good - BBC Live Updates just reported:

"Debris is "from AirAsia plane" says Indonesian civil aviation chief, according to AFP."

"Indonesian media are reporting that bodies have been sighted in the water. First Lt Tri Wibowo told Kompas.com website that luggage and a life vest had also been seen."

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-asia-30630322
 
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Not looking good - BBC Live Updates just reported:

"Debris is "from AirAsia plane" says Indonesian civil aviation chief, according to AFP."

"Indonesian media are reporting that bodies have been sighted in the water. First Lt Tri Wibowo told Kompas.com website that luggage and a life vest had also been seen."

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-asia-30630322
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Sad confirmation, but now the long process to determine what happened can begin
 
Unfortunate situation.

*wears flame suit* Another angle to look at, whether the pilot's state of mind could have affected his flying (and whether the accident was deliberate)?

Maybe I've been reading too much speculation and conspiracy theories.

Finding the remains is a start to finding the answers, speculation at this stage is not going to help anything.
 
Is it correct to assume that if the aircraft is on the seabed as increasingly reported, the black (orange) box will be relatively easy to recover?
 
Is it correct to assume that if the aircraft is on the seabed as increasingly reported, the black (orange) box will be relatively easy to recover?

Who knows, the aircraft may be on the seabed but exhibiting the characteristics of a can dropped from a great height, very little info is known. Love the so called journalists nee avgeeks voicing their opinions with zero SAR experience :evil:
 
Such a sad ending. My heart goes out to all the families of those affected. May those that lost their lives rest in peace.
 
Finding the remains is a start to finding the answers, speculation at this stage is not going to help anything.

I guess we can close down this thread until the final official accident report is published?

Until then, good or bad speculation will continue to occur from all sorts of sources, media, online, social media, here. Rightly or wrongly, it will continue. It won't bring back the plane or reverse the tragic circumstances but at this stage, speculation, again the good and bad, the accurate and not so accurate parts, is what we have to discuss - and what will be spun around and around everywhere - until the final report is published.
 
I think it will be a relief to families, friends and the travelling public that the aircraft was found quickly, and in the area where it should have been. Recovery of loved ones and the search for explanations can commence. Such a stark contrast to MH370.
 
*wears flame suit* Another angle to look at, whether the pilot's state of mind could have affected his flying (and whether the accident was deliberate)?

Maybe I've been reading too much speculation and conspiracy theories.

You need much more than a flame suit.
 
While not an Australian incident and not in any way specifically related to the tragedy unfolding, this runway overshoot could not have come at a worse time for AirAsia (notwithstanding that airlines bearing the name have a variety of ownership arrangements):

AirAsia plane overshoots Kalibo runway | News | GMA News Online

The brief report suggests that thankfully, no one was injured but this requires confirmation.

Here is one copied from a Filipino source with some photos:

http://www.news.com.au/world/asia/a...d-in-an-incident/story-fnh81fz8-1227170541671

https://twitter.com/jetdsantos?original_referer=http://

Kalibo (KLO) is an international airport with direct flights from South Korea and elsewhere for Boracay-bound tourists. Caticlan (MPH) on the island of Panay is extremely close to Boracay Island but has a runway less than 1000 metres long so it only plays host to turboprops and cannot host flights during night hours. Kalibo is increasingly used by Australians who are gradually getting to know about Boracay's four kilometre long white powdery sand beach. It's a 90 minute coach trip from it to Caticlan. KLO is also a substitute for MPH because to or from the latter, there are severe luggage restrictions such as a maximum of 10 kilograms in the hold per passenger if I recall.
 
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Kalibo (KLO) is an international airport with direct flights from South Korea and elsewhere for Boracay-bound tourists. Caticlan (MPH) on the island of Panay is extremely close to Boracay Island but has a runway less than 1000 metres long so it only plays host to turboprops and cannot host flights during night hours. Kalibo is increasingly used by Australians who are gradually getting to know about Boracay's four kilometre long white powdery sand beach. It's a 90 minute coach trip from it to Caticlan. KLO is also a substitute for MPH because to or from the latter, there are severe luggage restrictions such as a maximum of 10 kilograms in the hold per passenger if I recall.

Most of the above has no relevance whatsoever. Kalibo is 2300 metres long. Who cares how long another runway nearby is?
 
Thai description rather light on info, so could be a whole lot of BS regarding the actual aircraft, but video seems to match the BBC report I saw earlier tonight.
 
jb747, the relevance is that KLO is far busier due to the limitations of the closest airport next to a major tourist destination, one visited by Australians. Therefore, a flight landing at KLO is quite likely to have an Australian or two on board if it has originated in MNL. If you regard the information as irrelevant, fine, but it paints a picture, something that many journalists do extremely well in our mainstream media despite the increasing pressures by media management to cut corners.
 
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