Loud snoring

[Mal Ware]

Unfortunately, waking someone up is unlikely to change their situation other than to frustrate and anger them, which may lead to confrontation if you keep doing it. Remember someone who snores could very well go through life in a constantly tired state.

+1 Waking the wrong person could see someone be assisted in going to sleep.

 

[JohnK]

Totally support you decision. But if you're waking up tired, falling asleep in the afternoon, using the toilet multiple times during the night. I'd strongly recommend getting tested. The consequences for health scared me, in terms of stroke and heart conditions and general wellbeing.

I do wake up tired but I think that is because I do so much in my dreams I never get a chance to rest. In fact some days I wake up more tired than when I went to sleep if that is at all possible.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

+1 Waking the wrong person could see someone be assisted in going to sleep.

what exactly do you mean by this? that the person being woken might throw a punch? not worth the gaol time I wouldn't have thought. besides, hardly likely behaviour unless it is some DYKWIA type.

I really cannot understand whatbthe issue of politely waking someone is. I have a friend who is a heavy chronic snorer. his wife sends him off to the other room to sleep just so she can have shut eye. he uses nose strips, changes sleeping position. gets prodded awake by his kids and wife when the noise gets unbearable. of course he has also sought medical intervention. would he care less if someone woke him? nope.

 

[mannej]

Who are you to make the judgement of waking a stranger up from his/her sleep?

 

[straitman]

what exactly do you mean by this? that the person being woken might throw a punch? not worth the gaol time I wouldn't have thought. besides, hardly likely behaviour unless it is some DYKWIA type.

I really cannot understand whatbthe issue of politely waking someone is. I have a friend who is a heavy chronic snorer. his wife sends him off to the other room to sleep just so she can have shut eye. he uses nose strips, changes sleeping position. gets prodded awake by his kids and wife when the noise gets unbearable. of course he has also sought medical intervention. would he care less if someone woke him? nope.

I'm thinking that you need to broaden your thought spectrum here. I know of a few people who would potentially put you to sleep (with a punch) if you woke them. They are far from DYKWIA types and it would be reactionary and not intentional but it probably would happen.

Who are you to make the judgement of waking a stranger up from his/her sleep?

Agreed. I suspect the risk is not worth the outcome on many occasions.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I'm thinking that you need to broaden your thought spectrum here. I know of a few people who would potentially put you to sleep (with a punch) if you woke them. They are far from DYKWIA types and it would be reactionary and not intentional but it probably would happen.

I struggle with this. If it was reactionary and unintentional, that means they would also punch out their wife or kids at home if they got woken up. That is a much deeper issue than snoring on a plane :shock:

 

[straitman]

I struggle with this. If it was reactionary and unintentional, that means they would also punch out their wife or kids at home if they got woken up. That is a much deeper issue than snoring on a plane :shock:

I'm sorry if reality shocks you:!:

 

[stonehut]

Can you post a link to this CPAP thingy so I can research it?

I just bought a small "Transcend II" CPAP from CPAP Australia (not enough posts to insert the link) - the unit is *very* small. You can get either their P4 battery which lasts about 8 hours, or the P8 battery that lasts about 16 hours. I got the P8. Only received the unit a couple of days before departure and tried it for one night before leaving - worked a treat. As a result I slept like a baby for 5 hours SIN-FRA in J. The best part was no power-point required. Bonus for other passengers was that I was not keeping them awake

The Transcend cost me $1150.00 all up, delivered from Qld to country SA. That included the CPAP, 16 hour battery and a weighted base to clip on if you are using it at home. I'm a very happy camper... or at least I could be a very happy camper if I went camping!

Cheers,
Ken

PS - no affiliation with CPAP Australia - just a now happy customer (they also sell the Provent patches, but I wasn't able to get along with them).

 

[Mal Ware]

I'm thinking that you need to broaden your thought spectrum here. I know of a few people who would potentially put you to sleep (with a punch) if you woke them. They are far from DYKWIA types and it would be reactionary and not intentional but it probably would happen.

That is pretty much what I was inferring with my post.

People don't have a god given right to shove, touch or move someone because it bothers them. The correct thing to do would be to involve the hosty.

 

[Deleted member]

The fact isthat when you put a few hundred people in VERY close proximity to each other for 4 or 5 hours (or much longer) then personal idiosyncrasies are going to annoy some and vice versa. I think you (we) just need to try and manage as best we can, and make an effort to curb our own actions if we feel they may offend

 

[medhead]

I just bought a small "Transcend II" CPAP from CPAP Australia (not enough posts to insert the link) - the unit is *very* small. You can get either their P4 battery which lasts about 8 hours, or the P8 battery that lasts about 16 hours. I got the P8. Only received the unit a couple of days before departure and tried it for one night before leaving - worked a treat. As a result I slept like a baby for 5 hours SIN-FRA in J. The best part was no power-point required. Bonus for other passengers was that I was not keeping them awake

The Transcend cost me $1150.00 all up, delivered from Qld to country SA. That included the CPAP, 16 hour battery and a weighted base to clip on if you are using it at home. I'm a very happy camper... or at least I could be a very happy camper if I went camping!

Cheers,
Ken

PS - no affiliation with CPAP Australia - just a now happy customer (they also sell the Provent patches, but I wasn't able to get along with them).

They've sent me a few emails about it. It looks pretty interesting.

CPAP machine Transcend really small cpap machine CPAP Australia

Small!!

 

[MEL_Traveller]

That is pretty much what I was inferring with my post.

People don't have a god given right to shove, touch or move someone because it bothers them. The correct thing to do would be to involve the hosty.

what difference would it make if it was the 'hosty' or another passenger waking up the snorer? If according to what i read here there are some people who would just lash out in a 'reactionary and not intentional way' that means they would also punch the cabin attendant. That is totally unacceptable behavour.

Yes we should all try and get along when we are together on an airplane. But as in real life, the majority rules over the minority. A single person loses out their comfort for the majority who want to be comfortable. This applies to a range of situations:

• noisy and disruptive kids that run amok and the parents don't seem to care (perfectly acceptable to ask the parents if there is a problem with the child or whether or not they can get them to settle down)
• passengers of size (should buy two seats not take up someone else's space)
• people who appear intoxicated (not allowed to fly) ('appear' intoxicated with good cause - not that they might be a stroke victim)
• a mother changing a diaper on a tray table
• a mother changing a diaper in any place around their seat or other than a toilet
• two passengers talking loudly keeping other pax from sleeping
• parents who feel the need to fly First class but have their children and nanny in business class (should seat at the rear of the cabin and not have the children / nanny walking through the F cabin for a visit)
• passengers who might be wearing headphones but sing out loud or tap the remote control on the table in time with the music - oblivious to the noise they are creating
• passengers with headphones laughing repeatedly out loud

No doubt there are other situations as well. I know there are many people who are too scared to take action, but if one person wants to then I don't see any good cause why not.

 

[straitman]

but if one person wants to then I don't see any good cause why not.

.... and here is where some of us disagree with you. Some of us see the action that you are suggesting as inappropriate :!:

 

[Mal Ware]

what difference would it make if it was the 'hosty' or another passenger waking up the snorer?

If you seriously cannot see the difference then there is not much point in continuing this discussion.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

If you seriously cannot see the difference then there is not much point in continuing this discussion.

if I accept the argument (above) that someone being woken up will hit out in a reactionary and unintentional way - then logic dictates in a dark cabin there is no way (and no time) for them to assess if it is a cabin crew member or another passenger waking them. Therefore, unfortunately the conclusion is there is no difference who wakes the passenger... cabin crew, spouse or children sitting next to them, or a random passenger.

A simple solution as suggested elsewhere is for passengers who snore loudly to tell the cabin crew to wake them if they are causing the rest of the cabin grief.

 

[JohnK]

I think I have been snoring loudly all morning on 2 different flights.

The FA came around to wake me each time but I think it had more to do with the fact I asked her to wake me for breakfast if I was asleep!

 

[tuapekastar]

It would generally not be too difficult to wake an adjacent passenger without actually touching them. I could not see myself shaking someone whilst saying 'wake up mate, you're snoring', but I could see an 'accidental' seat bump or some other indirect method of waking them, naturally unattributable to me.

Certainly not something I would do at the drop of a hat (and incidentally something I have not done before on a plane), more a desperate last measure, after my defences (ear plugs, headphones etc.) had proved ineffective.

 

[pagingjoan]

It would generally not be too difficult to wake an adjacent passenger without actually touching them. I could not see myself shaking someone whilst saying 'wake up mate, you're snoring', but I could see an 'accidental' seat bump or some other indirect method of waking them, naturally unattributable to me.

Certainly not something I would do at the drop of a hat (and incidentally something I have not done before on a plane), more a desperate last measure, after my defences (ear plugs, headphones etc.) had proved ineffective.

I must confess that I've often applied a sharp elbow to the ribs in such circumstances.
[But I was closely acquainted with my seat mate on all such occasions!]

 

[mapnz]

Might be a good opportunity to get shifted to a better seat!

 

[cove]

We copped a loud snorer in the 4 seat first class section of a 777 plane. This passenger really needed to do a sleep apnea test. Meanwhile I was wishing SQ had suite flights to Los Angeles as that would have provided some insulation on the 8 hour flight.