Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[Alanslegal]

Re: RTW Planning using FF points - Newbie!

I am trying to do a dummy booking for a OW award for a friend. MXP-HKG-SYD-NRT-SYD-LHR-MXP. I am pretty sure this is under the 35000 miles limit, I have chosen CX for MXP-HKG, and BA for LHR-MXP, so I already have the two non-QF OW members; however, it will not price it for me at the OW award rate of 140k points. I get quoted 200k+.

How do I fix this? Am I doing something wrong?

I am guessing the two SYD visits are not allowed.

 

[eosphoros]

Re: RTW Planning using FF points - Newbie!

I am guessing the two SYD visits are not allowed.

Is that a rule? If so, that's absurd!

Edit: Apparently it is a rule. Changing one of them to route NRT-(SYD)-MEL instead gives me the normal 140k rate... even though it routes through SYD still.

 

[serfty]

Re: RTW Planning using FF points - Newbie!

Is that a rule? If so, that's absurd!

Edit: Apparently it is a rule. Changing one of them to route NRT-(SYD)-MEL instead gives me the normal 140k rate... even though it routes through SYD still.

The rules are listed in post 2:

14.5.4 The following Stopover conditions apply:
(a) up to five free Stopovers are permitted;
(b) additional Stopovers are not permitted;
(c) only one Stopover is permitted in any one city in the Itinerary; and
(d) only two Transfers may be taken at any one city in the Itinerary.

NRT-(SYD)-MEL [or to use industry standards: "NRT-xSYD-MEL"] is a SYD transfer.
NRT-SYD-MEL is a SYD stopover.

 

[eosphoros]

Re: RTW Planning using FF points - Newbie!

Thanks serfty! I couldn't find the rules on the QF website :-S

 

[dajop]

Deleted as answered already

 

[Scarlett]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Hello all.

Just adding a positive, success, data point to the thread.

Booked, in J:

SYD-HKG (stopover) -BKK-AMM-DOH (stopover) -LHR (destination, open jaw) -CDG-AMM-DOH (stopover) -HKG-MEL-SYD.

280,000 QFF points, every leg in Business, in a peak period.

I'm also intrigued... how did you manage to get two stopovers in DOH? I could understand if one was a transit but you've indicated both are a stopover.

 

[Scarlett]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

On a slightly different matter: has anyone successfully booked a DONE4 together with a 280K award J booking? What I mean is, able to have two people fly the RTW together through same stops but one is booked on a J award ticket and the other is on a DONE4?

I don't have enough points to be able to double up for 2 x J award tickets, but points for one and $ for the other is something I would consider. And yes I know that the simple answer is to fly on 2 x Y award tickets, but after my last trip SYD-LAX-SYD in whY it's something I'm trying to avoid.

I can see that the award ticket will have the greater restrictions and figure I should be able to replicate that itinerary on a DONE4.

 

[madrooster]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

On a slightly different matter: has anyone successfully booked a DONE4 together with a 280K award J booking? What I mean is, able to have two people fly the RTW together through same stops but one is booked on a J award ticket and the other is on a DONE4?

I don't have enough points to be able to double up for 2 x J award tickets, but points for one and $ for the other is something I would consider. And yes I know that the simple answer is to fly on 2 x Y award tickets, but after my last trip SYD-LAX-SYD in whY it's something I'm trying to avoid.

I can see that the award ticket will have the greater restrictions and figure I should be able to replicate that itinerary on a DONE4.

I've been able to replicate 1 paid 1 award ticket before but be prepared to have maybe one or two legs on different flights. Plan out the award ticket first, then use the OW RTW planner to try and match the award ticket.

 

[davep2012]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Hi all,

First time poster so apologies in advance if this is the wrong place to ask, but here goes:
We're going on our honeymoon next July-August and am trying to book a few flights with our points. We'll have just over 300,000 so trying to use the Oneworld fare which should set us back 280K (2 ppl)?

Ideally, we want to go to the following places and would like to get maximum value for our points and to save on train, internal flights paid with money.
- Start in Melbourne, London, Paris, Monaco or Nice, Madrid, Barcelona, Rome, Almafi Coast, Greek Island back home to Melbourne.

I understand there is a fair few stops in there, could anyone recommend what they think we could get on points and let me know if I should just train it between London and Paris for example?

Thanks again for any advice received

 

[JohnK]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Ideally, we want to go to the following places and would like to get maximum value for our points and to save on train, internal flights paid with money.
- Start in Melbourne, London, Paris, Monaco or Nice, Madrid, Barcelona, Rome, Almafi Coast, Greek Island back home to Melbourne.

Welcome to AFF davep2012!

Trying to fit in all those destinations you are going to start to run into trouble transitting a city more than 2 times as there are no direct Oneworld flights for some of those destinations.

You are probably better off choosing 2-3 stopovers in Europe outside of London and make your way around from there. eg stopover in Rome or Athens and use Aegean to get to the other city and they have really cheap flights.

 

[flychrisfly]

Hi all,

First time poster so apologies in advance if this is the wrong place to ask, but here goes:
We're going on our honeymoon next July-August and am trying to book a few flights with our points. We'll have just over 300,000 so trying to use the Oneworld fare which should set us back 280K (2 ppl)?

Ideally, we want to go to the following places and would like to get maximum value for our points and to save on train, internal flights paid with money.
- Start in Melbourne, London, Paris, Monaco or Nice, Madrid, Barcelona, Rome, Almafi Coast, Greek Island back home to Melbourne.

I understand there is a fair few stops in there, could anyone recommend what they think we could get on points and let me know if I should just train it between London and Paris for example?

Thanks again for any advice received

I would also look at some overnight train trips - saves money on hotels and you see more of the countries outside their cities plus you save on airport transfers in both time and money.

 

[deejo77]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

I would do something like
Melbourne to London (QFF points)
Cheap internal flight to Nice (LGW to NCE I have seen with BA for under $100 one way - you could go cheap like ryan air or those other LCC)
Cheap internal flight Nice to Paris (AF has been as cheap as $75 one way)
Paris to Madrid (QFF points)
Train return to barcelona
Madrid to Athens (QFF points)
Athens to Melbourne (QFF points)

Good luck with it all.

 

[Flashback]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

I would do something like
Melbourne to London (QFF points)
Cheap internal flight to Nice (LGW to NCE I have seen with BA for under $100 one way - you could go cheap like ryan air or those other LCC)
Cheap internal flight Nice to Paris (AF has been as cheap as $75 one way)
Paris to Madrid (QFF points)
Train return to barcelona
Madrid to Athens (QFF points)
Athens to Melbourne (QFF points)

Good luck with it all.

LGW-NCE even on "full service" BA, £49 ; very cheap.

 

[Peter78]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Just booked my first oneworld award, using 140,000 points for travel in February 2013. All done online, with the routing being SYD - DUS (via SIN and LHR)/ DUS - LAX - LAS/ LAS - LAX - SYD. Quite happy with this deal, taxes worked out to be $823.

 

[Princess Fiona]

Yes correct John. What I was getting at was if I book originally just a one way flight MEL-LAX in J for 90,000 odd I can then call up and add all of the other segments later to complete the trip and it will price out at 280,000 plus the 5,000 change fee. So you don't have to wait until your last flight is bookable to book the first one.

Just double checking this if that's ok?
I want to book 2 x 280K awards starting Nov/Dec next year. Needing to get two seats to JFK at 353 days out. Availability in Dec will be a major issue and only more so if I wait for the return availability in Feb. Also is there anything to prevent back-tracking eg SYD-HKG-JFK-YVR ( or SFO, LAX etc)?

 

[Dantine]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Others have advised you should be able to book the JFK trip at 353 days out. If I am not mistaken, when the Feb availability opens, you can call up and get flights added to the itinerary and it should be repriced as a Oneworld Award (if you meet the other fare rules).

Unlike the paid fare, there is nothing to prevent backtracking. Just 35000 miles and any five destinations in the network, up to a max of 16 segments.

 

[Jacques Vert]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Just double checking this if that's ok?
I want to book 2 x 280K awards starting Nov/Dec next year. Needing to get two seats to JFK at 353 days out. Availability in Dec will be a major issue and only more so if I wait for the return availability in Feb. Also is there anything to prevent back-tracking eg SYD-HKG-JFK-YVR ( or SFO, LAX etc)?

Hello Princess,

Don't forget that as a WP you can ring QFF and request the seats be made available. I did this last year for my son and daughter in law, requesting two J seats to SIN in the week before Xmas. They had to go via BNE but they did get them. JV

 

[Princess Fiona]

Thankyou bunza and Jacques vert
I'm going to book those seats as soon as I see them.
Award nexus and Expert Flyer are all fired up

 

[sumthinfornuthin]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

How does 16 segments and 5 destinations work ?

Does that mean only 5 STOPOVERS ??

16 segments is a lot of transiting ?

thanks, must look into these fares

 

[serfty]

re: "oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

How does 16 segments and 5 destinations work ?

Does that mean only 5 STOPOVERS ??

16 segments is a lot of transiting ?

thanks, must look into these fares

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