Predictions of when international flights may resume/bans lifted

[Lynda2475]

ABC reports:

Hundreds of international students will arrive in Sydney next week, despite the federal government delaying the easing of border restrictions because of the Omicron COVID-19 variant.

A charter flight carrying up to 250 students will land in Sydney on December 6.

The federal government had been due to ease border restrictions for international students and other eligible visa holders tomorrow, but that has been deferred until December 15 due to concerns about the Omicron COVID-19 strain.

Despite that, the NSW government will proceed with its international student pilot program which it announced in September.

That means hundreds of students will be able to arrive in Sydney despite the tougher federal government stance.

The students will be subject to strict new quarantine measures introduced over the past few days.

 

[N860CR]

None of them want to be blamed for killing Nanna on their watch. A bad look.

Yet 2 years ago, nobody could have cared less about Nanna in our decrepit, largely privatised aged care system.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Yet 2 years ago, nobody could have cared less about Nanna in our decrepit, largely privatised aged care system.

Which is, of course, not true. Concerns and complaints prompted a Royal Commission into aged care.

 

[oznflfan]

Which is, of course, not true. Concerns and complaints prompted a Royal Commission into aged care.

Royal Commission didn't close state or international borders though...............................

 

[Lynda2475]

Which is, of course, not true. Concerns and complaints prompted a Royal Commission into aged care.

The RC did not to my knowledge make any recommendations wrt imposing restrictions on the broader community to protect those in aged care.

The focus of the RC was on treatment of residents in aged care noting staffing levels/ratios and types (nurses vs carers) and lack of food quality were key call outs.

 

[mviy]

I am flying to London tonight on QF9. Glad to be going. My first time on the Dreamliner. It’s going to be a special trip.

 

[Lynda2475]

I am flying to London tonight on QF9. Glad to be going. My first time on the Dreamliner. It’s going to be a special trip.

Enjoy

 

[N860CR]

Which is, of course, not true. Concerns and complaints prompted a Royal Commission into aged care.

Except it is true. This country has royal commissions to decide what colour shoes the PM should wear.

It was a waste of time. But more critically, prior to it even happening, the general public couldn’t have carried less.

 

[Pushka]

I am flying to London tonight on QF9. Glad to be going. My first time on the Dreamliner. It’s going to be a special trip.

It's hard to believe those plans and hopes you made months ago are actually going to happen.

 

[drron]

Though in some flu pandemics individual nursing homes went into lockdown.Certainly happened in 2017 and 2009.

 

[mviy]

It's hard to believe those plans and hopes you made months ago are actually going to happen.

It's been a nervous few days. It's impossible to predict what's going to happen these days.

 

[RAM]

Which is, of course, not true. Concerns and complaints prompted a Royal Commission into aged care.

True, after three years of it being called for and voted against 19 times in Canberra.

But nothing to do with Covid, pre-dated it. Although they did hold a couple of extra hearings into what happened with Covid.

Locking down of Nursing Homes happened after failure to deal with international borders and two workers arrived back from overseas (Italy IIRC) leading to two separate outbreaks in Sydney Nursing homes. Fed Govt did nothing about managing the outbreaks (despite being regulator & monitoring authority) & left it to NSW State Govt to look after.

Once first deaths begin then action happened on shutting international border to some countries & not others - totally illogical yet that's the history. At least this time around hopefully some of those involved may recall what went wrong...

But then again.

Let's just hope that this latest variant does not have serious impacts that Delta came with.

 

[Pom-DownUnder]

Anyone got any feedback on ability to travel to ACT from SYD with this 72 hour NSW isolation which allows you to drive 'home' ?

 

[Flashback]

What

It's been a nervous few days. It's impossible to predict what's going to happen these days.

I'll be glad to welcome you here. Just make sure you have your mask for public transport and shops .. but not restaurants and pubs etc.

 

[mviy]

I have a few masks. Can’t wait to never wear one again, but that time will be a while off yet

Looking forward to the trip. Glad the border is still open.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

True, after three years of it being called for and voted against 19 times in Canberra.

But nothing to do with Covid, pre-dated it. Although they did hold a couple of extra hearings into what happened with Covid.

Locking down of Nursing Homes happened after failure to deal with international borders and two workers arrived back from overseas (Italy IIRC) leading to two separate outbreaks in Sydney Nursing homes. Fed Govt did nothing about managing the outbreaks (despite being regulator & monitoring authority) & left it to NSW State Govt to look after.

Once first deaths begin then action happened on shutting international border to some countries & not others - totally illogical yet that's the history. At least this time around hopefully some of those involved may recall what went wrong...

But then again.

Let's just hope that this latest variant does not have serious impacts that Delta came with.

I think the argument being made was that we shouldn't be closing our borders to 'protect the elderly' because we didn't care about them before, so why are we now? I disagree with that position. There was concern pre-covid about the welfare of our elderly and vulnerable, even if it took 19 votes in Canberra to finally get action.

Sure the Royal Commission highlighted the issues and more people are now aware of the problems. Perhaps as a consequence it means that amongst other reasons, doing what we can to protect the vulnerable from covid has pretty broad support.

 

[clifford]

doing what we can to protect the vulnerable from covid has pretty broad support.

Indeed, but unfortunately not on this board. Doesn't say much for so called "frequent flyers" does it?

 

[antycbr]

I think the argument being made was that we shouldn't be closing our borders to 'protect the elderly' because we didn't care about them before, so why are we now? I disagree with that position. There was concern pre-covid about the welfare of our elderly and vulnerable, even if it took 19 votes in Canberra to finally get action.

Sure the Royal Commission highlighted the issues and more people are now aware of the problems. Perhaps as a consequence it means that amongst other reasons, doing what we can to protect the vulnerable from covid has pretty broad support.

Providing they have vaccinated themselves. Zero sympathy otherwise.

 

[N860CR]

Indeed, but unfortunately not on this board. Doesn't say much for so called "frequent flyers" does it?

The question simply is “where does it end?”. The elderly population is as good as 100% vaccinated. The only deaths were really seeing are in unvaccinated people with preexisting health conditions.

Supporting a measured approach does not equal wanting a geriatric genocide.

 

[justinbrett]

Indeed, but unfortunately not on this board. Doesn't say much for so called "frequent flyers" does it?

If they're so called "frequent flyers" are you implying they don't fly frequently?