MH 777 missing - MH370 media statement

[Robbi]

Is that the same 'vodka burner' as in the infamous youtube clip at Canberra airport?

What YouTube clip?

 

[Mal]

What YouTube clip?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ThoZNxy2JZk

 

[JohnK]

Now 2+ weeks and still no closer to the whereabouts of MH370.

 

[Robbi]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ThoZNxy2JZk

Hardly confidence inspiring lol

Any reason to take so long to get in the air?

 

[whatmeworry]

So can we now rule out Pilot suicide?
So is it equipment failure or terrorism?
Or do we have anymore out there theories?

 

[ketsuzei]

Now 2+ weeks and still no closer to the whereabouts of MH370.

Well spotted.

 

[JohnPhelan]

Not lost. Already mentioned he was living in N.Korea.

..... and now has a 777 to play with!

 

[medhead]

Hardly confidence inspiring lol

Any reason to take so long to get in the air?

Weight and air temperature.

 

[Preemo]

Anybody know what the ultra long distance jets being used in the search from perth are?

 

[Skyring]

Anybody know what the ultra long distance jets being used in the search from perth are?

772ERs

I've been following the PPRuNe discussion. A whole bunch of weird theories raised, but I like the way that what seems credible to a layman is usually shot down fairly quickly by those who know what they are on about.

There's also some useful commentary on the systems involved. Radios, satellites, management. The consensus is that Australia is doing a far better job of running a search effort - in extremely difficult conditions - than Malaysia, with particular kudos for media conference performance.

I'm pretty sure that the missing jet went south, mainly because with all the radar and population along the northern arc it's unlikely that it slipped through unobserved. I'm also sure that the search effort isn't being informed by a few grainy commercial satellite photographs, but rather they are the excuse being used so as not to reveal far superior imagery.

 

[markis10]

Anybody know what the ultra long distance jets being used in the search from perth are?

Bombardier Global Express and Gulfstreams .

 

[markis10]

It further lends support to the lithium (battery) theory.

FLAMMABLE lithium cargo takes over as the MOST PLAUSIBLE cause for MH370 disappearance

My main concern with that theory is the lack of comms back to base from the crew.

But as JB pointed out, comms is a low priority in emergencies.

It lends no support at all, not to mention the batteries on board were small consumer ones normally allowed in carry on and were packed correctly. As others have said, any fire would have been very quick as far as an ending goes.

 

[markis10]

AMSA update from last night including news something a found requiring ship intervention:



The Australian Maritime Safety Authority search operation for Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 has concluded for today.
During Saturday’s search activities a civil aircraft tasked by AMSA reported sighting a number of small objects with the naked eye, including a wooden pallet, within a radius of five kilometres.
A Royal New Zealand Air Force (RNZAF) P3 Orion aircraft with specialist electro-optic observation equipment was diverted to the location, arriving after the first aircraft left but only reported sighting clumps of seaweed.
The RNZAF Orion dropped a datum marker buoy to track the movement of the material. A merchant ship in the area has been tasked to relocate and seek to identify the material.
The search area experienced good weather conditions on Saturday with visibility of around 10 kilometres and moderate seas.
The Royal Australian Air Force, the Royal New Zealand Air Force, two chartered civil aircraft and two merchant ships supported Saturday’s search effort in a 36,000 square kilometre search area in the Australian Search and Rescue Region.
Since AMSA assumed coordination of the search on Monday 17 March, 15 sorties have been flown and more than 150 hours of air time has been committed by the air crews to the task.
Four military aircraft assisted in today’s search, as well as two ultra-long range jets. Ten State Emergency Service (SES) volunteers from Western Australia were tasked as air observers today, along with two AMSA mission coordinators on the civilian aircraft. AMSA runs a training program across the country to train SES volunteers in air observation for land and sea searches.
The Royal Australian Navy’s HMAS Success has arrived in the search area. Two merchant ships are also in the search area.
The search will resume tomorrow and further attempts will be made to establish whether the objects sighted are related to MH370.
This evening China provided a satellite image to Australia possibly showing a 22.5 metre floating object in the southern Indian Ocean. AMSA has plotted the position and it falls within Saturday’s search area. The object was not sighted on Saturday.
AMSA will take this information into account in tomorrow’s search plans.

 

[bass_ke]

A315? I didn't think such a type existed, google also shows up nothing.

I always took the ABC as being a bit more reliable than no news....

 

[Kefci2000]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/AuCOcH6CMAEhHPs.jpg

 

[maninblack]

including a wooden pallet, within a radius of five kilometres.
A Royal New Zealand Air Force (RNZAF) P3 Orion aircraft with specialist electro-optic observation equipment was diverted to the location, arriving after the first aircraft left but only reported sighting clumps of seaweed.

Sounds like they are grasping at straws a bit here. There is an awful lot of debris floating in the worlds oceans. Not really worthy of mentioning in official reports.

 

[markis10]

Sounds like they store grasping at straws a bit here. There is an awful lot of debris floating in the worlds oceans. Not really worthy of mentioning in official reports.

I disagree, it indicates the capability of the search and the need to check everything. There well maybe a lot of debris in the oceans but as previously mentioned, this area is relatively pristine by comparison to the other areas which had similar reports.

 

[maninblack]

I disagree, it indicates the capability of the search and the need to check everything. There well maybe a lot of debris in the oceans but as previously mentioned, this area is relatively pristine by comparison to the other areas which had similar reports.

I have a few retired merchantmen in my extended family and they well tell you that they hit rubbish including containers anywhere. If the search was to go on the trail of every piece of sighted garbage then the search could be infinite.

Seeing some floating rubbish is not a reportable incident. IMO

Btw I think my relatives might be annoyed by me calling them merchantmen, (which is probably the term for a ship) I think the correct term might be Merchant marine officer.

 

[markis10]

I have a few retired merchantmen in my extended family and they well tell you that they hit rubbish including containers anywhere. If the search was to go on the trail of every piece of sighted garbage then the search could be infinite.

Seeing some floating rubbish is not a reportable incident. IMO

I am not saying there isn't flotsam and jetsam to be found, just that its incidence in that area is a lot lower than other locations. Everything needs to be checked, labelling it rubbish before this its verified as such makes the statement just as bad as saying its Mh370.

If they reported finding nothing, the charter of an expensive Global Express would be open to the criticism that they didn't even find rubbish! Your statement certainly verifies the common saying, damned if you do and damned if you don't, when it comes to the openness or secrecy of the search.

 

[markis10]

Merchant ship Höegh St Petersburg was released from tasking in the MH370 search, midnight search zone time last night.

In other news, the IL76s supposedly went to the wrong airport. The RAAF had no idea why one went to Perth International. Maybe they wanted duty free? Or a closer look at the p8.

The two civil aircraft used yesterday were ICV and LAL, ICV is a GLEX while LAL is a G550. Those spotters would have had nice seats.