Is QF considering Lifetime Platinum?

[juddles]

Agreed. In the unlikely event it does happen, more likely to be 36k in my view (LTS is equivalent to 10 years of G, LTG is equivalent to 10 years of P, so LTP 10 years of P1).

Not sure I agree with the inherent assumption that LT status on one level is calculated from the next level up. What I mean is that LTS is approx 20 years at Silver, LTG is approx 20 years at Gold. So 20 years at Platinum is those 28,000 SC. And thus in this scenario you could gain LTP1 at 72,000 SC

Just another angle to interpret the maths

And my scenario feels to me to be fair

 

[mviy]

Well currently the next level up is exact whereas 20 years of earning Silver having not had it would be 6000 not 7000.

 

[juddles]

Well currently the next level up is exact whereas 20 years of earning Silver having not had it would be 6000 not 7000.

You dare to use sound mathematics when dealing with QF??

In the real world "most" FF would be retaining, not gaining, the level of status - and the 10 year comments are based on the "gain", not "retain" SC requirements. Hence why I used the "approx"

And who knows why QF decided that silver is almost, but not quite, half gold, when gold is exactly half of platinum?

And just to stuff any serious understanding of their metrics, P1 has equal SC requirements for gain or retain.

 

[mviy]

I hope I’m wrong but I’d be surprised if LTP required as little as 28,000 SC if it was introduced.

 

[kermatu]

A thread I participated in a few years ago discussed an idea for QF to consider whereby LTG's would only require 600SC's per year to re-qualify for WP (or 800SC's to achieve WP status). For those LTG's who wish to remain/obtain WP status, then this scheme would ensure at least some maintenance of loyalty to QF - this would probably be more palatable to QF than implementing a LTP status. LTG status does not carry any benefits for those who maintain WP through 1200 (1100 these days) SC earn - good for retirement though.

Only commenting on my own situation, but if I could get WP through just 600 SCs then QF would definitely lose a fair chunk of my business right now while I am flying a lot. It would also see the J and F lounges more crowded if people who fly enough to obtain SG can get into the better lounges.

Would be a great benefit for others, and I see how it would generate some additional business, but don't think it would be a valid option and given how many LTGs there probably are I can't see this happening.

 

[opusman]

Didn't the SC requirement for silver drop a while back?

 

[kermatu]

I hope I’m wrong but I’d be surprised if LTP required as little as 28,000 SC if it was introduced.

I don't think it would ever be 28,000 either - and I hope I'm right.

It could even be something totally unrelated, like 10 years as a P1. Proven loyalty to QF, not just OW. Would keep numbers down.

But unlikely to be attained by many and therefore also unlikely to have the 'pull' factor that would generate more business.

 

[JohnK]

Qantas does not need Lifetime Platinum.

 

[JessicaTam]

Yes. No more "anytime access" for CL's

So CL’s will have to be flying QF, OneWorld or Emirates to Access the FLounge. So if QF wants to do LTP this is a logical preparatory step.

Thanks for that.

 

[Pushka]

Qantas does not need Lifetime Platinum.

Did it need LTG coz that’s where a fall off occurs.

 

[oz_mark]

Didn't the SC requirement for silver drop a while back?

Yes - it used to be half gold. So 350 to attain and 300 to renew.

 

[JohnK]

Did it need LTG coz that’s where a fall off occurs.

That's the sweet spot for everyone.

Also if someone attains Lifetime Gold they start to credit elsewhere. These same people will do same thing with Lifetime Platinum. In fact they may not credit to Qantas at all if they have Lifetime Platinum except where they may have First lounge access.

Where to next? Lifetime Platinum One?

 

[JessicaTam]

That's the sweet spot for everyone.

Also if someone attains Lifetime Gold they start to credit elsewhere. These same people will do same thing with Lifetime Platinum. In fact they may not credit to Qantas at all if they have Lifetime Platinum except where they may have First lounge access.

Where to next? Lifetime Platinum One?

LTP is a lot more aspirational than LTG. I doubt I would get to even close after I eventually get to LTG, but I would at least keep crediting flights to QF as opposed to an alternative airline program.

 

[cwphoto]

Didn't the SC requirement for silver drop a while back?

Yes; was 300 to retain (half of gold, quarter of platinum).

 

[Hvr]

Noting that BA has recently introduced lifetime Emerald status perhaps QF are seeing how that turns out? Has anybody attained that level yet? And if so what features do they utilise the most?

I'm sure there are lots of things to consider and one of them is how we, (AFFers) would exploit the opportunity to its fullest.

 

[Princess Fiona]

Where to next? Lifetime Platinum One?

Why not ?
BA has offered the equivalent for a few years now.
To those who say that it wouldn’t be to QF advantage to offer LTP I disagree.
The FT boards and BA Facebook groups have plenty of Lifetime Emeralds both Gold and GGL (P1 equivalent) still regularly flying BA for work/ leisure.
These are your rusted on customers and I can’t see that the QF clientele in this category would be any different during their working lifetime.

I’m reasonably sure that a top secret LTP already exists on some level, there have been a few reported sightings over the years mentioned on here.
I personally would like to see a published LTP.
I hope that by the time I’ve spent 25-30 years on QF aircraft I can get decent seats and access to the Flounge going to visit the grandkids (I don’t yet have) overseas on my QF J ticket.
I really don’t think that’s too much to ask.

 

[mviy]

I'd rather QF sets a high target for LTP and that DSC still counts towards it than they set a low target and put heavy restrictions on what can count towards it.

Considering BA's Lifetime Gold (which has been around nearly 4 and a half years now) is at 35000 TP I would expect a LTP for QF would be somewhere in the ballpark of 35,000 SC.

This could also be a case of be careful what you wish for. If QF introduces a LTP it's possible they could decide to adjust the targets for LTS and LTG at the same time e.g. 10,000 SC for LTS, 20,000 SC for LTG and 35,000 for LTP. If they did a LTP1 that could be around 100,000 SC.

 

[Pushka]

I’m reasonably sure that a top secret LTP already exists on some level, there have been a few reported sightings over the years mentioned on here.
I personally would like to see a published LTP.
I hope that by the time I’ve spent 25-30 years on QF aircraft I can get decent seats and access to the Flounge going to visit the grandkids (I don’t yet have) overseas on my QF J ticket.
I really don’t think that’s too much to ask.

It’s funny you should say there may be a top secret LTP. A work colleague who travels pretty much every week, long distance always in paid F, domestic in J, and would be WP1 many times over for years in a row has mentioned he is LTP to MrP. I have told him there is no such animal. Yet he does not change his story. I think you may be right.

 

[Ansett]

I for one would be tempted to go for LTP given that I already have LTG and have now gone down the path of using other OW airlines as I have lounge access currently as a WP but if I was not to re qualify then at least I have good lounge access too.

Not being as tied to QF as I was before I have been able to find better value and timed flights for all International travel. Having the ability to obtain LTP would see me spend more with QF once again.

 

[JessicaTam]

It’s funny you should say there may be a top secret LTP. A work colleague who travels pretty much every week, long distance always in paid F, domestic in J, and would be WP1 many times over for years in a row has mentioned he is LTP to MrP. I have told him there is no such animal. Yet he does not change his story. I think you may be right.

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