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[Warks]

Emirates chief Tim Clark reveals suspicions over true fate of missing flight MH370

TIM Clark is no MH370 conspiracy theory crackpot.
As the recently knighted Emirates president and CEO told Aviation Week in July: “Something is not right here and we need to get to the bottom of it.”

 

[UP4014]

Emirates chief Tim Clark reveals suspicions over true fate of missing flight MH370

No kidding,

 

[whatmeworry]

Emirates chief Tim Clark reveals suspicions over true fate of missing flight MH370

Mr Clark said manufacturers needed to make it impossible for communications and tracking devices on the flight deck to be disabled, so monitoring of aircraft could continue uninterrupted regardless of who was in control.

Read more: MH370: Emirates Airlines head Tim Clark says missing plane was 'under control, probably until the very end'
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Sensible suggestion but would their be any practical reason that a commercial airplane need to turn off tracking devices?

 

[markis10]

Sensible suggestion but would their be any practical reason that a commercial airplane need to turn off tracking devices?

Reading the "ask the pilot' thread will give you a number of reasons, any piece of electrical equipment that cannot be disabled in flight is a concern to pilots (and Mr Clark is not one). A good example of that was the EPIRB fire in the dreamliner, which of course could not have been shut down in flight.

 

[eastwest101]

Reading the "ask the pilot' thread will give you a number of reasons, any piece of electrical equipment that cannot be disabled in flight is a concern to pilots (and Mr Clark is not one). A good example of that was the EPIRB fire in the dreamliner, which of course could not have been shut down in flight.

That's how I remember the question was answered in the Ask the Pilot Thread too. Maybe rather than look at ways of disallowing flight crew to switch off or isolate ACARS and other tracking devices, the aircraft manufacturers may look at multiple redundancy systems so that say if one ACARS or tracking system is a fire risk, then another system in a separate location and with a different power source would remain on - or would be only be activated by the primary system being switched off or failing.

 

[SeatBackForward]

Could this technology find missing Malaysian Flight MH370?

AN Australian scientist says it is possible to locate missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 by identifying cloud changes for evidence of vapour trails caused by burning fuel emissions from the aircraft.

Hydrometeorologist Aron Gingis, head of environmental consultancy firm Australian Management Consolidated, and a former Monash University academic, specialises in cloud microphysics.

Mr Gingis says he has used the technology to locate shipwrecks in the north Pacific Ocean by identifying “ship trails” and the changes in cloud microphysics caused by emissions of floating vessels using archival satellite data.

MH370 search: Contrails could be key to finding missing plane

It seems he has offered his services to authorities but has been turned down.

 

[straitman]

Why has it taken 7.5 months for him to come forward?

 

[clifford]

As I've said before, I'm completely with Tim Clark on this. There is no way this aircraft is in the southern Indian Ocean and IMO it's just a political beat up. There are a number of people in Indonesia, Malaysia and elsewhere who know exactly what happened to MH370, and one day the truth will out.

Just my view and I'm entitled to it.

 

[straitman]

An interesting new article in AW&ST regarding MH370.

Inmarsat Details The Forensic Search For MH370

Inmarsat explains its refined analysis behind the search for MH370
Oct 20, 2014Tony Osborne and Amy Svitak | Aviation Week & Space Technology

Burst Timing Offset data from Inmarsat 3F-1 may have helped to reduce the search area for MH370.

Inmarsat

A fresh assessment of satellite data has shifted the hunt for Malaysia AirlinesFlight 370 (MH370) to another zone in the southern Indian Ocean, based in part on new analysis from satellite operator Inmarsat, which cautions that “significant uncertainty” remains as to the location of the missingBoeing 777-200ER.

As the underwater search for MH370 moves to an area approximately 800 km (500 mi.) south of the previous zone, London-based Inmarsat, which has been criticized for its part of the investigation, shared details of the refined data analysis on which the shift was largely based.

In a paper published shortly before the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) announced the move Oct. 8, Inmarsat said a possible new flightpath of the aircraft had been determined. The analysis, based in part on two unanswered ground-to-aircraft phone calls during the flight, indicate MH370 turned earlier than was previously thought after it took off from Kuala Lumpur en route to Beijing March 8.

However, Inmarsat says the “sensitivity of the reconstructed flightpath to frequency errors is such that there remains significant uncertainty in the final location,” according to the report, which was published in The Journal of Navigation last month.

The report appears to support indications from ATSB that the search area may move again as satellite and other available data undergo additional analysis.

“Work is continuing with refinements to the analysis of the satellite communication system messages,” ATSB said Oct. 8. “This ongoing work may result in changes to the prioritization and location of search activity within the current search area.”

With no sign of the aircraft’s wreckage in the seven months after MH370 and its 239 passengers disappeared from radar, critics of the Australian-led search are pointing to shortcomings in the ATSB investigation; some are demanding access to satellite and other aircraft tracking data they say has not been made publicly available.

 

[Alanslegal]

This has probably been metioned ten's of times previously but why not offer a reward/bounty for the finding of MH370 ? Offer something substantial like $100M or something and I am sure people (even those in the know might be tempted) to come forward. Employ 100 trained Malaysian based specialists/workers to accept/filter the information (knowing that many speculator, John Does and everyone else will be searching/calling in for their piece of action). The wage cost will be around $5M over 12 months (this is an over-compensation total given Malaysia has relatively low wage rates).

 

[anat0l]

This has probably been metioned ten's of times previously but why not offer a reward/bounty for the finding of MH370 ? Offer something substantial like $100M or something and I am sure people (even those in the know might be tempted) to come forward. Employ 100 trained Malaysian based specialists/workers to accept/filter the information (knowing that many speculator, John Does and everyone else will be searching/calling in for their piece of action). The wage cost will be around $5M over 12 months (this is an over-compensation total given Malaysia has relatively low wage rates).

Didn't they kind of do that, but in reverse, i.e. put out a contract for tender to search for the vessel?

Besides, they don't have to necessarily put a reward out there as such, though there probably is one, or a threat of arrest for obstructing an investigation if one refuses to unconditionally divulge details.

 

[whatmeworry]

New conspiracy theory.

[h=1]'U.S. military shot down MH370 because they thought it had been hacked and was about to be used in terror attack', claims former airline boss[/h]

Read more: 'US military shot down MH370' claims former Proteus Airlines boss | Daily Mail Online
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[prozac]

New conspiracy theory.
'U.S. military shot down MH370 because they thought it had been hacked and was about to be used in terror attack', claims former airline boss
Read more: 'US military shot down MH370' claims former Proteus Airlines boss | Daily Mail Online

Yeah ok, so where is the debris?

 

[eastwest101]

What a rubbish article - wouldn't expect much from the Daily Fail but that almost sets a new low bar in speculation, wild theories by uninformed people, factual mistakes not to mention the spelling and grammar errors.

 

[Awesom Andy]

Looks like somebody wants their 5 seconds of fame...

 

[RAM]

What a rubbish article - wouldn't expect much from the Daily Fail but that almost sets a new low bar in speculation, wild theories by uninformed people, factual mistakes not to mention the spelling and grammar errors.

Not as far fetched as you may think unfortunately. Grammar and spelling atrocious but 'theory' all too possible.

The changes in the MH370 story and the absence to this day of the flight cargo manifest is intriguing.


Something is definitely not being revealed - whether this is that something, who knows?

From a White House perspective I can imagine someone not wanting it to 'spoil' his track record.

Not saying I believe it is the answer but it is more possible than not. If the current search by Aust turns up nothing then probability increases.

Where is the debris? - US personnel would have cleared it up.

Why no leak? - Given the chain of command, as few as 5 people (mostly ranking) on Diego Garcia would know and as few as two back at Pearl.
The firing of a missile would have been from the SAM defenses not air cap. Could have been subsequently explained as an 'exercise' to the thousands on base.

The clean-up most likely done by a small group. For secrecy purposes would probably have dispatched the resident SEAL team, again 'on exercise'.

Why possible? - Threats against US assets were surfacing in the weeks before hand.

Just saying...

 

[defurax]

The US just published a report on torture at "secret" CIA locations...humans are not too good at keeping secrets...

 

[RAM]

The US just published a report on torture at "secret" CIA locations...humans are not too good at keeping secrets...

Total number of people involved across the world with renditions = thousands. US never said they did not do it. Remember the plane in the Ukraine a few years back or the one in the UK more recently?

 

[medhead]

But we all know they keep chemtrails secret.

 

[jb747]

Not as far fetched as you may think unfortunately. Grammar and spelling atrocious but 'theory' all too possible.

The changes in the MH370 story and the absence to this day of the flight cargo manifest is intriguing.


Something is definitely not being revealed - whether this is that something, who knows?

From a White House perspective I can imagine someone not wanting it to 'spoil' his track record.

Not saying I believe it is the answer but it is more possible than not. If the current search by Aust turns up nothing then probability increases.

Where is the debris? - US personnel would have cleared it up.

Why no leak? - Given the chain of command, as few as 5 people (mostly ranking) on Diego Garcia would know and as few as two back at Pearl.
The firing of a missile would have been from the SAM defenses not air cap. Could have been subsequently explained as an 'exercise' to the thousands on base.

The clean-up most likely done by a small group. For secrecy purposes would probably have dispatched the resident SEAL team, again 'on exercise'.

Why possible? - Threats against US assets were surfacing in the weeks before hand.

Just saying...

You've obviously never been in the military, nor have you been to Diego. Or, for that matter, seen a SAM fired.