Masks on QF International Flights

Saw this article in SMH about QF lifting mask mandate on certain international flights where the destination doesn't require masks to be worn. Will be interesting to see how this plays out and how many people keep wearing them, and how many people stop wearing them even on flights when they are meant to be required.

Qantas to lift mask requirement on some international flights

Qantas says it will soon allow passengers to travel without masks on some international flights, even though face coverings remain compulsory on all domestic services.

www.smh.com.au

 

[justinbrett]

How long ago was that? We left the US on 12JUN thru DCA to JFK and I was totally prepared to mask up at T2 at DCA, when the announcements were made that they were no longer within the airport or any flights..

It’s only JFK, LGA, PHL and LAX requiring masks - and only within the airport (not on flights)

 

[mbell1510]

The Australian is reporting and confirmed by a Qantas spokesperson that the airline has officially scrapped the face mask rule on some international flights from Today. Direct flights to UK, US and Italy will see passengers no required to wear them. Surely they will now be removed domestically after the school holidays now.

Interestingly they mention only flights from NSW, Qld and WA, but not Victoria. Nine News also reporting that so does Victoria have some rules preventing the removal of masks?

 

[jase05]

The Australian is reporting and confirmed by a Qantas spokesperson that the airline has officially scrapped the face mask rule on some international flights from Today. Direct flights to UK, US and Italy will see passengers no required to wear them. Surely they will now be removed domestically after the school holidays now.

Interestingly they mention only flights from NSW, Qld and WA, but not Victoria. Nine News also reporting that so does Victoria have some rules preventing the removal of masks?

Victoria not dropping airport mask mandate until this weekend so perhaps that is the reason

 

[ScubaMel]

The Australian is reporting and confirmed by a Qantas spokesperson that the airline has officially scrapped the face mask rule on some international flights from Today. Direct flights to UK, US and Italy will see passengers no required to wear them. Surely they will now be removed domestically after the school holidays now.

Interestingly they mention only flights from NSW, Qld and WA, but not Victoria. Nine News also reporting that so does Victoria have some rules preventing the removal of masks?

Any word on flights to South Africa (SYD-JNB)? I don't think they are compulsory in SA?

 

[cwphoto]

So here's hoping Thailand does not lift mask rules but that won't last much longer there either.

Would it be feasible to have a mask section and non-mask section in flight like they did for smoking?

No.

 

[JohnK]

No.

And why would that be? Must be extremely difficult to set aside 3-4 rows at the back of the cabin for people who want a bit of extra safety?

I can see a lot of people have been damaged by what is a very simple thing to do. Wearing masks is very simple. Requires very little effort and comes with lots of benefits.

 

[serfty]

And why would that be? Must be extremely difficult to set aside 3-4 rows at the back of the cabin for people who want a bit of extra safety?

Who is going to enforce such segregative rules? The FA's have enough to do; hard enough when mask for all, making separation would be more difficult.

 

[offshore171]

And why would that be? Must be extremely difficult to set aside 3-4 rows at the back of the cabin for people who want a bit of extra safety?

Ultimately everyone is sharing the same enclosed space in the same fuselage. It’s a bit like having a peeing section in a swimming pool. Same goes for when they used to have the ridiculous smoking section.

 

[cwphoto]

And why would that be? Must be extremely difficult to set aside 3-4 rows at the back of the cabin for people who want a bit of extra safety?

I can see a lot of people have been damaged by what is a very simple thing to do. Wearing masks is very simple. Requires very little effort and comes with lots of benefits.

I agree a lot of people have been damaged: those obsessed with mask worship have lost their minds.

I'll correct you:

• Wearing masks is not simple.
• Wearing masks is a health risk.
• There are no benefits to wearing masks.

Perhaps you should wear multiple masks if you are that paranoid?

 

[JohnK]

Who is going to enforce such segregative rules? The FA's have enough to do; hard enough when mask for all, making separation would be more difficult.

It sounds very simple.

Who enforces who goes into business class cabin or uses business class toilet?

Anyway I get it. Too many traumatised by simple restrictions such as social distancing and wearing masks.

 

[cwphoto]

It sounds very simple.

Who enforces who goes into business class cabin or uses business class toilet?

Anyway I get it. Too many traumatised by simple restrictions such as social distancing and wearing masks.

We're not the ones traumatised..

 

[ANstar]

Compulsory mask wearing onboard has had it's day for sure. Only a matter of time before Aus falls into line with Europe/USA.

 

[straitman]

I agree a lot of people have been damaged: those obsessed with mask worship have lost their minds.

I'll correct you:

• Wearing masks is not simple.
• Wearing masks is a health risk.
• There are no benefits to wearing masks.

Perhaps you should wear multiple masks if you are that paranoid?

A load of rubbish IMHO.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I agree a lot of people have been damaged: those obsessed with mask worship have lost their minds.

I'll correct you:

• Wearing masks is not simple.
• Wearing masks is a health risk.
• There are no benefits to wearing masks.

Perhaps you should wear multiple masks if you are that paranoid?

The AHPPC strongly recommends the wearing of masks in closed settings, and acknowledges the role they play in helping to prevent the transmission of covid-19:

The Australian Health Protection Principal Committee (AHPPC) has reviewed the current COVID-19 situation in Australia and revised the need for mandated mask wearing in certain settings. The AHPPC notes that all states and territories have relaxed mask mandates in most settings within the community and considers that it is no longer proportionate to mandate mask use in airport terminals. The AHPPC proposes that mask wearing in airport terminals no longer be mandated from as early as midnight 17 June 2022.​

The AHPPC continues to recognise the role of masks, along with other public health measures, in minimising COVID-19 and influenza transmission and protecting the broader community, including those who are unable to get vaccinated and people who have a higher risk of developing severe illness. In light of this, the AHPPC continues to strongly recommend continued mask wearing in airport terminals and other indoor settings, especially where physical distancing is not possible.​

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https://www.health.gov.au/news/ahppc-statement-on-the-removal-of-mask-mandates-in-airports

 

[JessicaTam]

A load of rubbish IMHO.

There. Fixed that for you.

 

[drron]

The AHPPC strongly recommends the wearing of masks in closed settings, and acknowledges the role they play in helping to prevent the transmission of covid-19:

The Australian Health Protection Principal Committee (AHPPC) has reviewed the current COVID-19 situation in Australia and revised the need for mandated mask wearing in certain settings. The AHPPC notes that all states and territories have relaxed mask mandates in most settings within the community and considers that it is no longer proportionate to mandate mask use in airport terminals. The AHPPC proposes that mask wearing in airport terminals no longer be mandated from as early as midnight 17 June 2022.​

The AHPPC continues to recognise the role of masks, along with other public health measures, in minimising COVID-19 and influenza transmission and protecting the broader community, including those who are unable to get vaccinated and people who have a higher risk of developing severe illness. In light of this, the AHPPC continues to strongly recommend continued mask wearing in airport terminals and other indoor settings, especially where physical distancing is not possible.​

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https://www.health.gov.au/news/ahppc-statement-on-the-removal-of-mask-mandates-in-airports

As I have said before unless you or they can provide a trial that shows a significant effect of mask wearing on transmission that statement is basically meaningless.
They are effective if worn by an infected person but not in protecting the uninfected.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

As I have said before unless you or they can provide a trial that shows a significant effect of mask wearing on transmission that statement is basically meaningless.
They are effective if worn by an infected person but not in protecting the uninfected.

AHPPC’s statement can equally apply to someone wearing a mask who is infected. The advice does not distinguish between those infected, or seeking to avoid infection.

If you acknowledge masks are effective if worn by an infected person, and also acknowledge some people are asymptomatic, or are infectious before they start showing symptoms or test positive, that’s an argument to wear masks in high-density environments, even if you feel fine.

 

[drron]

So Australia has a 7 day average of Covid of 28000. So just let us presume that there are 28000 asymptomatic cases. That is 1 in 1000 Australians have asymptomatic Covid per day. That is just 40% chance that just 1 of them will be on the 400 seat planes you travel on. So you insist that 399 people who have no need to wear a mask must do so. YMBAVIP.

 

[cwphoto]

The AHPPC strongly recommends the wearing of masks in closed settings, and acknowledges the role they play in helping to prevent the transmission of covid-19:

The Australian Health Protection Principal Committee (AHPPC) has reviewed the current COVID-19 situation in Australia and revised the need for mandated mask wearing in certain settings. The AHPPC notes that all states and territories have relaxed mask mandates in most settings within the community and considers that it is no longer proportionate to mandate mask use in airport terminals. The AHPPC proposes that mask wearing in airport terminals no longer be mandated from as early as midnight 17 June 2022.​

The AHPPC continues to recognise the role of masks, along with other public health measures, in minimising COVID-19 and influenza transmission and protecting the broader community, including those who are unable to get vaccinated and people who have a higher risk of developing severe illness. In light of this, the AHPPC continues to strongly recommend continued mask wearing in airport terminals and other indoor settings, especially where physical distancing is not possible.​

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https://www.health.gov.au/news/ahppc-statement-on-the-removal-of-mask-mandates-in-airports

Pure politics - not science.

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AHPPC’s statement can equally apply to someone wearing a mask who is infected. The advice does not distinguish between those infected, or seeking to avoid infection.

If you acknowledge masks are effective if worn by an infected person, and also acknowledge some people are asymptomatic, or are infectious before they start showing symptoms or test positive, that’s an argument to wear masks in high-density environments, even if you feel fine.

No it's not.

 

[straitman]

Pure politics - not science.

… and what science is your opinion based upon?