Is the "Fly Ahead" benefit removal actually being enforced?

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Let's just capture this for posterity in case they quietly change their mind -

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Yet ANOTHER striking instance where Platinums get zero extra Bennies over Gold.

There truly is little reason to bother chasing Plat with Virgin and Borgetti and Co should wise up.

So are you suggesting they remove fly ahead from SG?
 
So are you suggesting they remove fly ahead from SG?

Doing so would offer the tiniest of differential Benefit to Plats. Allowing Plats to use it on ANY buyable fare as it was is the wisest tweak. Indeed would simply leave things as they were until Xmas. Golds have cheapest 3 buckets excluded.

Right now there are near zero differences.

As there are a TON more Golds than Plats, clearly the benefit being offered to the small number who fly a Lot is a wise compromise. They were happy with it until Xmas so if 10% of those who used it up to Xmas use it now, no big deal to the bottom line.

Even to cancel or change an award booking gives Plats no exemption over a RED Status member. INSANE.

Every other top tier airline plan on this planet has little cherries like that that are worth aiming for. It is called carrot and stick. :D

I've earned Plat for about 5 years and will again this year on booked flights already but like many others will not bother next year, unless they re-visit a few useful perks.

Right NOW Row #3 is about the only thing of use to me that Golds do not get. They near pulled that too and backed off after loud screeching.
 
Doing so would offer the tiniest of differential Benefit to Plats. Allowing Plats to use it on ANY buyable fare as it was is the wisest tweak. Indeed would simply leave things as they were until Xmas. Golds have cheapest 3 buckets excluded.

Right now there are near zero differences.

As there are a TON more Golds than Plats, clearly the benefit being offered to the small number who fly a Lot is a wise compromise. They were happy with it until Xmas so if 10% of those who used it up to Xmas use it now, no big deal to the bottom line.

Even to cancel or change an award booking gives Plats no exemption over a RED Status member. INSANE.

Every other top tier airline plan on this planet has little cherries like that that are worth aiming for. It is called carrot and stick. :D

I've earned Plat for about 5 years and will again this year on booked flights already but like many others will not bother next year, unless they re-visit a few useful perks.

Right NOW Row #3 is about the only thing of use to me that Golds do not get. They near pulled that too and backed off after loud screeching.

Why not just go across to Qantas, Glen?
 
Why not just go across to Qantas, Glen?

The same pointless response might well be made on every positive comment aimed at Virgin on this board.

In my 20 years on travel bulletin boards I've seen ENDLESS examples of hotels and airlines fine tuning program benefits based on sensible and logical suggestions made by existent Elites.

Does not always occur but NEVER underestimate how often Boards are read by company reps in a position to change things - if they make good business sense.
 
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Noticed in the SYD Lounge (Tue?) that there were little piles of printed flyers with information about "changes to fly ahead" or words to that effect. I'm guessing that Lounge staff were constantly explaining it to confused status flyers (including some DYKWIAs).

Add to this one Lounge member explaining loudly to her colleagues on the phone to "watch out, be careful, etc" as she'd been caught out booking the 9pm flight and was miffed to wait in the lounge for 7+ hrs.
 
Noticed in the SYD Lounge (Tue?) that there were little piles of printed flyers with information about "changes to fly ahead" or words to that effect. I'm guessing that Lounge staff were constantly explaining it to confused status flyers (including some DYKWIAs).

Add to this one Lounge member explaining loudly to her colleagues on the phone to "watch out, be careful, etc" as she'd been caught out booking the 9pm flight and was miffed to wait in the lounge for 7+ hrs.

Those flyers have been there there for a while I first saw them around Christmas
 
Are Award seats still OK for Fly Ahead "officially"?

Yes, I used Fly Ahead on an Elevate fare (QZEV0/PR) [used points to upgrade to J] on 20 Jan. Having said that it was available, the CSA at the VA Lounge Service Desk had never done one before, so had to seek advice from her Manager (which is firstly taking off the upgrade to get back to base fare, then moving flights using Fly Ahead, then re-establishing the upgrade again).

They are enforcing. I was told - You are on Getaway fare, you can pay 10,000 points to upgrade to reward seat and then fly ahead.

So -
Yes - Flyahead is being enforced
Yes - You can fly ahead on Reward Seat

Cheers
That makes a lot of sense - you want to move flights, burn some points to access the flexibility.
 
Just a quick one - slightly unrelated. I need to fly CHC-MEL and the only timing that works is a CHC-SYD-MEL routing with a 3hr wait in Sydney. Is it possible to fly ahead if the CHC-SYD flight is on time? I will only have carry on luggage and am VA WP. Thanks!
 
Just a quick one - slightly unrelated. I need to fly CHC-MEL and the only timing that works is a CHC-SYD-MEL routing with a 3hr wait in Sydney. Is it possible to fly ahead if the CHC-SYD flight is on time? I will only have carry on luggage and am VA WP. Thanks!

I believe fly ahead is Domestic only
 
Add to this one Lounge member explaining loudly to her colleagues on the phone to "watch out, be careful, etc" as she'd been caught out booking the 9pm flight and was miffed to wait in the lounge for 7+ hrs.

And this is the reason it is being enforced.... too many people were taking the piss regularly with this benefit and it was being abused.
 
I believe fly ahead is Domestic only

Yep, so theoretically it could apply for the Domestic SYD-MEL leg of the trip, as far as I can see in the rules (I may have missed it) there doesn't seem to be anything about not being able too after arriving from Overseas.

Thanks, would be "go plus"

This is where it gets a bit more tricky, not sure how that would flow on to the domestic leg, it's got to be worth asking at the lounge desk once you've cleared customs/immigration and transferred to the Domestic terminal. The worst they can say is no :) and if they do then it's not too long a wait for your booked flight.
 
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Yep, so theoretically it could apply for the Domestic SYD-MEL leg of the trip, as far as I can see in the rules (I may have missed it) there doesn't seem to be anything about not being able too after arriving from Overseas.

Theoretically yes, but with VA, domestic flights within Australia which are part of an international itinerary are classed as "international" flights for SC earn (as I found out with my recent trip to the US - those flights earn as per the international SC table, not the domestic one) so will be interesting to see whether the SYD-MEL flight is classed as an international or domestic sector with regards to Fly Ahead.
 
Interesting, I haven't looked at the VA section of the status tables in a while, most of my major earning is on SQ atm.

So if Go+ is discount economy (from memory) then he'll only earn 10 SC for the domestic leg as opposed to 15. That's going to bite if you do that regularly.

Sounds like it really could go either way with fly ahead then, let us know how you get on Edge.
 
Interesting, I haven't looked at the VA section of the status tables in a while, most of my major earning is on SQ atm.

So if Go+ is discount economy (from memory) then he'll only earn 10 SC for the domestic leg as opposed to 15. That's going to bite if you do that regularly.

Sounds like it really could go either way with fly ahead then, let us know how you get on Edge.

It seems to be this way since the new SC earn tables came into effect from January 31st. I was flying in J on a Discount Business fare (I class) on a return trip to the US. I queried the SC earn with the AFF Velocity rep when the new SC earn rates were announced, as the itinerary was booked before 31 Jan but flown after that - the earn rate for transcon sectors went from 80 to 90 SCs for Discount Business and they said yes, that was correct, which may have been what they were told (or thought) at the time. I wanted to check as I was calculating the SC earn for the trip to go towards Gold requalification for both Mr Jurahn and I. The PER-SYD sector posted as 80SCs so I sent Velocity an email as I was in the US at the time and received a reply saying oops, yes you're right, the flight should have earned 90SCs and they credited the missing 10SCs. Then just over a week later, I got another email from the same CSO saying er, oops, sorry again, but in fact that's not correct and as the flight was part of an international itinerary, it earns from the international table not the domestic one. They were very apologetic and as a goodwill gesture for their error, did not reverse the extra 10SCs. The return SYD-PER flight posted as 80SCs.

All a bit frustrating as after a domestic trip later in the year (which was planned and booked in accordance with what was required after the SC earn from the US trip), I'll be 10SCs short, but thankfully can make that up with our normal Coles spend. It's something that a lot of people may not be aware of though until the SCs post for these sectors.
 
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Yep, so theoretically it could apply for the Domestic SYD-MEL leg of the trip, as far as I can see in the rules (I may have missed it) there doesn't seem to be anything about not being able too after arriving from Overseas.

The T&C state it is not possible

[FONT=&quot]23.5.3 Fly Ahead cannot be requested at the Lounge for Members who have check-in baggage or at a mid-way point of a connecting journey.[/FONT]
 
What if booked as a multi-city booking MEL-CHC / CHC-SYD / SYD-MEL? Instead of just MEL-CHC-MEL (via Syd)
 
What if booked as a multi-city booking MEL-CHC / CHC-SYD / SYD-MEL? Instead of just MEL-CHC-MEL (via Syd)

Do you intend to check in for the SYD MEL flight in CHC ? If yes your journey is CHC SYD MEL , so following the rules the answer is NO

If only checking in CHC SYD and then checking in again in SYD for the SYD MEL flight it becomes 2 Journeys, then in theory YES you could fly ahead …

as others have mentioned ... you could always just try your luck in SYD if time permits
 
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