New Qantas route - Perth to Paris from July 2024

[AIRwin]

Au revoir? Pourquoi?

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media-releases/au-revoir-paris-now-just-a-direct-qantas-flight-away/

 

[LondonAussie]

QF33 has just landed in Paris. Finally, after the pandemic and years of disputes between QF and PER airport and the French Government, this is now a reality. Also, after 11 years, 2 months and 29 days, Qantas has finally resumed regular services to continental Europe.

Remember all that doom and gloom in 2013-14 when people said that there is no chance of regular QF flights to Europe again? I think the Asian/ME carriers have passed their peak on the Aus-Europe corridor and the tide is turning in Qantas' favour again.

I look forward to FRA returning in the not so distant future as well.

What am I missing here - Qantas has been flying to Rome since 2022?

 

[TheRealTMA]

What am I missing here - Qantas has been flying to Rome since 2022?

But not direct AFAIK?

 

[justinbrett]

What am I missing here - Qantas has been flying to Rome since 2022?

I think the distinction is that FCO is seasonal but CDG is year-round.

 

[Sprucegoose]

Qantas has taken off for Paris this evening launching new flights connecting Australia and France for the first time.

The new direct flights between Perth and Paris marks the return of the Flying Kangaroo operating services to the City of Light for the first time in 20 years.

This is from the Qantas News Room - a sloppy piece of journalism.

 

[PeterA]

Has anyone actually tried the Salon Paul Maxence Lounge at CDG previously?

 

[AIRwin]

Has anyone actually tried the Salon Paul Maxence Lounge at CDG previously?

Some photos here (not mine):

PARIS to SINGAPORE Singapore Airlines Business class Feb 2022

Paris - Singapore - Melbourne Singapore Airlines Business Class 17th February 2022 RED TAPE Let’s start with the bureaucracy. Mrs D and I have had enough of Covid so came to Paris for a 10 day break just because we can! Having said that, at times the paperwork to get here and back became...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

 

[Cognac]

But not direct AFAIK?

Direct. PER-FCO non-stop operates multiple times a week, but only for a few months of the year.

 

[vbap]

Entering the SIN J lounge tonight prior to QF36, and the attendent asked if I had heard about the Paris flight. Yes, I had just read the ET trip report. So he offered me the Paris branded amenities pack. I mentioned I noticed the PJs so he got a pair of those for me instead. Then he asked to have a photo together with the merch.

Didn't help my upgrade request though

 

[Beano]

15 years too late for me. Had to go to Paris and ended up via Singapore from Sydney. The flight from Singapore was Air France. Arrived in Paris , sans baggage, and leaving in 3 days for Monaco where I and my wife and young son were going for a black tie event at La Rascasse. Glad rags in the luggage and arrived just before we left Paris. Phew! Had to stop the waiters serving champagne to our 12 year old amongst a bunch or other young ones at a separate table from us oldies.

 

[downtheback]

Has anyone got experience flying into PER from LHR/CDG/FCO and then connecting to an onward domestic flight? Do I have to go all the way out to the curbside to check in and bag drop, or do they have a transit desk airside? Thanks

 

[Daver6]

Has anyone got experience flying into PER from LHR/CDG/FCO and then connecting to an onward domestic flight? Do I have to go all the way out to the curbside to check in and bag drop, or do they have a transit desk airside? Thanks

After customs and immigration you will be where the "entry" bit on right that I've highlighted. Check-in terminals are right there. If they're closed you walk indoor maybe 100m to the T4 check-in section. No need to exit a building. You can't do anything airside as you need to clear customers and immigration in PER.

 

[downtheback]

After customs and immigration you will be where the "entry" bit on right that I've highlighted. Check-in terminals are right there. If they're closed you walk indoor maybe 100m to the T4 check-in section. No need to exit a building. You can't do anything airside as you need to clear customers and immigration in PER.


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Thanks for that. That's what I thought would be the case, but was hoping they'd have a transfer desk after customs to drop bags off rather than using the main check in desks. Cheers

 

[LondonAussie]

I did the LHR-PER-MEL flight a few years ago (when it was still the 787 PER-MEL) and found it tedious having to collect and re-check bags in PER.

In the other direction I found the pre 5am landing into LHR to be tedious. At least the CDG flights seem slightly better timed for a 7am local arrival.

These days I'm usually on EK metal when buying QF between Australia and Europe!

 

[CaptJCool]

I did the LHR-PER-MEL flight a few years ago (when it was still the 787 PER-MEL) and found it tedious having to collect and re-check bags in PER.

In the other direction I found the pre 5am landing into LHR to be tedious. At least the CDG flights seem slightly better timed for a 7am local arrival.

These days I'm usually on EK metal when buying QF between Australia and Europe!

Wants and needs

QF add the no stops premium to the price - 20% plus extra

I can’t justify that price point In my spending plan so will unlikely fly QF internationally UNLESS they cut down their over-pricing

Soon I won’t need the status credits. Either so domestic flying on rewards points is more than likely

 

[InfrequentEconomy]

QF add the no stops premium to the price - 20% plus extra

I can’t justify that price point In my spending plan so will unlikely fly QF internationally UNLESS they cut down their over-pricing

I don't understand it.

Landing a plane and taking off again surely costs significantly more than a direct flight, even if considering the extra crew costs.

 

[LondonAussie]

Are the crew for the Paris & Rome flights based in Australia or the UK/Europe?

I recall the Perth-London & Singapore-London QF sectors are usually a UK-based crew who are paid less than their Aussie counterparts.

 

[InfrequentEconomy]

If flying business is there a better lounge than the Qantas one?

Would Emirates be an option?

 

[Mattg]

I just found a bit of Classic Reward availability on this route in J, for various dates in November:



Nothing in the other direction.

I don't think I've seen J availability on this route before.

 

[CaptJCool]

I don't understand it.

Landing a plane and taking off again surely costs significantly more than a direct flight, even if considering the extra crew costs.

Yes it does

However, pricing isn’t based on cost

It’s based on profit extraction


Also yes English flight crews to London - Perth

The union did an exposure of their low pay rates for the English QF AND JQ Vietnamese, Indonesian and Thai flight crews

Don’t know if crews turn up from Rome or Paris bases?