Loss of Qantas Platinum 1 member points due to members accidental death....

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I don't believe I was being nasty, more expressing my utter disbelief at the attitude of the OP.

Legal costs, damage to reputation and burning of bridges with the late husbands employer is not worth 400,000 FF points

Don't worry I haven't seen it as anything other then that.

There haven't been any comments or names thrown that I have thought offensive, just a topic that is quite sensitive and thought provoking at the same time.
 
The thread is now of public record and as such it is not appropriate to close or hide the thread. It actually shows the many differing opinions that people can have about a subject whilst still remaining civil to each other.

Totally agreed!✈
 
I actually think taking a rational approach at a difficult time might be something to distract from the difficulties. Also I think the longer you leave these sorts of things the less chance of success.
 
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Not sure what OP means, and yes oops not meaning for QANTAS to be part of that statement. His company has not
been easy to deal with, in addition to the advisory to QF of information that has effected my husband's and mine, future
plans.
 
I would echo others as the best opportunity to finalise this matter being through negotiation.

It may be best to overlook your late husband's companies' admission to Qantas and instead request that they negotiate with Qantas on your behalf to have the points released to you.

This will be more potent than you going direct I believe, as Qantas will want to retain their business.

In my time with Amex I often saw this situation arise with deceased accounts, they were frozen upon receipt of the death certificate to void any debt balance - after some negotiation the spouse would often be allowed to access the account and redeem all remaining points (either by transfer to airline programs or gift redemption).
 
Re: Loss of Qantas Platinum 1 member points due to members accidental death

+1

In times of grief, stress or (in my case) anger, reasons tend to disappear.

Yes, I also had a SC in my corner with a convincing line of arguments.

Nope, I'd have preferred to spend that $400K on multiple RTW in F if I had cooled down and listened to ... my better half who had preached forgiveness and a cool head.

Now, how many RTW trips in F would $400K give us ?

That would leave a lot more happy memories than the long reams of invoices from your adviser - a former judge, not just a QC - who relied on his footnote of "no responsibility for any advice" when things went pear shaped

Kathleen01, all the best in your quest for justice

I was faced with the same situation 6 years ago. Had a top (read expensive) legal firm provide me with iron clad advice that I would win & the damages would be significant......lucky for me the senior partner was a talker & asked me to consider the time lines & expense - 3/4 years, cost $300K/$400K.

Went out for dinner with the better half.....demolished a few bottles & decided the best outcome would be to pull up stumps & accept the offer on the table. Yeah, we could have pushed on & got another "," in the number however, I've never regretted making the call we did.
 
Surely Qantas would be more accommodating/compassionate if someone contacted them personally and acknowledge that while they have no legal obligation to do something, any compensation/flexibility would be appreciated; compared to threatening them with legal action for something which is pretty clearly not a breach of any legislation or even their own terms and conditions.

I agree. I think the T & C's are pretty plain so in my humble opinion the best course of action is to speak to a Manager, be nice and pull the heart strings with him/her
 
I hope my family would look after (my) the points if I fell off the perch. I would come back and haunt them if they didn't :!:

I doubt it - well, you might well come back as a ghost but having been pretty close to this sort of situation myself (without going into any further details) then points mean nothing. Now, in the case of anyone but a spouse/child, hmm, maybe? :)
 
Deceased Qantas Plat member points.... Here's what happened, one year on.

Hello everyone, here is my update on my late husbands Plat FF points saga. As you know our happy kangaroo airline has rules in place called T&C and depending on the staff member you speak with, these baseline rules can be modified, or aheared to.
After speaking to many staff, who were all in "Customer Service" I landed on the desk of a Platinum Executive supervisor who again could not assist.
Eventually after advising how my husbands account had been shut down on being advised by a Third Party, without consult with myself, let alone a copy of a Death Certificate , I was allowed to have 50% deposited into my ff account.

I was and still am, so upsept towards Qantas Plat team, not only did they not acknowledge my husbands death( they were in fact notified!!!See above story ) with a Condolence card, they have wiped his account number from their records. As though he never existed.

The supervisor tells me they are not set up, in Systems, to merge this type of information ( death of a member) to a team who would liase and consult with next of kin to discuss account closure.

The women in this team were uncaring, unhelpful, and unsure how the scenerio had played out. There was no telephone recording that they could rely on, or read back to me with names dates conversation that had taken place in order to cancel his account.
I urge all Plat FF to leave your account details with several trusted family members, as Qantas have in place , Family Transfer!!!
I have now given my inlaws my husbands points to visit for our first year memorial service. His children have missed out.

QANTAS have missed out. I am now setting up Virgin FF account and vow Never again Qantas shall I deal with such heartless women who seem to think your at their mercy.

My husband gave you not only $$$$ weekly, he praised your airline by NOT going to Velocity when they approached him with a fantastic offer.
To think I even arranged to bring his body home on Qantas not knowing how you treat your members, once they no longer are of value to you.

Shame Shame Shame on you Qantas.
Never again will I fly you.




 
Re: Deceased Qantas Plat member points.... Here's what happened, one year on.

Interesting that Velocity handle this differently. I guess this is part of family pooling?

9.3.2 If a Member dies, VRPL will give the executors or administrators of the deceased Member’s estate an opportunity to notify VRPL within 12 months after the Member’s death with their wishes regarding Points allocated to the Member at the time of the Member’s death.

Your advice re leaving details of your QFF account with a trusted family member is prescient and I suggest widely followed by many members here.

Regarding Qantas allowing you to have 50% of your husbands points I think they have considered your claim fairly compassionately although I don't know how well the delivery was handled.
 
Re: Deceased Qantas Plat member points.... Here's what happened, one year on.

I remember the OP and this situation about 7 months ago.
Back then I did pass on my condolences on the sad passing, and I would like to reiterate that today.
However, considering that you ended up with 50% of your husbands points, I feel that the time would be right to move on and cease your crusade.
It is your prerogative to stop flying QF, however there is no evidence to say that VA would act any differently in the same situation. However in saying that VA do seem to have some flexibility in their terms.
Yes it isn't a nice lesson to learn, but you have had a better result than the majority of others in your situation would.
 
Re: Deceased Qantas Plat member points.... Here's what happened, one year on.

Nothing is going to bring back your husband and I know that you have not been able to get full resolution from Qantas but at the end of the day I think it is a good compromise and a win in a way.

Your advice re leaving details of your QFF account with a trusted family member is prescient and I suggest widely followed by many members here.
Oh no not I. Silly me but my parents and brother are not interested so if something were to happen a lot of points would go to waste. :(
 
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