Predictions of when international flights may resume/bans lifted

[Pushka]

Was referring to the chap in Russia. If he was working there pre-COVID and his life was there etc. then he wouldn't have needed an exemption to leave Aus to go back to the Kremlim. More to the story I'd suggest....

Ah yes. He was able to return to Russia for that reason but didn't realise that until he had spent just 8 days or something too long here and so blew his chance.

 

[Flashback]

Ah yes. He was able to return to Russia for that reason but didn't realise that until he had spent just 8 days or something too long here and so blew his chance.

That makes more sense then

 

[hb13]

Court rulings are binding on government. Parliament can try and change the laws if they want to make them compliant.

That's just theoretical. What actual impact will that have on current rules? Realistically?

 

[Princess Fiona]

If he was resident overseas then he wouldn't have needed an exemption to leave, so possibly more to the story?

I personally know several people who are Australian citizens, no other citizenship who have left Australia multiple times and re-entered as they are resident outside Australia. None have had any issues leaving here.

 

[Princess Fiona]

I thought that had already been explained in news articles where it was said that he didn't realise he could leave and applied to leave when he had just stayed too long to have an automatic exemption to go back overseas.

This sounds like a bit of a furphy and needs a bit more exploration. Can’t see any such time limit for a stay in Australia that would render you not eligible to leave if resident in another country.
I can’t imagine the Biosecurity act would be so prescriptive on time limits for non-resident citizens to stay here.

 

[mviy]

I personally know several people who are Australian citizens, no other citizenship who have left Australia multiple times and re-entered as they are resident outside Australia. None have had any issues leaving here.

That works fine provided you don't stay too long in Australia. There is a test based on whether you've spent more time in Australia or outside it or not as to whether you need to apply for an exemption.

It's unfortunate for those of us where work and leave means that the family member in Australia is the one that has the leave to do hotel quarantine but the one that is not allowed to travel, whereas the one allowed to travel to Australia is the one who doesn't have the leave to make that practical unless the hotel quarantine requirement is removed.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

This sounds like a bit of a furphy and needs a bit more exploration. Can’t see any such time limit for a stay in Australia that would render you not eligible to leave if resident in another country.
I can’t imagine the Biosecurity act would be so prescriptive on time limits for non-resident citizens to stay here.

From what i can gather it sounds like he stayed too long in Australia so technically became a resident of Australia - losing his 'non-resident' status. That would make him subject to the exit bans.

 

[mviy]

The idea being that someone who has spent more time in Australia than outside it may not be genuinely someone who intends and has the means to remain overseas for an extended period of time without coming back.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Well then in the celebrity stakes, Zac Efron must now be an Australian resident.

 

[jakeseven7]

Victoria is looking to put in an extra 10% HQ capacity to cater for business travel, international students etc that would be charged at a slightly higher rate.

It’s a start. Crack in the dam wall.

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Victoria asks to start second stream of hotel quarantine for business travellers​

Victoria wants to take an extra 120 overseas students, actors and others travelling to the country for business into its hotel quarantine program each week on top of its quota of returning Australians.

The planned scheme will be funded by the firms seeking to bring foreigners into Australia, who will have to pay a higher than normal fee, and administered separately from regular hotel quarantine.

Victoria asks to start second stream of hotel quarantine for business travellers

The scheme would be funded by the firms seeking to bring foreigners into Australia and administered separately from regular hotel quarantine.

www.theage.com.au

 

[mviy]

I think the Feds should agree but only if Vic takes steps to double or better yet triple its intake of Australians first. It's not bringing home its fare share of Australians so why should it be allowed to bring in lots of foreigners before it addresses that problem? Vic should be able to bring in as many Australians as NSW.

 

[Pushka]

This sounds like a bit of a furphy and needs a bit more exploration. Can’t see any such time limit for a stay in Australia that would render you not eligible to leave if resident in another country.
I can’t imagine the Biosecurity act would be so prescriptive on time limits for non-resident citizens to stay here.

There is a specific calculation of days living overseas as to eligibility.

 

[drron]

Can't see the border with India opening any time soon.


Likely deaths are going to go even higher in the next few weeks.

 

[Pushka]

Can't see the border with India opening any time soon.
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Likely deaths are going to go even higher in the next few weeks.

Watching recent footage of mass election rallies and religious festivals, let alone normal chaotic India, this was always going to happen. I don't think even mass vaccination would have saved them. Just incredibly tragic. At least other nations are coming in to help at last. And likely bans announced today. Some IPL Aussies are leaving.

 

[OZDUCK]

I see that Singapore /Hong Kong are having another try at a 'travel bubble'.

Hong Kong and Singapore to start quarantine-free travel bubble next month

Both sides of the proposed travel bubble will closely watch their case rates in the month leading up to the quarantine-free arrangement.

www.abc.net.au

 

[MEL_Traveller]

That's just theoretical. What actual impact will that have on current rules? Realistically?

Depends which way the court goes. If they agree with the applicants the rules wouldn't be lawful, and couldn't be enforced. The applicants are only challenging the exit ban, not the caps on returning.

 

[drron]

Well I find myself in agreement with Young Mark at last. He is saying most of the Covid negative certificates from India are dodgy.
Also revealed that 78 of the pax on an MH flight from KL had been in India in the last 14 days. It arrived on April 24th

 

[dajop]

He is saying most of the Covid negative certificates from India are dodgy.

Knock me down with feather, I'm shocked.

I'm not sure what sort of advice the government was receiving around having later tests of Indian originating travellers into Australia via connections, but naive in thinking the issue was timing of the test .... A fake test 24 hrs before departure from India is just as fake as one taken 72 hrs before departure from India.

 

[Lynda2475]

‘Signal to the world’: Singapore ready and waiting for Australian travel bubble

Singapore pursued “risk minimisation” rather than the Australian “risk elimination” approach. Now the south-east Asian nation has more flexibility to open borders.

www.smh.com.au

 

[dajop]

‘Signal to the world’: Singapore ready and waiting for Australian travel bubble

Singapore pursued “risk minimisation” rather than the Australian “risk elimination” approach. Now the south-east Asian nation has more flexibility to open borders.

www.smh.com.au

I wish the media would just stop right now with these articles, just a waste of time. A bubble is never going to happen. It's fanciful to think otherwise.

And then they throw in that stupid graph - which looks like we're experience 40+ cases a day. Which we are - nearly all in hotel quarantine.

Over the last 4 days there's been 120 cases. But the story behind these .... 112 in HQ, 8 "community" transmission - 4 on board a ship docked off Singapore (counted because they came ashore for covid test), 3 likely past infections from those who had been overseas (likely viral shedding) , and 1 local transmission to somebody (vaccinated) who went into quarantine to care for his positive mother who had recently arrived from India.

But the headline the uninformed see - 30 new cases a day - very unattractive for a bubble.

Just look at the depressing uninformed comments. And people on here have hopes that any International travel will be possible soon. Forget it!

Singapore is a hub for so many countries. I do not think Australia should be in rush to have the travel bubble with singapore given the facts that COVID-19 new variants are escalating worldwide. Opening the border with singapore is like letting our border wide open to all people around the world transiting and using Singapore to enter Australia. It is a gain for Singapore, but a loss and high risks for Australians

Singapore is a major transit centre, how can we be sure everyone arriving here from Singapore isn't coming from a third country?

This is too risky for Australia to contemplate Please don't!

I note Singapore's proximity to Malaysia, and Malaysia is currently reporting increasing infection rates.