Predictions of when international flights may resume/bans lifted

[Berlin]

Not really they clarified that the restriction on medical "does not include accessing personal medical care, aged or disability care services" so those worried about being able to see a GP or get a test no need to worry.

Sorry- my comment wasn't quite clear I think. Not the updated rules are chaos, I was rather referring to the fact that they've stirred us all up with those "No pub for 7+ days" restrictions and now they suddenly back paddle. That's rather chaotic rule-making/ communication if you ask me.

 

[Flashback]

Not really they clarified that the restriction on medical "does not include accessing personal medical care, aged or disability care services" so those worried about being able to see a GP or get a test no need to worry.

Most people coming on a holiday wont need to go to a nursing home or prison. The people who cant go to the pub/school until day 7 results are not fully vaccinated so not exactly unfair. You just have to factor in at home school/childcare for a week or return a week before the end of school holidays.

I guess prison could be deemed a long term holiday?

 

[PineappleSkip]

Lol- what a chaos!

But- pub, here we come!

Excellent! Off the plane and into the pub

Indeed. This particular pineapple will be off the plane and into the QP for the onward flight

Cheers skip

 

[Berlin]

Indeed. This particular pineapple will be off the plane and into the QP for the onward flight

Cheers skip

Now that's an even smarter move! Free pub for you

 

[dairyfloss]

Anyone else notice in the NSW testing requirements for returning vaccinated travelers that the 2nd test is simply ‘on or after 7 days’? So… never is also after 7 days, correct?

 

[Princess Fiona]

What if you work there?
Personal inconvenience aside, I bet there's a few tired ICU nurses who've already booked trips and it's still not widely publicised-no-one in my department had a clue

Indeed. I had my leave and flights arranged before the announcement of the 7 day exclusion from Healthcare and I won’t be changing it.

It does make a long weekend in Singapore / NZ etc completely out of reach for anyone who works in a high risk setting until they come up with another solution eg. daily antigen testing for 7 days.

 

[jakeseven7]

What if you work there?
Personal inconvenience aside, I bet there's a few tired ICU nurses who've already booked trips and it's still not widely publicised-no-one in my department had a clue

Yup I know of a few in our team. They still don’t know. I don’t have the heart to tell them. I actually wonder how they will find out… it’s a bit of a mess.

 

[Must...Fly!]

It does make a long weekend in Singapore / NZ etc completely out of reach for anyone who works in a high risk setting until they come up with another solution eg. daily antigen testing for 7 days.

100% agree. This was my first thought as the solution. But you can be sure the government will insist something stupid such as the testing being done by a pathology lab. At your expense, of course.

 

[Pushka]

Indeed. I had my leave and flights arranged before the announcement of the 7 day exclusion from Healthcare and I won’t be changing it.

It does make a long weekend in Singapore / NZ etc completely out of reach for anyone who works in a high risk setting until they come up with another solution eg. daily antigen testing for 7 days.

And those Medicos with children in child care. I've not mentioned this to DIL who plans to go to UK parents for Christmas but am preparing for their return and taking over child care for the week. Now is not the time to mention it to her. She is likely to be able to do Telehealth but not visit hospitals. She won't be happy with that. But she can't even do Telehealth with a two year old.

 

[hb13]

NSW advice for Returning Travellers updated
Hospitality OK
High risk such as healthcare remains day 7 test
School looks OK for vaccinated 12+ but day 7 for under 12

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/guidelines-fully-vaccinated-arrivals.pdf

Wow that was quick.

 

[ayushamity]

@ayushamity it looks like Sinovac is going to be recognised by the TGA, hopefully this means your partner can avoid COVID jail.

Too late. She is already in Day 8 of hotel quarantine lol

 

[dairyfloss]

Too late. She is already in Day 8 of hotel quarantine lol

You may be in for a surprise… I think as of the 1st Nov, and presuming she’s in NSW quarantine, and dosed up with one of the new ones that the TGA has added, she should be able to exit.

See this page: Fact sheets - COVID-19: Changes to hotel quarantine in New South Wales from 1 November 2021

Cheers,
Matt.

 

[ayushamity]

You may be in for a surprise… I think as of the 1st Nov, and presuming she’s in NSW quarantine, and dosed up with one of the new ones that the TGA has added, she should be able to exit.

She only got one dose of Sinopharm before coming and the hotel she is at only has AZ which they cannot administer yet to her as it's not been long enough to administer AZ as a second dose.

So she is not fully vaccinated to exit hotel.

 

[dairyfloss]

She only got one dose of Sinopharm before coming and the hotel she is at only has AZ which they cannot administer yet to her as it's not been long enough to administer AZ as a second dose.

So she is not fully vaccinated to exit hotel.

Ahh... sorry. Thought we might have been able to make your day! Oh well - you're past the halfway mark at least!

 

[Batterytraveller]

And here’s a version of the japanese news in English. The MOFA page was updated yesterday but not with any further information about this, but it’s is a terribly organised jumble of information so I could easily have missed it.

Japan to ease quarantine rule to 3 days for business travelers - The Mainichi

TOKYO (Kyodo) -- Japan is planning to shorten the COVID-19 quarantine period for vaccinated businesspeople from overseas upon their arrival in the cou

mainichi.jp

 

[mviy]

With the US approving Pfizer for 5-11 year-olds if Australia follows suit one would think it's only a matter of time before kids aged 5-11 have to be vaccinated in order to travel overseas, and to return home without quarantine. If it's not required in January one would certainly think by February after the school holidays such a requirement is likely to be brought in.

Kids aged 5-11 may not be able to have both doses before Christmas, but they should be able to have at least one if they need to travel. So another possibility would be a staged introduction of a vaccine requirement for kids aged 5-11 requiring at least one dose and then later to have had both doses once enough time has elapsed.

They could also stage it by bringing in the vaccine requirement first for outbound travel then say a few weeks or a month later for those returning to recognise that some may not have had time to get vaccinated before departure.

 

[somebol]

Is QF/EK transfer at Singapore allowed?

Cant find a definitive answer anywhere

 

[henrus]

Is QF/EK transfer at Singapore allowed?

It'll apparently be approved from 18 December, at the same time QF/3K transfers will be allowed. Obviously it remains to be seen if that date gets brought forward (it probably will be) plus it's worth adding that all transits in Changi must be on a single ticket for the time being.

 

[ayushamity]

Ahh... sorry. Thought we might have been able to make your day! Oh well - you're past the halfway mark at least!

Hey. 6 days to go after 621 days separated. I count that a win!!

 

[dairyfloss]

With the US approving Pfizer for 5-11 year-olds if Australia follows suit one would think it's only a matter of time before kids aged 5-11 have to be vaccinated in order to travel overseas, and to return home without quarantine. If it's not required in January one would certainly think by February after the school holidays such a requirement is likely to be brought in.

Kids aged 5-11 may not be able to have both doses before Christmas, but they should be able to have at least one if they need to travel. So another possibility would be a staged introduction of a vaccine requirement for kids aged 5-11 requiring at least one dose and then later to have had both doses once enough time has elapsed.

They could also stage it by bringing in the vaccine requirement first for outbound travel then say a few weeks or a month later for those returning to recognise that some may not have had time to get vaccinated before departure.

Maybe it's just me, but I can’t see them mandating COVID vaccinations for 5-11s, even for international travel. Many parents will do it, regardless - like my wife and I plan to - whether for greater confidence around the impact of the virus & disease, or just for convenience with regard to travelling; particularly internationally, but I'd suggest that unless we see a variant that changes how the disease affects children - god forbid - that the uptake would be more like 1/2 to 2/3 of what we see in older children. That's my prediction, anyway.