New MH370 search aircraft investigation

[marki]

Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 (MH370) disappeared on March 8, 2014, during a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 people on board. The last communication was 38 minutes after takeoff, after which the plane deviated from its planned route, last tracked by military radar over the Andaman Sea. Subsequent satellite data from Inmarsat suggested the plane continued flying into the southern Indian Ocean, leading to extensive searches in that region.

Despite vast search efforts, no definitive wreckage was found until debris, confirmed from MH370, washed up on shores like Reunion Island and the East African coast. Theories abound, from mechanical failures to deliberate action by the pilot, but no conclusive cause has been established. The mystery persists, with occasional new searches proposed, but the fate of MH370 and those aboard remains one of aviation's greatest mysteries.

• University of Western Australia (UWA): UWA researchers, particularly Prof. Charitha Pattiaratchi and Dr. Sarath Wijeratne, used the Magnus supercomputer to model debris drift, predicting the trajectory of MH370 debris. Their simulations, based on ocean currents and wind, helped predict where debris would beach if released from various points along the 7th arc, significantly aiding in pinpointing the possible crash site. They successfully predicted the location of much of the debris found, enhancing the search's precision.
  https://theconversation.com/mh370-disappearance-10-years-on-can-we-still-find-it-224954
  
  The new search for Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 is set to begin after an agreement in principle was reached with Ocean Infinity. According to posts on X and related web results, the search is planned to start once details are finalized and a contract is signed, with no specific start date given but with expectations for the search to commence in the near future after December 20, 2024. The search will focus on a new 15,000 square kilometer area in the southern Indian Ocean under a "no find, no fee" arrangement.
  
  
  
  
  https://pawsey.org.au/case_studies/revealing-secrets-from-ocean-currents/

 

[marki]

Below is Approx by Pilot Byron Bailey - I flew with him !!

EVERYTHING ON AN AIRPLANE IS MADE TO FLOAT!

This right here should raise the questions. How was there NO debris ( immediately after ) ? No seats no piece of the aircraft. No ones backpack. NOTHING. NOT EVEN A DAMN EMTPY CUP.

 

[marki]

FYI

 

[marki]

Interesting Geoff Thomas from WA implies the aircraft did shatter on impact so is not intact but in pieces.

 

[DC3]

I wouldn’t go to any effort in quoting Sky News on anything, let alone missing aircraft.

 

[Scarlett]

>> EVERYTHING ON AN AIRPLANE IS MADE TO FLOAT!

It doesn’t matter if there were some objects floating (debris field) for the first 24 or even 48 hours, if no one is looking anywhere near the site.

 

[drron]

I wouldn’t go to any effort in quoting Sky News on anything, let alone missing aircraft.

Sky news has the best News program in Australia,. Yes I get that a lot of you don't like the commentators they have at night but forget that and watch their news. Keiran Gilbert is way ahead of most news presenters on Australian TV. The only person better is on the ABC as Insiders host and that is David Speers who of course worked at Sky News for nearly 19 years winning many awards whilst working at Sky.

 

[DC3]

Sky news has the best News program in Australia,. Yes I get that a lot of you don't like the commentators they have at night but forget that and watch their news. Keiran Gilbert is way ahead of most news presenters on Australian TV. The only person better is on the ABC as Insiders host and that is David Speers who of course worked at Sky News for nearly 19 years winning many awards whilst working at Sky.

Horses for courses, I suppose.

Away from Oz news services, some people like Fox8, but others prefer CNN.

 

[DC3]

>> EVERYTHING ON AN AIRPLANE IS MADE TO FLOAT!

It doesn’t matter if there were some objects floating (debris field) for the first 24 or even 48 hours, if no one is looking anywhere near the site.

Exactly. No-one knows where it went down.

 

[marki]

>> EVERYTHING ON AN AIRPLANE IS MADE TO FLOAT!

It doesn’t matter if there were some objects floating (debris field) for the first 24 or even 48 hours, if no one is looking anywhere near the site.

Yes, it is a tiny little fact; however, it is overlooked that footage of the satellite images is available to be looked at in retrospect.

 

[marki]

I wouldn’t go to any effort in quoting Sky News on anything, let alone missing aircraft.

Yeah, Politics get messy and can unintentionally upset many people. So I included

Is THIS the new MH370 search area? Expert gives verdict on £55m hunt — The Sun

A new search started on Ocean Infinity as per Apple News, but it may need paywall access.

 

[marki]

Exactly. No-one knows where it went down.

Well, some have had a go at trying to explain it and make good points. The debris found so far mainly excludes a soft, controlled landing in the Southern Ocean—Captain Byron Bailey's Favourite explanation.

 

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[DC3]

Well, some have had a go at trying to explain it and make good points

And coming up to the eleven-year anniverary

 

[marki]

Oh Yes

And coming up to the eleven-year anniverary

The anniversary is coming up on 8th March.

Is THIS the new MH370 search area? Expert gives verdict on £55m hunt — The Sun

 

[Scarlett]

Yes, it is a tiny little fact; however, it is overlooked that footage of the satellite images is available to be looked at in retrospect.

Do you understand how satellite imagery works? For bonus points, name a satellite currently conducting staring ops or imagery collection of a large, uninhabited water space and who is paying for that?

 

[marki]

Do you understand how satellite imagery works? For bonus points, name a satellite currently conducting staring ops or imagery collection of a large, uninhabited water space and who is paying for that?

Hi Scarlett,

Far be it for me to be an expert on satellites - I am not Elon Musk - but I believe - A Satellite Conducting Staring Ops or Imagery Collection would be several notable satellites for staring operations or prolonged observation of large uninhabited water spaces but one would be Jason-3.
It's part of a series of satellites dedicated to observing ocean topography for oceanography and climate studies. Jason-3, operated by NASA (National Aeronautics and Space Administration), NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration), EUMETSAT (European Organisation for the Exploitation of Meteorological Satellites), and CNES (Centre National d'Etudes Spatiales, the French space agency), collects data on sea surface height which can infer ocean currents, wind speed, and marine weather. Funding for such missions typically comes from these international collaborations, with each agency contributing to the project costs.

I remember being shown satellite images of those areas vast empty ocean. I learn every day because if I don't learn, I don't or won’t progress.
So, the Answer to your question and MH370 staring operations, and bonus points!

Yes, satellite imagery was indeed utilised in the search for Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370. After the plane went missing on March 8, 2014, various countries deployed their satellite assets to scan the possible crash areas.

• Optical Satellites: Satellites like WorldView (operated by DigitalGlobe, now Maxar Technologies) and Gaofen (Chinese satellite) were used to capture images where debris might be visible. However, these require good weather conditions and daylight.
• Radar Satellites: The German TerraSAR-X, operated by the German Aerospace Center (DLR), and the French Pleiades, used for high-resolution imagery, were also employed. These could "see" through clouds, providing images when optical satellites could not.

 

[markis10]

It's part of a series of satellites dedicated to observing ocean topography for oceanography and climate studies. Jason-3,

Jason-3 does not capture images though, observation is done via laser targeting to measure heights

 

[marki]

Jason-3 does not capture images though, observation is done via laser targeting to measure heights

The challenge was to name a satellite which I did. Jason-3 does surface topography measurements (the hills and valleys of the ocean surface). Using Radar Altimeter Methods and not Laser! Later mentioning some active optical and x-ray satellites.

 

[DC3]

The challenge was to name a satellite which I did. Jason-3 does surface topography measurements (the hills and valleys of the ocean surface). Using Radar Altimeter Methods and not Laser! Later mentioning some active optical and x-ray satellites.

So, where would you be looking in any search? I have idea whatsoever by the way.