People coming past the curtain to use the dunny, especially row-4 platinums.

[medhead]

There will always be exceptions, like those I listed, but they are not up to the individual pax to decide. If in doubt, ask the FA.

Ah so there are grey areas then.

I too had severe food poisoning on a trip back from Cuba and went to the loo about 20 times from CUN-DFW. Luckily I was in J, but can you imagine if I was in forward Y, bothering them 20 times? If i was in Y, I would have requested a rear Y seat so as to be close to the rear Y loos, but I guess thats not an option for Row 4 fans.

I didn't have food poisoning. The question remains for you, as the expert on the rights and wrongs of what other people do; Was I allowed to use the front toilet due to the runs, as a (selfish, arrogant) platinum (with and over inflated sense of worth)? In Your Opinion.

and I wouldn't be so critical of everyones posting when you come up with gems like this:




Just Saying......

What you'll find is that I can admit when I make a mistake. Shame you didn't see fit to quote that from the other thread.


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[MEL_Traveller]

My partner laughed his head off with the "go to the toilet before you get on" comment that's me to a T. Or he did until he had a sudden infection and couldn't get past the trolley in a single aisle plane! So just think about about it Mel_traveller, it could happen to you and maybe other males of a certain age.

I still maintain I am paying for the right to have a smaller queue otherwise, as someone said, why bother?

I think everyone has agreed there are exceptions... the elderly, disabled, young children that just can't hold on... or if someone has the runs... but I thought it was just those that felt a bit lazy, or couldn't wait the 20 minutes for the trolley to clear, that this thread was being directed to...

although that being said... generally the elderly and disabled (the ones I have had experience of traveling with) generally make sure they do a toilet stop before going on a 55 minute flight from Sydney to melbourne...

 

[straitman]

Some of you people nag on and on about the same thing more than my 85 year old mother.

Even the slow ones amongst us got the message the second or third time around. By the 27th time it get just a little tedious :!:

 

[wilco]

My partner laughed his head off with the "go to the toilet before you get on" comment that's me to a T. Or he did until he had a sudden infection and couldn't get past the trolley in a single aisle plane! So just think about about it Mel_traveller, it could happen to you and maybe other males of a certain age.

I still maintain I am paying for the right to have a smaller queue otherwise, as someone said, why bother?

sudden infection you say?? lol

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Some of you people nag on and on about the same thing more than my 85 year old mother.

Even the slow ones amongst us got the message the second or third time around. By the 27th time it get just a little tedious :!:

I know! guilty as charged! but until the fight is won we must persist! it seems there are still some people who think it's ok to social climb!! :shock:

 

[wilco]

I know! guilty as charged! but until the fight is won we must persist! it seems there are still some people who think it's ok to social climb!! :shock:

Whats wrong with social climbing?? Besides, they are WP's and have therefore reached the highest of high society. No wait.........lol

 

[straitman]

I know! guilty as charged! but until the fight is won we must persist! it seems there are still some people who think it's ok to social climb!! :shock:

It's a circular argument.

My personal suggestion is that people post new information and stop rehashing.

 

[wilco]

It's a circular argument.

My personal suggestion is that people post new information and stop rehashing.

but its always the people against that get in trouble........

 

[oz_mark]

I know! guilty as charged! but until the fight is won we must persist!

I wonder how many generations it will persist for :shock:

 

[russ]

From now on I'll think of the WP's trying to get into the J toilets as the Wanna Pee's

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I wonder how many generations it will persist for :shock:

three generations! my grandmother was on a flight with me and I asked something about the people sitting in the small seats... she said not to worry about them because they never come 'up here'!!

before the three generations it was stratocruisers , DC3s and flying boats... no curtains there!

 

[tuapekastar]

this is a recurring theme amongst many WP's who think its ok to do something because its them, but god forbid if a lowly NB did it. And of course you'd know they were an NB because you'd have checked out their boarding pass!

Everyone is blaming Row 4 WP's because they are the most likely to use the forward loo. They think because they are sat 1 row behind J, they are really important, and its too far to walk back 20 some rows, they should be entitled to use the J loo. Your response above highlights the fact you see no problem with this.

I disagree that the majority of the time its people further back. They simply don't care and use the toilets they are supposed to use. Its the WP's and to be fair, forward Y pax, who use the forward loos.

I really don't understand why people think so highly of or feel better about themselves because they used a business or first lounge, they stow their luggage in the business cabin or they are sat in row 4. If you have your reasons, so be it, but it doesn't make you a better person.

I am firmly in the Y use Y loos, J use J loos (exceptional circumstances notwithstanding) camp - refer post #210 - but it is not my experience that Row 4 WPs are serial offenders in these matters. I'm quite sure it does happen, but on a recent Trans-Tasman trip there were a few loo upgraders (despite an announcement re loos at the start of each flight) and all came from further back in the cabin.

Myself and a couple of other Row 4 travellers (me WP, no idea - and don't care - of the others' status) dutifully made the trek to the back of the plane. Whilst this is a ludicrously small sample (2 flights), and I have no idea whether there was a cart blockage when the others transgressed, it does seem to reflect my general experience. I'm just not so sure that row 4 WPs are serial offenders here - in fact I suspect they may well in general be more aware of, and as a result more compliant with, the rules/etiquette.

 

[nlagalle]

It's a circular argument.

My personal suggestion is that people post new information and stop rehashing.

Indeed it is Bill.. and it also seems that some people here have a dislike for WP.. I get the feeling though perhaps they are just jealous of their status???

 

[melaus]

Come-on guys........................So many pages about this small thing.

Surely the garden needs attention outside!

MERRY CHRISTMAS

 

[wilco]

Myself and a couple of other Row 4 travellers (me WP, no idea - and don't care - of the others' status) dutifully made the trek to the back of the plane. Whilst this is a ludicrously small sample (2 flights), and I have no idea whether there was a cart blockage when the others transgressed, it does seem to reflect my general experience. I'm just not so sure that row 4 WPs are serial offenders here - in fact I suspect they may well in general be more aware of, and as a result more compliant with, the rules/etiquette.

You sound like one of those rare and mythical WP's that I've only read about in books!!
It seems to me that you value and appreciate the benefits you get, unlike some other WP's who think of them as their god given right.

You would think that WP's ought to know better, but sadly it seems they don't. We've heard that there is nothing wrong with using the J loo, there is everything wrong with not getting YOUR preferred seat or worse still, an NB getting it and yet the argument goes round and round and round.

there is no etiquette in using something that you are not supposed to, be it a toilet or an overhead locker. Like wise, its in very bad taste to assume that you are "better" than anyone else based purely on the fact you have a platinum card, which, lets be honest, is not really that great an achievement or that rare. I also suspect that those who scream the loudest are the ones that use every trick in the book to obtain and maintain platinum status. I really don't care what people do, what hobbies they are into but just don't be ramming it down my throat because they choose to define their life by an airline status that was obtained by flying around unnecessarily (double SC HKG status run anyone??) just so that they can feel better about themselves. If it makes them happy, great, but they need to understand that I don't give a youknowwhat!!

 

[medhead]

Well since we are rehashing. As I stated earlier in the thread I prefer the rear toilets on a 737. Why because I can stand up straight and I don't have to hold up the seat to pee.

I always go to the back when in row 4. I think I've seen someone with a CL tag go to the back. Sometimes other people in row 4 go towards the front, but mostly they don't go at all (that way leads to renal problems). The worst offenders for going towards the front are people in row 5 to 9, mostly the ones with the big NG bag tags on the small carry on luggage.

I prefer the rear toilet so much, I have even used it when flying business. :shock: I did make an exception to my preference last week and used the front toilet due to a GI virus situation (medical testing available). But then since I was seated in 1D, I thought it would be acceptable.


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[Stephen65]

I have never ever used the rear toilets when flying J. Once I saw this clip I was confirmed in my belief that I should do my ablutions forward:

Curb Your Enthusiasm - First Class vs. "Coachy" - Season 8 Ep. 6 - YouTube

Barring emergencies such as small children, the elderly or illness - which should result in a request directed to the FA - then J is J and Y is Y and the twain should not meet.

 

[haggiscat]

The rudest two things I've seen? Both times on Air Pacific in Tabua Class. A man came forward in the 747 to the magazine rack, helped himself to newspapers, winked at me as though it was cute, then disappeared, and secondly a woman who came forward just before Nadi and used the front toilet in the 737 to change into her tropical gear, blocking it's use for ten minutes. the stewardess, who was the same on both flights, was generally good at enforcing an iron curtain rule but on both of those occasions was doing something in the galley.

 

[wilco]

The rudest two things I've seen? Both times on Air Pacific in Tabua Class. A man came forward in the 747 to the magazine rack, helped himself to newspapers, winked at me as though it was cute, then disappeared, and secondly a woman who came forward just before Nadi and used the front toilet in the 737 to change into her tropical gear, blocking it's use for ten minutes. the stewardess, who was the same on both flights, was generally good at enforcing an iron curtain rule but on both of those occasions was doing something in the galley.

Must've both been QF WP's!

I have never ever used the rear toilets when flying J. Once I saw this clip I was confirmed in my belief that I should do my ablutions forward:

Curb Your Enthusiasm - First Class vs. "Coachy" - Season 8 Ep. 6 - YouTube

Barring emergencies such as small children, the elderly or illness - which should result in a request directed to the FA - then J is J and Y is Y and the twain should not meet.

and that about sums up this thread!! lol

I prefer the rear toilet so much, I have even used it when flying business. :shock:

can't you people just use the bloody toilet you are supposed to use?? have you not seen the YT video posted above!! geez!! (lol, I'm kidding, so please everybody stay calm!)

 

[drron]

Come-on guys........................So many pages about this small thing.

Surely the garden needs attention outside!

MERRY CHRISTMAS

Yes that's what they do in rural China.