Nice wines I have drunk recently - Red or White

[boomy]

If you haven’t read this then I’d highly recommend it. The main characters were regularly buying wine from deceased estates and divorces but it they got another opportunity too good to pass up: Stalin's Wine Cellar : Baker, John, Place, Nick: Amazon.com.au: Books

Thanks. See if I can get it through audible 30 day trial.

 

[TheRealTMA]

Thanks. See if I can get it through audible 30 day trial.

You can also listen to the Conversations episode.

Finding Stalin's wine cellar - ABC listen

John Baker on hunting down a cache of rare and impossibly valuable French wine which had been hidden away by Josef Stalin, deep in the Republic of Georgia

www.abc.net.au

 

[qaz]

May have to look for the Gomas then, I thought Cirillo Ancestor Vines was really good.

afaik Gomas was only made in 2015

2015 LiNO RaMBLe Gomas Grenache

Grenache. The poor bugger has been treated quite badly over the years. Mainly used for fortified wines many years ago, it was one of the varieties that felt the wrath of the vine pull scheme in t…

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Where was my advice? I feel like your posts have rapidly propelled spending

but hopefully spending better?

you could try just buying focussed/thematic mixed six-packs each month as i suggested to @Mynameislucluc

I think this is really useful experience and advice - over the past two years, I think we have drastically scaled our wine purchases, variety of drinking, knowledge etc. What has been a recent realisation is a lot of the bottles we acquired early on are unlikely to be drunk (which isn't even that long ago). Even recent purchases are likely to be neglected, though I have also moved significantly from a target acquisition cost of 30 p/b.

Seems like many hobbies of mine, focused/intense interest phase leads to excess, which ends up being scaled back to more moderate levels? For wine it seems like many seem to keep reaching for the next lofty height - doesn't seem sustainable for us at least.

it's simple - 4 factors:

• storage volume
• buying volume
• consumption volume
• spending value

assuming fixed capacity, storage will decrease when buying more than is being consumed, which means that if spending remains constant, then bottle unit costs will increase, since there is less room left to keep future new purchases, and so over time more expensive wines are acquired that inevitably replace cheaper ones

Agree there’s nothing wrong with buying heaps of wine, if you have a plan what to do with it.

don't need to have a plan - just need space

Reminds me of an interesting conversation with the operations manager of a big storage facility I use saying he’s constantly amazed by how many people pass away leaving behind so much expensive old wine (which they may or may not bought cheap back then but what difference does it make).

did he also say what happens to all their wine after they pass?

It is a depressing reality that as one's purchasing capacity expands , the consumptive capacity recedes…

as above, if you drink less, then buy better

Trying some Jura tonight - would drink more except for an entree level curvee it is already $$$.

$71.40 (after 15% off) is $$$? not worth it?

So… Dry July.
Maybe next year

This “dry” Shiraz I’m having tonight is not bad

i still have mine - for how long did you decant it? much life left?

Thanks. See if I can get it through audible 30 day trial.

You can also listen to the Conversations episode.

Finding Stalin's wine cellar - ABC listen

John Baker on hunting down a cache of rare and impossibly valuable French wine which had been hidden away by Josef Stalin, deep in the Republic of Georgia

www.abc.net.au

or see/hear/watch him live - and more

Stalin's Wine Cellar

Has anyone read this? Featured in the Weekend Oz's magazine https://www.penguin.com.au/books/stalins-wine-cellar-9781760893132

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[billbro]

but hopefully spending better?

you could try just buying focussed/thematic mixed six-packs each month as i suggested to

I think we are all drinking better thanks to your deals, Ms. B does not consider whether spending is better or not (as I save more not spending at all).

Rather than buying thematic/mixed six-pack, I think we tend to drink in thematic or pairs but purchase where we see a good deal. However, narrowing the focus rather than trying everything now that we have a better gauge should help with spend and acquisition (i.e. on-going yearly list has already been tightened).

$71.40 (after 15% off) is $$$? not worth it?

Worth or value probably comes back to another post you made previously. Am I glad we purchased? Yes I am (different deal same vendor), but would I repurchase? Probably not, as I think I can get similar profiles and enjoyment from Pat Sullivan (minus some acid) for cheaper.

 

[Coz]

$71.40 (after 15% off) is $$$? not worth it?

You link PWS. Where is the 15% off from?

 

[AFAFA]

You link PWS. Where is the 15% off from?

You can get it for that price from vivino

 

[boomy]

i still have mine - for how long did you decant it? much life left?

Decanted for two hours, drank over four hours roughly. Seems to be at it’s peak I’d say drink sooner rather than later.

did he also say what happens to all their wine after they pass?

I did ask and he said that in many cases family members don’t share the same enthusiasm towards wine as the deceased but he didn’t elaborate.

don't need to have a plan - just need space

This is the easy part, just pay for managed storage and you’ll get unlimited space The hard part is the ability to restrain from buying more than one can drink in their lifespan.

 

[Daver6]

Theme last night was South African wines. Reyneke Chenin was WOTN. Even the Pinotage showed well. The La Motte seemed oxidised Damn corks.

 

[baiden]

Theme last night was South African wines. Reyneke Chenin was WOTN. Even the Pinotage showed well. The La Motte seemed oxidised Damn corks.

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How did you find the chocolate block, looks like '18?

 

[Daver6]

How did you find the chocolate block, looks like '18?

Yes it was the '18. It was well regarded by the group and I liked it. Black fruit, herbs, black tea on the nose. Med+ tannins and balanced acid. Dark fruit on the palate with decent length.

 

[VeniVidiVici]

Theme last night was South African wines. Reyneke Chenin was WOTN. Even the Pinotage showed well. The La Motte seemed oxidised Damn corks.

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Where did you purchase the RSA wines? We visited La Motte, Moreson andGrand Provence a few years ago and were very impressed, would love to get some for the cellar.

 

[baiden]

Where did you purchase the RSA wines? We visited La Motte, Moreson andGrand Provence a few years ago and were very impressed, would love to get some for the cellar.

Copper and Oak in Tuart Hill have RSA wines (amongst others)

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[Daver6]

Where did you purchase the RSA wines? We visited La Motte, Moreson andGrand Provence a few years ago and were very impressed, would love to get some for the cellar.

The Reyneke and La Motte were purchased at the cellar door by yours truly. I knwo some of the Reyneke wines are imported into Australia. The Pinotage came from the Re Store in Leederville and I can't recall exactly, but one came from Dan's and another from Gangemi's in West Perth and pretty sure Copper & Oak for another.

Copper and Oak in Tuart Hill have RSA wines (amongst others)

Copper & Oak - Online Liquor Store - Australia Wide Delivery

Shop online for beer, wine and spirits in Copper & Oak's online liquor store - we deliver Australia wide! You can also visit our family-owned bottle shop in Perth. Check out our massive range of beer, craft beer, red & white wine, rum, vodka, whisky, gin and more. 3000+ products to choose from...

www.copperandoak.com.au

As @baiden said. They probably have the best selection in Perth.

What really makes you cry though is knowing what one would pay in RSA and seeing what it costs here. Local wine is incredibly cheap in RSA.

 

[VeniVidiVici]

What really makes you cry though is knowing what one would pay in RSA and seeing what it costs here. Local wine is incredibly cheap in RSA.

Yep. The quality for the price over there was fantastic. Not to mention some very scenic cellar doors.

 

[pagingjoan]

Yep. The quality for the price over there was fantastic. Not to mention some very scenic cellar doors.

Now you are both making me long for another visit to that beautiful region.
Agree re the pricing, too. We would often find ourselves checking to make sure that we had not misheard of misread the price.

 

[boomy]

Yep. The quality for the price over there was fantastic. Not to mention some very scenic cellar doors.

Now you are both making me long for another visit to that beautiful region.
Agree re the pricing, too. We would often find ourselves checking to make sure that we had not misheard of misread the price.

So true. The amount of history packed in some of those wineries is incredible. We were blown away by the hospitality, quality of wines and off course the price

 

[Daver6]

So true. The amount of history packed in some of those wineries is incredible. We were blown away by the hospitality, quality of wines and off course the price

And the quality of the food.

Next AFF wine meet-up in Franschoek then?

 

[boomy]

And the quality of the food.

Next AFF wine meet-up in Franschoek then?

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I’m in for that!
We were talking (pre-Covid) that’s it’s time to revisit.
Will be a while until that can happen but one can dream…

 

[VeniVidiVici]

And the quality of the food.

Next AFF wine meet-up in Franschoek then?

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That drive up and over the Franschoek Pass aint bad either!

 

[boomy]

Very good Chardonnays from DN, both entry level Floris and the more premium Artus are great value for money.