Predictions of when international flights may resume/bans lifted

[esseeeayeenn]

Maybe we could have a travel bubble for all states except NSW & Victoria, together with NZ and whichever South Pacific nations agree to join.

 

[seanQLD]

The last thing we need is a vaccine that "increases immune response" UNLESS IT ALSO INCLUDES A METICULOUS (double-blind, repeated) LONG-TERM ( many years ) statistical analysis confirming it also improves outcomes.... meaning better than (no vax of 99.6% recovery)

For those under 40... you have 99.8% for full recovery WITH NO VAX.

And ... the medical profession is STILL LEARNING how to best treat. A month ago they didn’t know that use of respirators can be avoided in most cases (when at critical stage) through immunosuppressant use. Simply put - turning OFF the immune system works better than making it more active against this disease....

Those things are picked up in the stat analysis of vaccine-candidates. That's why it takes so long. That's why it MUST be allowed to take several years of testing. There is no way I would personally consider taking a c19 vaccine before 2025. Earlier than that would be "rushed" , imho.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Maybe we could have a travel bubble for all states except NSW & Victoria, together with NZ and whichever South Pacific nations agree to join.

NZ and the Pacific Isles want the $$$ that NSW and Vic can generate.


Or Victoria can just go back to low testing rates and start having 0 cases again if it is only stats that matter.

 

[N860CR]

Or Victoria can just go back to low testing rates and start having 0 cases again if it is only stats that matter.

Frighteningly, that seems like the solution that would please the other states.

 

[drron]

Maybe we could have a travel bubble for all states except NSW & Victoria, together with NZ and whichever South Pacific nations agree to join.

Though if NSW and Victoria are excluded and the other states allowed kiwis to cross their borders but not those from NSW and Vic all hell would probably break loose.
More probably QF and NZ will be lobbying for services from SYD and MEL as they would be the most profitable routes with the other states allowed to join in if they opened their borders.

 

[moa999]

NSW now testing all those in quarantine

From a Reddit thread.

 

[drron]

About time.

 

[ethernet]

I was wrong - I assumed they DID, especially after Ruby, and including go-fers like baggage handlers (gym or drug distribution, high plastic surface contact) and plastic tray waiters(ruby). I think Victoria has proved the benefit is 2% of arrivee's within 7 days.

Their models are all firetrucked , but NSW is more reasonable in opening up. The stated aim was to avoid hospital oveflow. Mission acheived. I think the unstated objection to internationl is now who pays for it. I dont think they have thought that is MUST be announced 2 months before December.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

About time.

Yes agree, with tests now available in abundance there is now no real reason not test this higher risk group.

 

[drron]

The criteria for testing should be widened.A great example here in Tasmania.Obviously the NWRH was the focus.The NWRH was closed on April 6th.It was the day i started work down here.Testing was not too great at that stage but was ramped up.In this graph the great majority of testing was in the North West.They were doing about 900 tests per day -nearly 1.5% of the North West population.But it dropped off.By May only about 300 tests a day were being done in the North West so the mobile testing units sent to other areas.You can see the numbers dropping off.
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In the 24 hours until 6pm Thursday only 95 tests done.

But the Australian figures also is falling.
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Even in Victoria.
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Maybe the mobile testing units should operate like RBTs.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I think Victoria has been up and down of late (though still high as is about 50% of tests in Australia of late) as in addition to opening up testing anyone with even the most minor symptom, that they have been blitzing in turn various sectors. ie 12,000 teachers just done before further re-opining of schools, health workers (ie just did everyone at my daughters hospital), construction industry etc. As these sectors all have different sizes the people tested varies too.

 

[drron]

Certainly in Tassie they should be doing more tests on those without symptoms especially in the North West say all retail employees ,teachers etc.
Basically all hospital staff at the NWRH and NWPH have been tested.

 

[Kendall Roy]

As me not being the the HE, I agree anyway! Get them in! Quarantine, do whatever you need to do but hurry up!

Yes, it's critical that we continue to dilute the standard of tertiary education in Australia by firing up the old PR pathway-tick-box-cash-cow again. Universities should receive no special treatment over any other sector in the economy.

Restrictions should be eased based on country, not demographic/group of arrivals.

 

[ramboflyer]

According to reports today the British cabinet will be considering exemptions from the 14 day quarantine for Australians to enter there. There are at least 2 obvious problems should that happen;

*Australia would be extremely unlikely to agree to a reciprocal agreement given the high numbers in GB
*Australian leisure travellers s are prohibited from leaving the country

Still and all it's another bit of positive news moving back to some sort of normality

 

[N860CR]

*Australia would be extremely unlikely to agree to a reciprocal agreement given the high numbers in GB
*Australian leisure travellers s are prohibited from leaving the country

Still and all it's another bit of positive news moving back to some sort of normality

I’m hoping that means the Australian government is perhaps looking to relax exit restrictions for certain people (work requirements etc).

I know it’s already starting to be very difficult for myself to plan for a return to work, and this is with other countries relaxing. I’m needed in Taiwan in July and realistically will need to go to South Africa straight after. The stickler will likely be Australia, so I’m hoping there are works within the government to set a policy to allow people to go back to work overseas. Personally, I’d then stay away until we’ve tidied the entry restrictions up.

 

[drron]

According to reports today the British cabinet will be considering exemptions from the 14 day quarantine for Australians to enter there. There are at least 2 obvious problems should that happen;

*Australia would be extremely unlikely to agree to a reciprocal agreement given the high numbers in GB
*Australian leisure travellers s are prohibited from leaving the country

Still and all it's another bit of positive news moving back to some sort of normality

Already knocked back.

UK rejects Australia's push for exemption from coronavirus quarantine

Starting on June 8, the UK government will require virtually all air, sea and rail arrivals to self-isolate in a private home for 14 days.

www.brisbanetimes.com.au

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Already knocked back.

UK rejects Australia's push for exemption from coronavirus quarantine

Starting on June 8, the UK government will require virtually all air, sea and rail arrivals to self-isolate in a private home for 14 days.

www.brisbanetimes.com.au

Though that link states... Britain has rejected Australia's request to be immediately exempted from its new coronavirus quarantine scheme but has opened the door to a special deal in the coming months.

So if accurate they are still considering an exemption but at a later date. ScMo seems to be of a the view that international leisure travel from Australia will be unlikely in 2020 to non-bubble destinations and if so there is no pressing need to have an immediate deal.

 

[Flashback]

Though that link states... Britain has rejected Australia's request to be immediately exempted from its new coronavirus quarantine scheme but has opened the door to a special deal in the coming months.

So if accurate they are still considering an exemption but at a later date. ScMo seems to be of a the view that international leisure travel from Australia will be unlikely in 2020 to non-bubble destinations and if so there is no pressing need to have an immediate deal.

It's just usual media rubbish. That's how they're trying to attract readers ..... oh this might happen ....... that might happen. It's all baloney.

 

[Flashback]

Meanwhile, the US is even starting to push along with opening up a bit more.

Gov. Greg Abbott lifts coronavirus restrictions for travelers from New York, Georgia and other hot spots

Travelers coming to Texas from select major states and cities previously had to undergo a mandatory 14-day self-quarantine.

www.texastribune.org

 

[OZDUCK]

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Meanwhile, the US is even starting to push along with opening up a bit more.[/I]

Gov. Greg Abbott lifts coronavirus restrictions for travelers from New York, Georgia and other hot spots

Travelers coming to Texas from select major states and cities previously had to undergo a mandatory 14-day self-quarantine.

www.texastribune.org

Interesting when, as far as I can see, the infection and death curve in Texas is still far from flattening.

Tracking COVID: Interactive maps, charts show spread of virus across Houston, rest of Texas

To keep you up-to-date with the ever-growing number of COVID-19 cases in Houston, Texas...

www.houstonchronicle.com

I suppose they might be saying it is already bad here so it can't get any worse if we let out of state people come in if they want.