Nice wines I have drunk recently - Red or White

[Wine Fiend]

I've always wanted to get into Barolo, but Ive always struggled to decide which one to try. I know VinoMofo has some but I'm a little hesitant to get some from there.
I know Winestar and Boccaccio sell a wide variety of them, but I'm just not sure which one's to buy - plus some of the prices scare me off a little.

I think I'll ask the guy from Wine Decoded, currently my go to for the good stuff. Seems to have a heap of offers, wines, drinks and writes a lot about Barolo.

A good start!

I love the stuff!

To try one from Elio Altare and one from Podere Aldo Conterno. These are available from Dans's. They need to be aged for at least 5-10 years and open, decant, taste, then leave for 2 hrs before drinking.

Have a read of Decanter magazine on their Barolo reviews.
Some background

• Barolo - Wikipedia
• Essential Guide to Piedmont Wine (with Maps) | Wine Folly
• Official Map of Barolo, Barbaresco, Diano d'Alba | Dall'Uva
• Piedmont wine route: top 10 guide

Enjoy!

They had a couple from Aldo Conterno, this offer Aldo Conterno's 2012 Cru's, Is this the DRC of Barolo? + the 100 point Granbussia's, 2008 & 2005! - Wine Decoded

There was a Aldo Coterno Romirisco from 2005 which they say is the best vineyard. Poderi Aldo Conterno 'Romirasco' Cru Barolo - Wine Decoded

They also had wines from Paolo Scavino, Vietti, Massolino and Barbaresco from Produttori Barbaresco. Any thoughts on these?

They seem to be raving about 2013 too.

Absolutely! It’s the only way to taste and get your head around Le Langhe (hills) and Barolo (plus some brilliant Conterno Barbara’s), not to mention truffles and the scenery. Fly/train to Torino and drive down, stay in Alba for 4-5 days and visit wineries!

But do homework on the region, soil types, grapes, producers, etc, first.

We should organise an AFF Wine lovers trip! I’ll drive.

That sounds like a might fine plan!

The recent Giovanni Rossos that VM has are quite good. The Manzone not so much.

It’s worth getting a Wine Front subscription, as Gary Walsh reviews a lot of Barolo/Barberesco. Unfortunately the prices tend to be hard to stomach when just wanting to try things out. Might be worth going to some Piedmont wine tastings.

Will check them out!

 

[TheRealTMA]

They also had wines from Paolo Scavino, Vietti, Massolino and Barbaresco from Produttori Barbaresco. Any thoughts on these?

Yes all very good producers. The debate between Barbaresco and Barolo is an interest one. An interesting article in Decanter recently. Barolo versus Barbaresco: Myth and reality - Andrew Jefford - Decanter

They seem to be raving about 2013 too.

Haven’t tried any of them yet, too young, but sounds interesting, but it’s often (usually?) a bit like Real Estate agents talking about house prices, except that one has to wait 6-10 years to see the value in the purchase!

From Decanter...

“Barolo 2013 is not an easy vintage to compare with predecessors. There seems slightly less grip than in the magnificent 2010s, more freshness and zest than the fleshier 2011s, more structure and complexity than the 2012s.

Some wines seem quite forward, but I suspect many of them, including some that may seem a tad disappointing now, will blossom after a few more years in bottle.”

Barolo 2013 vintage report and top wines - Decanter expert guide

 

[Daver6]

Also with Barolo, you need to keep in mind the difference between the traditionalists and modernists in terms of approachability of the wines. Another thing to remember is Barolo needs some serious decanting. Even older ones. Decanting in the morning is not uncommon.

 

[TheRealTMA]

Also with Barolo, you need to keep in mind the difference between the traditionalists and modernists in terms of approachability of the wines. Another thing to remember is Barolo needs some serious decanting. Even older ones. Decanting in the morning is not uncommon.

Agreed! The discussion of traditional wines made in Botti with no temp control and modern in barrique with rotary fermenters and temp control etc is fascinating. However the truely old tradition I believe is long gone since the radical change in vineyard management since the late ‘70s with reduced bunch load, canopy opening and other ‘modern’ methods.

But one can still compare large and small barrel fermentation often from within the same producer from the same vineyard.

All fascinating for those of us obsessed.

Don’t forget most Australians buy their wine in the morning, lay it down (for the afternoon) then drink it at night at 25 degrees.

 

[MrEd]

View attachment 109362 A couple I have enjoyed recently:

How was your Glenlofty? Mine are losing that juicy acidic edge, with a slight vinegar note creeping in on day two. Just five left, so planning on finishing those over the coming months.

 

[Steady]

How was your Glenlofty? Mine are losing that juicy acidic edge, with a slight vinegar note creeping in on day two. Just five left, so planning on finishing those over the coming months.

I have a dozen of the '12 to get through before moving onto the '13 - but mine don't last 2 days
Are others noticing the same thing?
If so, maybe I should increase their consumption rate

 

[Buzzard]

The Glenlofty only lasted a few hours.
I thought it was quite smooth and easy to drink. Very approachable and nothing confronting. It was my last bottle and we drank it because I didn't have the confidence that it would go much longer.
Better to drink now and enjoy than the alternative.

 

[Major]

I had lunch in Sydney on Tuesday with a few blokes I grew up with. We have known each other for almost 70 years.

Along with a 1997 Penfolds RWT our host opened a 1997 Grange.

The Grange won the day. What a fabulous wine, great depth of character and wonderful flavour. I only just caught my 6pm flight back to BNE

 

[TheRealTMA]

I had lunch in Sydney on Tuesday with a few blokes I grew up with. We have known each other for almost 70 years.

Along with a 1997 Penfolds RWT our host opened a 1997 Grange.

The Grange won the day. What a fabulous wine, great depth of character and wonderful flavour. I only just caught my 6pm flight back to BNEView attachment 109455

There’s a colloquial word starting with ‘B’ that comes to mind.

 

[drron]

So tonight I sampled the dornfelder.A German hybrid dating from 1979 in an effort to get a bigger cool climate red.
For a change the description on the label is accurate.I could definitely taste blueberries with a peppery after taste.After opened for a while the peppery tastes toned down and it became a very pleasant easy drinking wine and I do enjoy it.
I am not sure that it will last for long but I will buy some more.

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It is from White Rock vineyards between Elizabethtown and Railton.They don't operate a cellar door.They did sell through Lake Barrington vineyards but they have shut down their cellar door.So I emailed the owner and he sent some over to a family member who lives in Launceston and delivered to me yesterday.
Of course today I went and had lunch at Alps and Amici and they not only stock the dornfelder but sell it by the glass with lunch.Lunch is pretty good by the way.
White Rock Vineyard - Tasmanian Wines

Alps & Amici is a foodstore and kitchen located in Launceston, Tasmania.

 

[Delectable Blue]

So tonight I sampled the dornfelder.

I tasted the White Rock dornfelder earlier in the year at the Tassie Red Wine Weekend. I was very impressed by it - great purity and length, and the colour of the wine was amazing, almost fluorescing it was so bright. I got some of the wine on my hands, and it stained them bright purple for days.

 

[georgehall]

I have a dozen of the '12 to get through before moving onto the '13 - but mine don't last 2 days
Are others noticing the same thing?
If so, maybe I should increase their consumption rate

I've still got some 2011 I stumbled across the other day when I moved house...I think that needs to be drunk quick smart by the sounds of it.

 

[Steady]

I've still got some 2011 I stumbled across the other day when I moved house...I think that needs to be drunk quick smart by the sounds of it.

I plan to open a '12 GL SV tonight- my last '12 Shiraz was only a month ago and I don't recall anything that made me think it was at or past it's prime - but am happy to heed the advice to those with more experience then I.

Interested to hear what your '11s are like.

 

[barryc108]

Lol. I have 14x glenlofty SV 2013 left. Now i am panicking.

 

[Steady]

Lol. I have 14x glenlofty SV 2013 left. Now i am panicking.

After tonight's I have 11, I don't think there is any rush....

 

[boomy]

Good steak + Good wine = Great meal.

 

[AnonymousCoward]

Good steak + Good wine = Great meal.

The Freedom 2006 is a cracka IMHO.

 

[TheRealTMA]

Found a nice dry-aged beef rib eye (Eggcettera Farm beer malt beef ) at Billy’s Meats at ashgrove and this went well with it. Nicely aged and about peak drinking now.

“Bright, clear purple-crimson; a 38/32/30% blend; the color typifies the wine, similarly bright and lively, with crunchy red and black fruits, and great clarity of line. It is light- to medium- bodied, and can be enjoyed any time from now on. - James Halliday Australian Wine Companion 2013”
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Billy’s Rib. 4 minutes on very hot grill pan, turning every 25s, 8 minutes in 180C oven ‘till internal temperature reached 57C, return to grill pan over medium heat with 75gms of butter, chives, time and crushed garlic, cook turning every 30s and basted for another 4 mins. Rested for 8 minutes, cut, served.

 

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Hilton Taupo
I couldn’t find any Nanny Goat. :-(

 

[TheRealTMA]

GPH Try one of these. Had this last Xmas at Hilton Taupo. Was just lovely!