Oz Federal Election 2013 - Discussion and Comments

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And by "everyone" I assume you mean the editorial staff of the Australian ?

No, I'm thinking more like ABC fact checker Russell Skelton ABC managing director Mark Scott defends fact-checking unit chief Russell Skelton - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

At the end of the day the ABC and Fairfax are infested by these people.......it's entertaining reading/listening.

Heh. Uhlman's idea of a "probing question" for a Liberal politician is what they had for breakfast.

Rubbish!
 
I came where I expected to be as well, and in a similar position to where I do on the political compass.

But that's not where Labor should be, nor the Liberals, nor the Greens, on that spectrum.

So that would be right up in the top left hand corner next to Medhead, Moody & badgerboi

But really you think you should be in the middle because you consider your views mainstream rather than extremist.
 
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Why would say that? Everyone knows you can't get a gig at the ABC without having the ALP photo in the wallet.

Haven't read much of his stuff on The Drum, have you? Or is it because that he isn't as obvious as the News Corp in his bias?
 
The placement of the parties on the ABC's spectrum is ridiculous. I recommend people look at politicalcompass.org's assessment of the 2010 election lineup for something a bit more realistic. It remains basically valid today.

I'm another one where the results were spot on...
 
Haven't read much of his stuff on The Drum, have you? Or is it because that he isn't as obvious as the News Corp in his bias?

Chris is a serious reporter. The drum is for uni students.
 
Chris is a serious reporter. The drum is for uni students.

That makes no sense ... He writes articles for the drum. And being serious doesn't guarantee no bias. If I said to you that Tony Jones showed no bias you'd make the same argument as me
 
That makes no sense ... He writes articles for the drum. And being serious doesn't guarantee no bias. If I said to you that Tony Jones showed no bias you'd make the same argument as me

I'm sure that people like Peter Reith and Kerry Chikarovski have a huuuuuge following amongst university students...
 
So that would be right up in the top left hand corner next to Medhead, Moody & badgerboi

But really you think you should be in the middle because you consider your views mainstream rather than extremist.

You're kidding yourself if you think I'm in the too left corner. Typical blind rumblings of your type.
 
@cove the problem with shale oil as I understand it is the relative impurity -- requires more refining and therefore less efficient and more polluting. I take it you do not subscribe to the peak oil theory (or at least the version of it which has us past, at, or close to peak oil). I am not informed enough to comment regarding accuracy or otherwise of this theory, but find the intersection between energy, pollution and politics interesting: throws up all kinds of dilemmas (nuclear vs renewable vs fossil).
 
Right wing nutbags are too wrapped up in their blind delusions to realise that criticism of the objects of their affection does not mean support of the objects of their blind hatred. That's the failing of such supporters too blinded by their own hang ups to see clearly.
 
@drsmithy Amanda can be entertaining and engaging (both on Counterpoint and her one-off Kitchen Cabinet appearance). It is easier to like her now she is retired and I am no longer a student.
 
Right wing nutbags are too wrapped up in their blind delusions to realise that criticism of the objects of their affection does not mean support of the objects of their blind hatred. That's the failing of such supporters too blinded by their own hang ups to see clearly.

Lol as opposed to the left wing nut jobs that think the whole world revolves around mediocrity and that the world owes them a living
 
That makes no sense ... He writes articles for the drum. And being serious doesn't guarantee no bias. If I said to you that Tony Jones showed no bias you'd make the same argument as me

How many drum contributors have a full time gig on 7.30 report?

It's like saying that someone like Chris Emerson or Kim Carr write a column for The Australian they must be on staff - ludicrous stuff.
 
Lol as opposed to the left wing nut jobs that think the whole world revolves around mediocrity and that the world owes them a living

You're the one who supports the welfare that I oppose. That makes you the who thinks the world owes you something. You might try reading my comments outlining my position in relation to pay tax and cap the phi health insurance rebate. I'm record clearly does not demand welfare. unlike you and tour right wing mates. As I said too blinded by the stars in your eyes to understand the really story.
 
So that would be right up in the top left hand corner next to Medhead, Moody & badgerboi
Nope, basically where Labor appears. Not that I find myself in much agreeance with most New Labor policies.

Though where Labor appears on ABC's Vote Compass is completely wrong - they belong where the Liberals are, and the Greens belong where Labor are. Political Compass does a much better job (and appears to have a recently added Australia 2013 update):

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But really you think you should be in the middle because you consider your views mainstream rather than extremist.
By all means, quote some of my views that are "extremist".
 
You're the one who supports the welfare that I oppose. That makes you the who thinks the world owes you something. You might try reading my comments outlining my position in relation to pay tax and cap the phi health insurance rebate. I'm record clearly does not demand welfare. unlike you and tour right wing mates. As I said too blinded by the stars in your eyes to understand the really story.

Can you put that in English I'm not sure what you are saying

If you mean the dental welfare then I admit I have a vested interest
 
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Nope, basically where Labor appears.

Though where Labor appears on ABC's Vote Compass is completely wrong - they belong where the Liberals are, and the Greens belong where Labor are. Political Compass does a much better job (and appears to have a recently added Australia 2013 update):

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By all means, quote some of my views that are "extremist".

Everything you say Is extremist as far as I'm concerned but good luck In the election
 
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