NBN Discussion

[Quickstatus]

Well it’s the FAQ provided by Telstra. If it’s not in your “contract” does not mean the assumption that the 4g failover speed will be the same as the NBN speed

Do you know how to login to the Telstra nbn modem?

Usually http://10.0.0.138
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Look under WAN or Status or Connection.
It’s line speed or sync speed

 

[RooFlyer]

Yeah, my local 4G speed at my laptop (inbuilt SIM) here in my office is about 30 Mbps download, 10 Mbps upload, except when the holiday makers descend.

NBN modem not connected yet - sitting in a box by my desk (together with the 4G USB dongle, in its own off the self box). Other thing is the install procedure of Telstra (business) Vs iiNet and TPG (personal) services.

The latter two both said :
* Connection in about 5-10 business days
* We send you the modem, tech visits street, then off you go

This claimed timing put a lot of doubt in my mind!

Telstra said:
* Connection in up to 6-8 weeks
Three appointments, after they send the modem to me
1) Telstra person comes and connects the modem and dongle within premises (it will continue to route the ADSL service)
2) NBN guy connects my service to the NBN at the node (or whatever). Then begin NBN data service; if for any reason the NBN service doesn't come through, the 4G backup kicks in. I don't have a landline phone, so don't care about lack of phone at this stage.
3) Telstra guy visits premises, tests the line etc, hooks the NBN-enabled phone up. I'll probably put this in the drawer like my existing handset.

For all its faults, I found the Telstra connection process much more reassuring. The three appointments are currently scheduled for a week from now, 3 weeks after I did their contract.

My expectations are low!

 

[docjames]

I've finally caved, having agreed with my ISP to switch over. But the current service (Naked DSL) has become so unreliable (dropping out, freezing, slow at peak times) i've folded.

Already i'm regretting it. When signing up, told my preferred date wouldn't be a problem, as greater than two weeks away. Get text, booked on a saturday two days before preferred date. Call back, told I'd cant have my preferred date (!), ask for the following saturday. Sorry, saturday bookings not available. Couldn't explain how they'd managed to book me on a saturday.... So next mutually available date is over a month away.

A day later i get a text saying they've been trying to contact me and to call ISP back (strange as my phone had no missed calls, no voice messages and was in my pocket all day). Call back, they don't know why they've asked me to call them, maybe it was to tell me my preferred date was unavailable (!).

Then the following day, i'm out and someone (apparently) randomly shows up at our house from NBN "just to check" something. Neighbour messages me as they'd knocked on his door to ask. At about the same time, i get a call from an interstate number "This is xx_X from NBN, could i confirm your address" (ensue conversation about how the hell I know they're from NBN before I hand over private details.).


In the end, we resolve that they seemingly are having difficulty sorting address Xa from X (not the doorknocked neighbour's address btw)........



In the end i've resolved to myself I'd have to go through the pain at some point within 18 months so may as well get it over and done with.....

 

[Cossie]

NBN workers have been in the area, we are in a cul-de-sac, they have been digging a trench with the water blasting unit and it will run along the street that we come off.
Not sure how much longer for all the infrastructure to go in, I would like the speed, but not looking forward to all issues that everyone seems to have.

 

[Denali]

Mother in law finally forced onto the NBN. Within 2 days she was having issues/unable to make calls.

Being in your mid 80s and having this forced on you, having to change your current service price/agreement and then it breaking down is not fun.

I hate the NBN.

 

[Buzzard]

Chin up @Denali, chin up.
Some of us, well me, haven't been happier since the NBN was made available. +1 and I now have fast internet when we used to have sooo slow (2mbps). Not yet had an outage, no 7pm slowdown, paying what we paid for broadband. We have had NBN since June.

 

[moa999]

Yes. When it works (which it does in the majority of cases) it's great.
It's a loud minority when it doesn't.

 

[Quickstatus]

Still waiting for mine.
I hope to get mine before a change in Govt

Mother in law finally forced onto the NBN. Within 2 days she was having issues/unable to make calls.

Being in your mid 80s and having this forced on you, having to change your current service price/agreement and then it breaking down is not fun.

I hate the NBN.

Many just use 4g in these circumstances

 

[Pushka]

I’m ADSL2 with TPG and NBN switched on a month or so ago. ADSL2 has gone down the toilet since. Contacted TPG and all they said was because NBN was now available they couldn’t provide tech support. The refused to answer the question why they knew the service was around 1mbps - when it was working -(they’d done some checking) yet still charged the full amount for 20 mbps as on their website.

Buzz, think we got it the same time as you.

I hate NBN. We have a monitored alarm and we have to get all that sorted.

@docjames we share the same story. I think they slow down ADSL just to force people on to nbn.

 

[Quickstatus]

Monitored alarms these days are on the mobile network and not on NBN network

 

[Pushka]

Monitored alarms these days are on the mobile network and not on NBN network

We have to get new equipment I’ve just read. More money to be handed over no doubt. Given we are moving in now, 10 months time it’s a pain in the butt. Our speeds this time last year on ADSL2 were 10mbps which was all we needed.

 

[moa999]

Alarms should be on mobile anyway, otherwise susceptible to wire cut. You can get a cheap 3G dialler that will do the job for under $200.

In most cases the VOIP line will work, just the security company doesn't want to recommend it.

As for falling ADSL speeds give me coincidence over conspiracy anyday. But note in many cases the NBN Rollout is using the same pits and pipes ad thr copper so disturbing joins which can harm (or in some cases improve) ADSL speeds.

 

[Quickstatus]

The GSM pathway is what most alarm providers use.

Anything NBN unless it has a battery backup is susceptible to power loss. A back to base alarm based on NBN will have potential VoIP handshake issues as well as thieves just flipping the main power circuit breaker as NBN is powered by your house electricity.

The tried and true POTS dialler are powered by the phone line. Sure the thieves could cut the phone line like in the movies but more difficult to do than finding the electricity fuse box.

GSM dialling with a battery backup is much more robust solution for a B2B system (assuming you got signal)

FTTP before MTM (Malcolm Turnbull Mess) was supposed to leave the copper in place so it could continue as a voice line. The quality problems is not a big problem for voice. It became an issue when Mal wanted to push it to do higher speeds.
And similarly the 7% which were going to get FW/Sat would have copper in place.

 

[Pushka]

The GSM pathway is what most alarm providers use.

Anything NBN unless it has a battery backup is susceptible to power loss. A back to base alarm based on NBN will have potential VoIP handshake issues as well as thieves just flipping the main power circuit breaker as NBN is powered by your house electricity.

The tried and true POTS dialler are powered by the phone line. Sure the thieves could cut the phone line like in the movies but more difficult to do than finding the electricity fuse box.

GSM dialling with a battery backup is much more robust solution for a B2B system (assuming you got signal)

FTTP before MTM (Malcolm Turnbull Mess) was supposed to leave the copper in place so it could continue as a voice line. The quality problems is not a big problem for voice. It became an issue when Mal wanted to push it to do higher speeds.
And similarly the 7% which were going to get FW/Sat would have copper in place.

See, this is all just unnecessary complication and cost that most of us just don’t need. We apparently have FTTC. I’ve been told I’ll need two boxes (connection box and modem) now. Given the only telephone jack is behind the side table next to my bed I do not want another god dam flashy light electro thing next to me.

 

[Quickstatus]

See, this is all just unnecessary complication and cost that most of us just don’t need.

Well yes if “need” and no if “want”, the old POTS phone didn’t cost much but these days we don’t blink when we go into a shop and pay over $1000-2000 for a phone

The place I just bought had FTTP installed but because it’s never been activated before (new construction) I’m up for $300 for the first activation.

 

[Pushka]

Well yes and no, the old POTS phone didn’t cost much but these days we don’t blink when we go into a shop and pay over $1000-2000 for a phone

But I don’t buy those phones until my last one pretty much dies. Husband is still on the original iPhone 5.

 

[Quickstatus]

That’s the problem, built in obsolescence.

With Advent of NBN and mobile, the payphone is slowly being phased out or does Telstra still have an obligation to keep a minimum number

 

[Pushka]

Well yes if “need” and no if “want”, the old POTS phone didn’t cost much but these days we don’t blink when we go into a shop and pay over $1000-2000 for a phone

The place I just bought had FTTP installed but because it’s never been activated before (new construction) I’m up for $300 for the first activation.

Well I guess we paid along those lines for our first installation. We haven’t moved. So why should we have to pay up again for something that worked fine for us until they started meddling.

 

[Quickstatus]

NBN for premises which have an existing landline don’t need to pay an first activation fee (except for HFC customers who don’t have an existing HFC lead in - they have to pay for first activation even if they have landline)

But the B2B alarm is equipment which is inside your premises and so it’s your responsibility regardless of what’s coming into your house.

 

[Pushka]

NBN for premises which have an existing landline don’t need to pay an first activation fee (except for HFC customers who don’t have an existing HFC lead in - they have to pay for first activation even if they have landline)

But the B2B alarm is equipment which is inside your premises and so it’s your responsibility regardless of what’s coming into your house.

Yes, and we paid around $1000 a few years ago for that alarm installation and now we have to hand out money again for something we don’t want.