NBN Discussion

[Quickstatus]

Technically you are paying for a contended service. The speed you pay for is really a best case maximum. There's no speed guarantee. For that kind of service you need to sign up for a business plan and they get expensive.

NBN has the assortment and capacity installed at the POI. they are changing as if validity is scarce when it's plentiful. They need to be forced to cut the cvc cost to promote use. RSPs will then be able to aggregate into low or highly contented suppliers. They might also offer high and low grade plans to cater to the tourneys and those who value a fast service.

The private school near my house has a dedicated Fixed wireless service via a private broadband telco company- (similar technology to NBN fixed wireless).

The service is guaranteed 100 mbps up and 100 mbps down. Contention ration 1.0 - meaning no one else shares the same channel. Meaning real world actual speed is 100 mbps up and down. No ifs ands or buts. High bandwidth of 5TB /month

Price: $3800 per month

Im amazed people still fall for the xx_ mbps hype. What the telcos will not tell you is how many people are sharing the same line/channel.
The best analogy is the current tollroads around Australia. Speed 110 kmh and for the privilege - pay a toll (fine). Except they fill up that tollway with other cars so you actually travelling at 40 kmh during peak hour


I have asked the same company to quote me a Fixed wireless uncontended service at 25 Mbps up and down and 1TB/month. Cost $1200 per month.

 

[drsmithy]

Not really. For most people in Australia the max speeds they can get on 4G LTE are much faster than whatever broadband solutions they have.

Maybe if we'd started the NBN project a decade (or more) ago when we should have, that wouldn't be true today.

 

[whatmeworry]

Meanwhile the NBN CEO gets a payrise and bonus, considering it's over budget and not on time.

Bill Morrow, the chief executive of the company in charge of rolling out the national broadband network, has seen his annual pay jump 18.7 per cent to $3.6 million as the project gathers pace.

Mr Morrow's remuneration package for 2015/16 included a base salary and fees of $2.31 million and a $1.24 million bonus, plus around $42,000 in superannuation contributions and long service leave, according to NBN Co's annual report.

NBN boss Bill Morrow gets a pay rise | SBS News

 

[PLANT]

That's too cover security costs.... Doing such a pathetic job..... So many people wish to linch him!

 

[puppysparkes]

Re: The Lounge Wi-Fi Speedtest Thread

Do the IT guru's have any thoughts on this interesting article: Sell your unused data: Brisbane entrepreneur invents Wi-Fi sharing device

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Do you always have data left at the end of your monthly plan? There's an invention for that.
David Poxon, a software engineer and PhD student at the Queensland University of Technology, has invented a device that enables homes to sell their leftover data on a separate Wi-Fi network.

David Poxon's start-up company, Velvet, allows people to sell their unused internet data to others nearby via Wi-Fi. He's calling it "Uber for telcos".
Poxon's start-up company, Velvet, provides a device dubbed a "hotshot" that will sit on top of existing routers and owners can decide how much data to share that month.

The "hotshot" is a device that will sit on top of normal modems and owners can decide how much data to share in a given month. The device, he said, is a play on the phrase "Wi-Fi hot spot", and is shipped retail from overseas. Then Poxon and his sole staff member install the Velvet operating system, which sells for $60 a unit.
Velvet is gearing up to ship its first units by the end of September, and Poxon hopes to have 500 units up and running by the end of the year.
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"We had more interest than we could have hoped for, or expected. We're enjoying some excellent growth, despite the fact we haven't had any investment outside of QUT's BlueBox fund," he said.
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David Poxon hopes to sell 500 Velvet units by the end of the year, after experiencing strong interest. So why is the company called Velvet? Because for Poxon, it's all about making things smooth for users.
"The idea came to me when I was travelling and I noticed how difficult it was to find a strong Wi-Fi signal or change your SIM card to that of the country you were in," he said.
"It's a friction-heavy experience and I wanted to create something that is frictionless."
Poxon said he believes consumers will appreciate the access to data without complex, long and binding contracts.
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While the "Uber for telcos" might be a clever solution for users, is it legal? And what do the large communications companies make of it?
According to Poxon, the legality depends on the contract individual users have signed with their internet providers.
Despite this, some contracts also specify that technical support may not be available to those who provide networks to others using the existing service.
Another concern is that contracts may specify that modem owners are responsible for security on their own networks.
Poxon said security has been a primary focus.
"When Velvet shares your Wi-Fi it creates a new network, and that network allows your home network to be safe and secure," he said.

 

[cove]

Re: The Lounge Wi-Fi Speedtest Thread

OK my 90 year old mother in law gets a red light on the NBN box at her home. She calls them and they tell her to replace the battery which is under 12 months old and offer no assistance. The NBN wasn't required in the first place and their installation was messed up with 5 goes at it. They disconnected the security/panic call system ,broke the footpath and front fence a couple of times then asked them to sign a confidentiality document.
It does make me wonder if the NBN is Operation Bugger Up.

 

[PLANT]

Yes but COVE is the monthly bill on your credit card ?

 

[moa999]

Cove, the RSP should replace the battery if it fails within 2yrs. HUACA.

 

[hummel]

We have just had FTTN connected at our factory. Can someone tell me if we still need to pay line rental on the line that was bringing in the ADSL service?

We've moved the phone number across to VoIP and cancelling the ADSL service but was hoping to cancel the line rental too.

My concern is that FTTN operates over the existing copper line? I asked my Telstra rep but they couldn't give me a clear answer and I don't think they'll want to tell me I can save money to be honest...

 

[NM]

And as we all already knew, new technologies will make our NBN a "legacy" network pretty quickly.

Announced this week is a very interesting new technology, AirGig from AT&T Labs, with the ability to deliver multi-gigbit speeds along (not through) power lines.

AT&T Labs’ Project AirGig Nears First Field Trials for Ultra-Fast Wireless Broadband Over Power Lines

And some comments from the media about AirGig:

AT&T’s AirGig uses power lines for multi-gigabit, wireless broadband | Ars Technica
AT&T unveils AirGig for low-cost wireless broadband along power lines | Computerworld

And if that is not enough, lab testing (in ideal conditions) of 5G wireless technology has achieved up to 14Gbps to a single user and over 5Gbps per user in multi-user testing.

AT&T Sees Speeds up to 14 Gbps in Fixed 5G Trials | DSLReports, ISP Information

Field trials of 5G continue in Austin Texas.

Disclaimer: I work for AT&T. The opinions I express here are my own personal opinions and not necessarily those of my employer. I note the above technologies as examples of what future network services may reflect.

 

[Jeffrey O'Neill]

We have just had FTTN connected at our factory. Can someone tell me if we still need to pay line rental on the line that was bringing in the ADSL service?

We've moved the phone number across to VoIP and cancelling the ADSL service but was hoping to cancel the line rental too.

My concern is that FTTN operates over the existing copper line? I asked my Telstra rep but they couldn't give me a clear answer and I don't think they'll want to tell me I can save money to be honest...

Did you stay with the same provider?

If not then check with the old provider what they see as still active. Did you transfer your number to the VOIP account? if so and it's working then likely the voice service is no longer active but checking with your old voice supplier is porb the best way to confirm everything has been cancelled

 

[Jeffrey O'Neill]

Re: The Lounge Wi-Fi Speedtest Thread

Do the IT guru's have any thoughts on this interesting article: Sell your unused data: Brisbane entrepreneur invents Wi-Fi sharing device

I believe it would be contrary to most ToS for internet suppliers.

I'd also be worried as to how you could prove someone else did something illegal via your internet connection ie kiddy cough or say organising a terry wrist convention or even just torrenting tv shows and movies.

 

[hummel]

Did you stay with the same provider?

If not then check with the old provider what they see as still active. Did you transfer your number to the VOIP account? if so and it's working then likely the voice service is no longer active but checking with your old voice supplier is porb the best way to confirm everything has been cancelled

We moved from Telstra to iiNet - Still have some services with Telstra for other numbers but that will stay that way.

Trying to get a clear answer from Telstra has been a struggle... they told me we couldn't get FTTN in the first place!

 

[Jeffrey O'Neill]

We moved from Telstra to iiNet - Still have some services with Telstra for other numbers but that will stay that way.

Trying to get a clear answer from Telstra has been a struggle... they told me we couldn't get FTTN in the first place!

No easy answers with telstra. i work for what would be a top 10 customer by revenue for telstra and we get similar service to a home adsl customer. they have to be the sheetiest supplier to deal with.

 

[hummel]

No easy answers with telstra. i work for what would be a top 10 customer by revenue for telstra and we get similar service to a home adsl customer. they have to be the sheetiest supplier to deal with.

Glad I'm not the only one... I think

 

[cove]

Too late moa999 we had our handyman go to a battery shop to fix the red light problem on the NBN box.
Separately I can tell you we are impressed with the KISA mobile that my mother in law uses and she finds it is quite suitable for a 90 year old to operate. I think it costs about $15 a month and it fantastic for elderly parents. They have come out with an improved model recently but the current one she has is operating fine.

 

[moa999]

With FTTN you can definitely cancel your land line. With some very limited exceptions FTTN works like a naked ADSL service. In any event your line only goes back to the node, so you can no longer access the analogue service that is provided by the exchange.

(note there is a very small chance that you could have what is known as a pass-thru service, but hardly any RSPs offer it and I expect it needs to be specially ordered)

 

[moa999]

Too late moa999 we had our handyman go to a battery shop to fix the red light problem on the NBN box.
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Oh well. You probably got a better battery than what NBN would supply.

Having recently replaced my smoke alarm batteries (a similar backup only) - a decent Eveready Gold battery lasted 2+ yrs, whereas the cheapy Dick Smith batteries were not even lasting 5months

 

[cove]

We only go Energiser or Duracell at work. Many others are rubbish and don't last.

 

[cambriamarsh]

But remember that they can cover most of NZ with about 300km of fibre

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