NBN Discussion

[Hvr]

Well they've turned and are working hard so here's hoping I can contact an RSP and tell them it's ready.

 

[marki]

Lynda2475 I do need to download a 50-100Gig file but not necessarily video however if it was a video I might need to download it quickly to a thumb drive or similar to take with me on a flight to watch where there is no streaming available. I am impressed with the quality of wifi enabled flights watching sky programs in high definition.

 

[Lynda2475]

Lynda2475 I do need to download a 50-100Gig file but not necessarily video however if it was a video I might need to download it quickly to a thumb drive or similar to take with me on a flight to watch where there is no streaming available. I am impressed with the quality of wifi enabled flights watching sky programs in high definition.

Everyones needs are different, I don't mind downloading large files over night before a flight.

 

[marki]

Of course everybody is different and have different needs. Doing online backups comes to mind. Especially if there is not enough time and the requirements are yesterday. I would prefer high throughput high speeds. I don’t need to ask for these in Germany or Poland. I wonder when our Australian speeds will get boosted to 200MB/sec or higher! ( I acknowledge what you had written however) lynda2475

 

[Lynda2475]

Well if you are on nbn fibre you can already get 250MB/Sec from some RSPs if you want to pay for it.

 

[rock86]

Is there a way to find out what the speed may be in my area as I don't have a 4G optus connected phone?

@rogerkambah
Yes go to Officeworks and get a cheap $20 (approx) prepaid USB Optus/Huawei 4g dongle and connect to computer and check speed

Optus offer:
4G Plus WiFi Modem (Cat 6) B525 Plans - Optus
4G Wi-Fi Modem (CAT 11) AC800S - Optus

Scroll down view plans then click right to see 500gb plan

Thanks for that (even though it was intended for someone else).

I knew about the Optus Home Mobile Broadband, but hadn't checked back for a while as it was capped at 6Mbps for most areas, and now there is no capped speeds and an $80/500Gb plan! Awesome!

Both my in-laws and parents can only get Satellite NBN, but have Optus mobile coverage. The in-laws have a direct line of sight to the Tower with a very strong signal (I've check before), so I might get them on the phone tonight so we can organise to get them onto this plan the coming weekend when I'm up there for Easter.

But the parents signal is week and so would need to investigate antennas etc, I think they might take some more convincing, especially as they've just connected to Satellite NBN (even though they have no lock in contract).

 

[Quickstatus]

The Optus modems has Porte for external antenna.

Go here: Telco Antennas

 

[marki]

Well if you are on nbn fibre you can already get 250MB/Sec from some RSPs if you want to pay for it.

The plan is not to pay that much extra for what is already an expensive proposition. 30 Euro gives you 400mb/sec and unlimited downloads.

 

[RooFlyer]

120 mins of a 4K movie/tv file can be up to 100Gb but it is unclear to me why it would be necessary to download such a file in its entirety is a couple of seconds? You can stream it live quite easily over a 50Mbps service. I tend t do larger downloads as a background task.

Haven't been following along all that much, but this may (or may not!) be of interest.

I live in rural Tas, so shopped around for NBN provider for my home business and, believe it or not, Telstra won out. About the same price for what I wanted and with 4G dongle back-up in case NBN goes out. The installation was a shambles, but I extracted a bit of cash (or rather bill credit) out of them for that.

Speeds reliably at the promised 45 Mbps and quite adequate for my usage. FTTN about 100m up the street.

I decided to go Netflix, and was interested to see how much data it was consuming on 4K, so I kept checking the 'Cusdata' 5 minute data logs, to see what Netflix was consuming. Custadata 5 minute data was a basket case - huge consumption reported overnight when nothing being used (I'm only one here and turn things off at night); often no data being reported when I was watching television or uploading/downloading files to OneDrive.

Reported it. Finally got someone who knew what they were talking about and they say that 'Custdata 5 minute data' just doesn't work with NBN. They monitored it for their side and got nothing like what Custdata 5 minute data was giving. Something to do with the data sampling and processing ... sounded crazy to me ... surely I thought they just had a 'meter' on the line and measured how much data passed through? No, it seems.

Anyway, I got a number where you can call to find out your data usage. Over the past 5 months, in spite of about an hour of Netflix 4K per day (sometimes 2! ), plus regular business etc use, my monthly data use they say hasn't been over 50Gb in any one month; some only 10-50 Gb. Just didn't sound right to me, but that's what they said.

 

[marki]

Haven't been following along all that much, but this may (or may not!) be of interest.

I live in rural Tas, so shopped around for NBN provider for my home business and, believe it or not, Telstra won out. About the same price for what I wanted and with 4G dongle back-up in case NBN goes out. The installation was a shambles, but I extracted a bit of cash (or rather bill credit) out of them for that.

Speeds reliably at the promised 45 Mbps and quite adequate for my usage. FTTN about 100m up the street.

I decided to go Netflix, and was interested to see how much data it was consuming on 4K, so I kept checking the 'Cusdata' 5 minute data logs, to see what Netflix was consuming. Custadata 5 minute data was a basket case - huge consumption reported overnight when nothing being used (I'm only one here and turn things off at night); often no data being reported when I was watching television or uploading/downloading files to OneDrive.

Reported it. Finally got someone who knew what they were talking about and they say that 'Custdata 5 minute data' just doesn't work with NBN. They monitored it for their side and got nothing like what Custdata 5 minute data was giving. Something to do with the data sampling and processing ... sounded crazy to me ... surely I thought they just had a 'meter' on the line and measured how much data passed through? No, it seems.

Anyway, I got a number where you can call to find out your data usage. Over the past 5 months, in spite of about an hour of Netflix 4K per day (sometimes 2! ), plus regular business etc use, my monthly data use they say hasn't been over 50Gb in any one month; some only 10-0 Gb. Just didn't sound right to me, but that's what they said.

It just doesn’t sound right but hey obviously the 4K films were not 50 GB each. Sometimes a 4 K film measures over 75GB.

 

[RooFlyer]

It just doesn’t sound right but hey obviously the 4K films were not 50 GB each. Sometimes a 4 K film measures over 75GB.

I have a sneaking suspicion that there is a line literally crossed somewhere and they aren't, and never have, been measuring my usage. Something happened during the install (NBN guy hooking up the copper to the FTTN box up the street) that I thought was strange; although I didn't have to be home, he did in fact call on me an asked to do some line tests "it makes it easier in this type of install to get the lines right").

With the Custdata 5 minute data, irrespective of whether it can accurately measure NBN or not, it was reporting data usage, and non usage wildly out of whack time-wise. One day I'll get a huge bill (I have a 500GB/month plan) but at least i have the history to challenge it.

 

[Quickstatus]

Netflix data usage at 4K is about 7-10 Gbytes per hour

Or 11 Gigabytes per hour Using the Netflix speed recommendation of 25Megabits per second for 4K.

 

[RooFlyer]

Yep, something's not adding up. And I do have the Netflx setting on the higher data rate (ie for 4K). Now, not everything on Netflix is 4K, but most of the stuff I watch is.

 

[Lynda2475]

Telstra stats dont seem right.

I'm with Aussie Broadband and their data usage reporting seems about right to me. My month usage average ranged between 70 - 120 GB, when not travelling I probably stream at least 4 hours a day in HD (not 4K) on weekdays and 8+ on weekends.

In the first 3 months I had a Stan 4K trial and i can say STAN compression is not as good as NetFlix, so whether in HD or 4K Stan always uses more data per hour than Netflix.

 

[drsmithy]

For mobile internet we are ranked 5th in the OECD, Australia has always had one of the highest mobile uptakes as a % of population in the world; and we have surprisingly good coverage given the size of our country and small population.

It's not really that surprising when you understand that Australia is a big land mass, but nearly completely empty.

We are one of the most urbanised societies on the planet. Our population is not widely geographically distributed - something like 80% of the population lives in ten cities and over half of it in just four.

 

[Hvr]

I'm with Aussie Broadband

My connection with them is due Friday morning. I've heard lots of good stuff so am hoping it works well. Still you're committed for the month so I can move on if required.

I still have nearly 200Gb on my mobile plan so if there is a problem I can just hotspot for awhile until it's rectified.

 

[Hvr]

Why do I have to deal with dumb people. My neighbour in the same block had her NBN connected on Tuesday. I told her to do a speed test to see what she's getting and to start a record in case there are any issues.

She sent it to me and asked if it was good, 23.3 download and 3.9 upload.

I asked what plan she was on. No idea! And she's allowed to vote.

 

[sjk]

Why do I have to deal with dumb people. My neighbour in the same block had her NBN connected on Tuesday. I told her to do a speed test to see what she's getting and to start a record in case there are any issues.

She sent it to me and asked if it was good, 23.3 download and 3.9 upload.

I asked what plan she was on. No idea! And she's allowed to vote.

Your neighbor may very well be asking why she has to deal with you.

 

[docjames]

This thread popped up and I have to say it’s been largely smooth sailing now with no drop outs or dramas and anything we’ve been streaming has done so without problem.

Still an issue of the wifi router struggling to cover the far ends of the house (poor signal / drops off) but I guess a “repeater” would help that. I was hopeful that the new wifi would be a little better than the old one in that regard but seems not. No issues for main areas / streaming tv.

 

[Quickstatus]

This thread popped up and I have to say it’s been largely smooth sailing now with no drop outs or dramas and anything we’ve been streaming has done so without problem.

Still an issue of the wifi router struggling to cover the far ends of the house (poor signal / drops off) but I guess a “repeater” would help that. I was hopeful that the new wifi would be a little better than the old one in that regard but seems not. No issues for main areas / streaming tv.

Just get a couple of Linksys Velop.

The first one is configured as a master and second one is the slave.

Turn off the wifi on the wifi router. Connect one Velop to router by Ethernet and configure. Then configure the Velop wifi. Then configure the second Velop to extend wifi. The second Velop connects to the first Velop via Wifi.