Oz Federal Election 2013 - Discussion and Comments

[Pukka]

oh dear, be prepared for the faux outrage about mental health...

Lol I think this thread should be renamed let's argue about absolutely everything

 

[Mak404matt]

Lol I think this thread should be renamed let's argue about absolutely everything

This thread has given me many laughs from both sides, but I don't take myself very seriously so I don't get riled up like some people.

 

[Pukka]

This thread has given me many laughs from both sides, but I don't take myself very seriously so I don't get riled up like some people.

I'm with you there, sometimes it's fun to poke people with a stick just to see the response

 

[BadgerBoi]

I'm with you there, sometimes it's fun to poke people with a stick just to see the response

shhhh, stop telling!

 

[cove]

How many overseas trips will Kevin Rudd make before the election this year? He has the G20 so including that I will go for four.

 

[drron]

Well I never.Paul Howes thinks TA has policies that are not necessarily bad-
Howes, Shorten split over union corruption

Australian Workers’ Union boss Paul Howes has called for tougher penalties for union corruption and criticised the government for not matching the Coalition’s policy to bring the penalty regime for unions in line with corporate law.
Mr Howes said the increased ­penalties for union officials introduced last year by his predecessor and ­Workplace Relations Minister Bill Shorten did not go far enough.
He told The Australian Financial Review Labor should adopt the ­Coalition’s policy.
“I can’t see any reason why anyone in the [union] movement would fear ­having the same penalties that apply to company directors. If you’re a crook, you’re a crook,’’ Mr Howes said.

 

[whatmeworry]

How many overseas trips will Kevin Rudd make before the election this year? He has the G20 so including that I will go for four.

How many point redemption's for flights have you got this year courtesy of the ATO and the Australian government? I would say at least 26.

 

[drron]

How many point redemption's for flights have you got this year courtesy of the ATO and the Australian government? I would say at least 26.

And just how is this relevant?
Cove paid the taxes with money he has earnt.
Please play the ball not the man.

 

[medhead]

How many point redemption's for flights have you got this year courtesy of the ATO and the Australian government? I would say at least 26.

You'd have to say nil. Since he is paying the card fee which is the cost of getting points.

 

[medhead]

Well I never.Paul Howes thinks TA has policies that are not necessarily bad-
Howes, Shorten split over union corruption

Or he'll just use anything to hold a grudge against shorten?

 

[Pukka]

How many point redemption's for flights have you got this year courtesy of the ATO and the Australian government? I would say at least 26.

Here we go the class warfare card.

Try paying some tax then you can get some flights too.

 

[cove]

I always try to pay the wholesale price for our travel so you should not compare us to you know who.
The fun of getting points from paying the fiscal fiend was introduced by the ATO to help them collect taxes faster. While that may have helped we are about 275 billion short and your share to pay back is $xx_,xx_.xx .
Anyone going to the Lords test match??

 

[drsmithy]

Here we go the class warfare card.

Try paying some tax then you can get some flights too.

Wow. How <on earth> do you get to "class warfare" out of that ?

(Nevermind the absurdity of even using the phrase "class warfare card".)

 

[Pukka]

Wow. How <on earth> do you get to "class warfare" out of that ?

(Nevermind the absurdity of even using the phrase "class warfare card".)

QED re the previous discussion ask Moody it's Latin you know

But to answer your question it's jealousy pure and simple, the ATO make the rules not us and be careful with your language the man in the sky is watching you. Only you mind not me lol.

 

[quokka77]

A few weeks ago the bookies had the Coalition paying 1.05 on winning federally. They've slipped to 1.22 last I checked. Still fairly much unbackable.

 

[Moody]

QED re the previous discussion ask Moody it's Latin you know

But to answer your question it's jealousy pure and simple, the ATO make the rules not us and be careful with your language the man in the sky is watching you. Only you mind not me lol.

Shouldn't cove pay FBT on the value of the award flights "earned"? What does the ATO have to say about such benefits?

[Disclaimer - a chunk of my points are earned from work flights]

 

[Mak404matt]

Newspoll is out, a bit more balanced here:

2 Party Preferred: ALP 50 (+1) L/NP 50 (-1)
Primary Votes: ALP 38 (+3) L/NP 42 (-1)
Preferred PM: Rudd 53 (+4) Abbott 31 (-4)
Rudd: Approve 43 (+7) Disapprove 36 (0)
Abbott: Approve 35 (0) Disapprove 56 (0)

 

[Moody]

A few weeks ago the bookies had the Coalition paying 1.05 on winning federally. They've slipped to 1.22 last I checked. Still fairly much unbackable.

They are always thus, IMHO. [And I thought Australia was getting over this gambling fixation]

Anyway - Monday's are my favourite viewing night. Media Watch with Paul Barry at the helm really went to town on Rupert Murdoch and the secret Sun tapes. And Q&A was a fair fight between Malcolm and "Albo" with the Australian cartoonist (Leak?) being entertaining, but the ladies were disappointing tonight. Corinne Grant tried a bit too hard to be funny, and Miriam Lyons liked the sound of her own voice a bit too much. Malcolm was making more sense even when defending policies he didn't agree with 100%.

 

[drsmithy]

They are always thus, IMHO. [And I thought Australia was getting over this gambling fixation]

Anyway - Monday's are my favourite viewing night. Media Watch with Paul Barry at the helm really went to town on Rupert Murdoch and the secret Sun tapes. And Q&A was a fair fight between Malcolm and "Albo" with the Australian cartoonist (Leak?) being entertaining, but the ladies were disappointing tonight. Corinne Grant tried a bit too hard to be funny, and Miriam Lyons liked the sound of her own voice a bit too much. Malcolm was making more sense even when defending policies he didn't agree with 100%.

It was a relatively good panel last night - other than the constant references by all the people who should know better about "voting for the Prime Minister" I spent much less time than usual yelling at the TV, thanks to the lack of the usual far-right-winger they feel the need to typically put on for "balance".

Turnbull is certainly one of the least dislikeable members of the Liberal Party, and utterly wasted on them. I doubt there are many policies he personally agrees with much more than 50%, let alone 100%.

 

[serfty]

Shouldn't cove pay FBT on the value of the award flights "earned"? What does the ATO have to say about such benefits?

[Disclaimer - a chunk of my points are earned from work flights]

There are fee's for paying the ATO by CC - varies between 0.48% and 1.45% (IIRC). In some cases these are tax deductible, however at most that can alleviate ~40% of the cost.