MH 777 missing - MH370 media statement

[amaroo]

Getting warmer..
Insider Was Needed to Disable Plane Systems - WSJ.com

The captain of MH370 built his own simulator X-Sim.de DIY Motion Simulator Community • You are new here? Say a short "hello" to all other members!

Of course the sim might be a long way from the real deal of a 777............normal hobby for a pilot?

: You are new here? Say a short "hello" to all other membe

by zaharie » Sat 17. Nov 2012, 13:19
Elo guys,
zaharie here.... pls to join x-sim. About a month ago I finish assembly of FSX and FS9 with
6 monitors .... with the latest graphic card ( 2 pieces of asus 7970) on one cpu awesome view on 3 panasonic 32 in. LCD HDMI
and 3 touchscreen Dell 21 inches for main (MCP) , center pedestal, overhead panel.
time to take to the next level of simulation.Motion! looking for buddies to share this passion.
Capt Zaharie Ahmad Shah
BOEING 777 MALAYSIA AIRLINES
[email protected]
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[zainman]

Could the mods pin a post at the beginning of this thread with known facts - updated as they are revised by the authorities ?

After a few days following this sad event, my head starts to confuse between what is confirmed knowns, confirmed unknowns, unconfirmed knowns and unconfirmed unknowns.

So many 'unnamed sources' and retracted announcements that one starts to merge into another.

I'm uninvolved and still get exasperated at the confusing drip release of information. The relatives would have it much worse.

Tom Clancy is gone now; Otherwise, I'm sure he would inject some twists into the plot.

Have a look at FT for the equivalent thread of this... Great job by the members there to put together a vast Wiki at the top of the thread..

 

[markis10]

OK, so I'm amazed that both transponders are taken out by one breaker!

This is a typical panel, 1 of 2 onboard.



Boeing 777: Left Circuit Breakers

 

[RooFlyer]

Canada's contribution:

CBC interactive graphic of "Planes that have disappeared without a trace"

MAP | Planes that vanished without a trace - Interactive - CBC.ca

 

[Melburnian1]

Many in the community will be growing weary of 'speculation fatigue.' How terrible for the families involved, though, to put things in perspective.

The media are now beginning to suggest that 'pilot suicide' is warming as a possible cause, although this remains highly speculative with unnamed spokesmen typically being (supposedly) quoted.

If this was eventually confirmed, or continued to be widely speculated in the popular and even the specialist media, do AFFers believe that on balance, many Australian potential travellers will (a) be very concerned that an MH pilot or first officer could want to take his own life and hence travellers fear that there is 'something not quite correct' with the psychological makeup of MH pilots (however illogical or irrational such a community belief might be) and hence Australians decline to book en masse with MH or (b) without dismissing the tragic apparent loss of this 777, recognise that MH has about 120000 flights per annum and that to date it has had a very good safety record, so it is an aberration and travellers should fly the airline with confidence and book it if the 'good value' proposition is there, just as they would any other airline?

Are Malaysians and mainland Chinese, and indeed other southeast and north Asians likely to be less forgiving on balance than some Westerners might, particularly given what from mainland China is probably a greater percentage of group tour as opposed to independent traveller bookings?

Has anyone the ability to look into MH's booking systems and see at this early point in the investigation whether bookings are down? I saw something in a news report indicating that some mainland Chinese individual travellers were wanting to cancel MH flights but the difficulty with obtaining refunds for discount fare buckets meant that they would probably travel anyway with the airline.

 

[mannej]

without dismissing the tragic apparent loss of this Airbus, recognise that MH has about 120000 flights per annum and that to date it has had a very good safety record,

Since when have Airbus made the 777?

 

[Melburnian1]

Apologes, mannej, corrected - but what opinion do you have of the question I posed?

 

[prozac]

The captain of MH370 built his own simulator X-Sim.de DIY Motion Simulator Community • You are new here? Say a short "hello" to all other members!

Of course the sim might be a long way from the real deal of a 777............normal hobby for a pilot?

: You are new here? Say a short "hello" to all other membe

by zaharie » Sat 17. Nov 2012, 13:19
Elo guys,
zaharie here.... pls to join x-sim. About a month ago I finish assembly of FSX and FS9 with
6 monitors .... with the latest graphic card ( 2 pieces of asus 7970) on one cpu awesome view on 3 panasonic 32 in. LCD HDMI
and 3 touchscreen Dell 21 inches for main (MCP) , center pedestal, overhead panel.
time to take to the next level of simulation.Motion! looking for buddies to share this passion.
Capt Zaharie Ahmad Shah
BOEING 777 MALAYSIA AIRLINES
[email protected]
ATTACHMENTS
zaharie Posts: 1Joined: Tue 18. Sep 2012, 04:37Has thanked: 0 timeBeen thanked: 0 time

Visitors can only use the SIM when school is out as zaharie employs his nieces and nephews to make the SIM room move around for basic manoeuvring movements.

This is a pretty impressive achievement for someone to do. Was he training terrorists on it? I doubt it as he was the pilot on this flight, but I also doubt someone who recently completed this project would be considering suicide.

 

[prozac]

.....................................
Has anyone the ability to look into MH's booking systems and see at this early point in the investigation whether bookings are down? I saw something in a news report indicating that some mainland Chinese individual travellers were wanting to cancel MH flights but the difficulty with obtaining refunds for discount fare buckets meant that they would probably travel anyway with the airline.

Many Chinese are superstitious and may choose not to fly even if it meant not getting a full refund. There may be spare seats for some time to come.

 

[burmans]

It takes time to reposition satellites...And they also knew exactly where to direct it at in Iraq. Here? Not so much.

Somehow I think this point was to point out that even when they knew where to look they couldnt find it. Of course that's because it wasnt there, one suspects the MH370 really was there somewhere and the UFO rumours aren't true.

 

[burmans]

Am I the only one thinking that this event is pointing to a black hole sized weakness in Commercial Aviation safety?
It seems to me that one, perhaps two well organised and well prepared persons , may have perpetrated the whole MH 370 event.
Is really that easy to hijack an airliner ?
A good understanding of the aircraft , a good understanding of flight procedures and a simple threat device (I have a bomb here in this tube of tothpaste. )and you are in command ?
If it is that easy we need some big changes and soon.

Frankly I think there are many weaknesses in Commmercial Aviation safety, TSA being a prime example of closing yesterdays hole but leaving others. Many would suggest the TSA itself might open as many doors as it closes, I don't want to really offer any suggestions to would be terrorists but would note that frequently the biggest opportunity to beat security is inside jobs, and I for one subscribe to the view that with TSA they may have left the idiots in charge of the asylum.

As I said, there are plenty of ways for the crew to let others know of a hijacking, the absence of the indications as such is actually information, for reasons I wont go into. Another consideration is the location of the last known contact, thats not a coincidence that it sits on the boundary of the FIRs, and only the pilots would know that locale.

Can I just note that sometimes lack of information is in itself information.

 

[serfty]

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THIS PAGE LEFT INTENTIONALLY BLANK

Actually I am considering that maybe there are indeed some "negotiations" going on (say for Hostage release?) and it is intentional the page is "blank" due to some requirement for utmost discretion on publicity.

It would explain much ...

Just throwing that around.

 

[markis10]

Radar signals recorded by the Malaysian military appeared to show that the missing airliner climbed to 45,000 feet, above the approved altitude limit for a Boeing 777-200, soon after it disappeared from civilian radar and turned sharply to the west, according to a preliminary assessment by a person familiar with the data.


The radar track, which the Malaysian government has not released but says it has provided to the United States and China, showed that the plane then descended unevenly to 23,000 feet, below normal cruising levels, as it approached the densely populated island of Penang.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/15/world/asia/malaysia-military-radar.html?hp&_r=2

 

[whatmeworry]

Actually I am considering that maybe there are indeed some "negotiations" going on (say for Hostage release?) and it is intentional the page is "blank" due to some requirement for utmost discretion on publicity.

It would explain much ...

Just throwing that around.

Skyping with a friend last night about this. He speculated someone might use the planer later as a bomb.

I speculated they were ransoming not just the pax but also the plane.

 

[boomy]

Skyping with a friend last night about this. He speculated someone might use the planer later as a bomb.

I speculated they were ransoming not just the pax but also the plane.

If only Liam Neeson was on-board...

 

[erkpod]

If only Liam Neeson was on-board...

Ted Strkyer could have got that plane down but it's a totally different type of flying altogether.

But seriously....

We all saw the changes to security after 9/11. Let's say that it turns out to be a death mission by any of the pilots. Remembering that this wouldn't be the first time it happened, is it time to boost the requirements for pilot recruitment, training & monitoring?

 

[whatmeworry]

If only Liam Neeson was on-board...

Liam Neeson talking to the hijackers of MH370...

[video=youtube_share;KgmO32IdwuE]http://youtu.be/KgmO32IdwuE[/video]

 

[whatmeworry]

India now checking out Islands of Andaman and Nicobar.

India scours uninhabited jungle islands for lost Malaysian jetliner | Reuters

 

[scaredeycat]

Is there realistically a possibility that the plane has landed and all aboard are hostages?

 

[Deleted member 29185]

Actually I am considering that maybe there are indeed some "negotiations" going on (say for Hostage release?) and it is intentional the page is "blank" due to some requirement for utmost discretion on publicity.

I am hoping you are right. At least that may mean some of our fellow air travellers may be alive, well and looking forward to a long and prosperous life with their families and loved ones. Let's all remember, most of us are seasoned users of aircraft and it could have been any of us on that plane